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Squad of 25

  • 27-07-2010 8:50pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 405 ✭✭


    I saw in the paper that PL squads are going to be limited to 25 and cannot be edited until January 1. Surely Manchester City will have to not even let a 'star' player in to squads prior to January 1 and this will lead to unrest?

    I see it as a positive that their spending cannot buy them the league. However the other side of it is that young players will find it harder to break into the 1st team as they more likely than not be in the Squad of 25.

    Having considered the aforementioned points I am of the opinion that this rule should not have been implemented.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,014 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    You need to read a lot, lot more about it. Players under the age of 21 at the start of the Premier League season can be used in addition to the 25. Its going to help younger players if anything.


    There are also rules regarding the makeup of the 25 that you might want to check out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭mink_man


    25 is still more than 2 full teams so City shouldn't have a problem?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,397 ✭✭✭yahoo_moe


    eagle eye wrote: »
    You need to read a lot, lot more about it.
    Seconded. And then some.

    This was announced a fair while ago - the full details are on the Premier League site here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,838 ✭✭✭✭3hn2givr7mx1sc


    Is this news?:confused:
    I thought this is the way it was every year, no?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭DerekDGoldfish


    baz2009 wrote: »
    Is this news?:confused:
    I thought this is the way it was every year, no?

    No while teams had the name a CL squad there were no such requirements for a league squad a team could use 50 players if they so wished. I think the make up of the 25 rather than the limit of 25 is going to have the most effect.

    Still they have had to declare a 25 man squad in spain for years AFAIK and spain are world champions so it only stands to reason England will now win the next world cup


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭Melion


    mink_man wrote: »
    25 is still more than 2 full teams so City shouldn't have a problem?

    How many of them are homegrown though?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,454 ✭✭✭mink_man


    does that not mean of they player is 20, and is there 3 years then hes considered home grown?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,153 ✭✭✭everdead.ie


    eagle eye wrote: »
    You need to read a lot, lot more about it. Players under the age of 21 at the start of the Premier League season can be used in addition to the 25. Its going to help younger players if anything.


    There are also rules regarding the makeup of the 25 that you might want to check out.
    Players who turn/turned 21 after Decemder 31th gone don't have to be included in the squad


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,153 ✭✭✭everdead.ie


    Article on it's effect on six of the clubs High profile players that could be ommited are Johnathon Woodgate and Owen Hargreve's
    As part of the Premier League's bid to encourage youth development amongst its members on 1st September each club will have to name a 25-man squad, in a measure that could see a number of big-name casualties.
    The practice of 'stock-piling' players will be prohibited in a system that was agreed by all Premier League chairmen last September; a rule that comes into effect after 5pm on 1st September when the transfer window closes.
    Of the 25, eight have to be 'home-grown', although this does not mean they must be English or British.
    A 'home-grown' player is classified as anyone who has spent at least three years training with an English or Welsh club before the age of 21. Premier League clubs will also be eligible to include as many players under the age of 21 as they like.
    If any club has less than eight 'home-grown' players they will have to start the campaign with a smaller squad of players. If, for example, Newcastle had six 'home-grown' players then they would only be eligible to register a senior squad of 23 players.
    New signing Dan Gosling will not have to be registered as part of the 25-man squad as he is under 21, but should they complete a deal for veteran Sol Campbell he would need to be listed.
    Clubs will only be allowed to make changes to their squad during a transfer window, although if they have submitted a list of less than 25 names they will be eligible to bring in free agents at any point.
    In a bid to provide an insight into how clubs will be compromised by the new rules, skysports.com looks at how six of the country's leading sides will be affected.
    Chelsea

    They're not quite the Chelseaspacer.gif Pensioners at Stamford Bridge but nonetheless Carlo Ancelottispacer.gif will be anxious about the average age of his squad. Of the leading pack Chelsea have the least amount of senior 'home-grown' players, with just four having come through the ranks in West London. If Ancelotti is to bring in new signings before 1st September he may have to offload stars such as Deco and Paulo Ferreira to make room for fresh acquisitions.
    Manchester Cityspacer.gif

    Lavish spending at Eastlands has seen Roberto Mancini assemble a squad that is the envy of many of their top flight rivals but it is not one that sits well with the new Premier League regulations. Of the 38 players listed as senior players at the club only five are under 21, which means eight will have to be culled on 1st September. When you add into the mix the fact the club are still aggressively pursuing new signings, it could be that players of the calibre of Roque Santa Cruz, Craig Bellamy,spacer.gif Jo, Stephen Ireland, Robinho and Javier Garrido will have to be shipped out. Otherwise, expect to see a host of City players suited but not booted in the stands.
    Arsenal

    Arsene Wenger's acclaimed policy of nurturing youth sees him sitting sweet in North London, although there have been murmurs that he may go into the season with a list of 24 senior players at his disposal, due to Sol Campbell's exit, on the proviso he makes no more signings over the age of 21. The Frenchman's eye for young talent and unwillingness to indulge in huge transfer fees should serve Arsenal well.
    Manchester Unitedspacer.gif

    Like Arsenal, last season's Premier League runners-up have long-since embraced a policy of promoting from within, with Sir Alex Fergusonspacer.gif having already said he plans to rely heavily on his latest batch of exciting youngsters this term. His buying policy has reflected this idea as big-name signings have been eschewed in favour of the raw but hugely promising Chris Smallingspacer.gif and Javier Hernandez.
    Liverpool

    New boss Roy Hodgson has walked into a headache at Anfield in that he can name just five senior 'home-grown players' in his squad at present. The acquisitions of Jonjo Shelvey and Danny Wilson were cute given their ages, both 18, but Hodgson is keen for further experienced additions. With the new rules prohibiting the stockpiling of players, expect more Anfield exits before the close of the transfer window.
    Tottenham

    Injury-prone stopper Jonathan Woodgate is the first high-profile casualty of the new rule as Spurs boss Harry Redknapp has already conceded he has no intention of naming the centre-half in his squad of 25. Redknapp said: "You can't have somebody in who's never going to play. I just couldn't put him in my 25. It's impossible at the moment." It could be a similar tale of woe for fellow long-term injury victims Owen Hargreavesspacer.gif and Andy Johnson at Manchester United and Fulham respectively.

    http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11662_6281384,00.html

    Spurs 25 should be something like
    1 Gomes
    2 Corluka
    3 Dawson
    4 King
    5 BAE
    6 Huddlestone
    7 Palacios
    8 Lennon
    9 Modric
    10 Pav
    11 Defoe
    12 Bassong
    13 Kaboul
    14 Jenas
    15 Keane
    16 Crouch
    17 Bently
    18 Kranjcar
    19 O'Hara
    20 Dos Santos
    21 Cudicini
    22 Alnwick
    23 Naughton
    24
    25
    12 of the 23 there are "Home Grown"
    Leave's space for a few new signings and Bale, Walker, Livermore, Rose are all under 21 last January and in all of last season we used 30 players in the league


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