Interest in a Boards.ie SC2 cup

gearoidof

Hey all,

So, SC2's out officially, and Boards.ie seems to have some proper discussion.
I'd be interested in running a cup for boards, but before I do, It's always a good idea to gauge interest.

Details
1on1 cup, rounds are best of 3, final is best of 5.
Map choice via map elimination system.
single elimination bracket, full placement (i.e. in a 16 player cup, everyone plays 4 games, so we have full rankings from 1-16)

If you're interested, just post a reply here, and state if you think the cup should be run in 1 night, or give players 3 days each round (and they can organize a time that suits between each other), either cup style works, night cups are easier generally, but players have to commit a full night to it.

Kiith

It's a good idea, but i think you'll need to wait a little while till people get some experience playing. Anyone who played the beta a lot will hammer anyone else.

B00MSTICK

I'd be up for it anyway, but I'd be one of the people to be hammered by a beta-pro.

I reckon a mini-lan could work at some stage too? Or even just have a group going to midlans or something?

Funky

Sounds good, I'd definitely play.

gearoidof

Well, seeing as registration should stay open for 2 weeks, it should only take 3 weeks for players to learn much of the game.

And the tournament system means that players should only get 1 spanking, next game should be half as much of a spank, next half again, and the final one should be close.

koHd

I'll give it a bash if it's in a few weeks. Haven't even played it yet!

Stingerbar

yup I'd be interested

pity theres no battlenet chat room to congregate in
maybe some IRC channel? or whatever people use now?

gearoidof

Battle.net chatrooms are due for release some time:
http://kotaku.com/5599252/starcraft-ii-chat-rooms-are-inbound

But before that, an IRC chat is the easiest way.

Paraxis

I'm definitely up for it. I would love to help in any way I can - Thedeathofacentury@gmail.com

Cpt.beefhart

I was gonna suggest it also. I'd like to help mail me msg me for anything need doing.

The_Keeper

Sounds good, I'd be up for it.

Shzm

I'm keen if it doesn't start for 2 -3 weeks as i'll be on hols

zoom!

I'm in definetly.

SeantheMan

gearoidof wrote: »

Battle.net chatrooms are due for release some time:
http://kotaku.com/5599252/starcraft-ii-chat-rooms-are-inbound

But before that, an IRC chat is the easiest way.

I didn't know IRC still existed.
Always hated it.

Although its not on it, A steam group could be created, and Starcraft 2 added as a non steam game, that way we could see player quickly who are online and playing Starcraft2 within Boards and chat/group chat/ schedule even as necessary ?

gearoidof

Entirely possible, and some cup organisers swear by steam groups, but I have a personal preference to IRC, mainly because it saves a log of the chat.

Stingerbar

A little 2v2 cup might be fun too and not as intimidating as the dreaded ONE ON ONE

BluE-WinG

Id definately be up for this.

Xios

Count me in, the 3 day rounds sound like a better option to me, as people have differing schedules etc.

Also 2v2 would be good fun too.

Kiith

I'm gonna start my multiplayer career on Saturday night if anyone is up for a few games.

DeVore

Great idea!

Couple of issues I can see though, at the moment its just out and not everyone even has it yet so we need to give it time for the non-beta's to catch up (I havent even gotten my copy yet as I'm on hols!). I dont even know the names of the units at the moment much less any build orders etc.

2v2 is a lot more fun then 1v1, and 4v4 would be awesome as we could have small tight clans of players and big moshes!

Summer holidays are going to impact on it too, so maybe we should test a proto-cup and have the main event in the autumn?

DeV.

TheDoc

Sounds a fantastic idea, 2v2 sounds more fun tbh

Also remember custom games can host a fair amount of spectators too so there should be a good atmosphere.

If you need a hand holla, have some experience with WC3 events, this should be lols.

gearoidof

As for specs, if it's a 3 day cup, doesn't work too well (unless you cast replays). If it's a night cup, I'll get a pro-caster to commentate for the night :P

The reason not to go for 2on2 is that it makes it 4 times harder to arrange a time to play, and for a successful cup, 2 weeks notice is recommended. I'll probably announce around the 10th, so that means the cup won't start til september as is.

RoyalMarine

Great stuff so far everyone!

Im sure we can get something organised soon and maybe have a practive cup to see how well it can be organised.

DeVore

I've always took the view that the match starts from the moment its declared as a match and the ability of the players to organise their lives to play is part of it too... understandbly some people get last minute interruptions that cannot be helped but if everyone agrees to a time and date and someone doesnt show, too bad. You wasted everyones time and deserve to lose imho.

DeV.

String

Im interested

gearoidof

Players can't always agree on a time to play is the problem.

I personally believe that the most important thing is to get the game played. Def losses should only be given when a game not being played is delaying the tournament as a whole.

Anti

I'm down for this like syndrome.

neil_

I'd probably play... I think a 1 night cup would be easiest and best for any spectators

Burgo

gearoidof wrote: »

Players can't always agree on a time to play is the problem.

Now imagine if it was a 2v2 or a 4v4 :pac:

DeVore

Some how it works for soccer

If the night is agreed beforehand then people either turn up or not. If you can't commit to playing one night, you shouldn't be putting your name down IMHO.

Pick a night in late august and let's all get stuck in.

DeV.

gearoidof

Well, it's different for 1 night cups. I was talking about 3 days per round cups.

That said, with cups announced 2 week in advance, a 60% show up rate is the norm.

Anyway. I've decided on a night cup, gonna run it in early september (I have more time then), and I'm gonna sort some things out and get back to ye.

RealistSpy

I am up for it

Anti

Shall we make this more interesting with each player throwing down say 5-10 euro, then winner takes all?

gearoidof

No

TheDoc

gearoidof wrote: »

No

LOLOLOLOLOL epic response

Yeah why put money down thats absolutely silly and will clearly deter people who don't feel confident playing the game, and it just makes it competitive over a laugh. The games not even out a month.

You can start talking about money at a later stage

Fol20

id probably be interested as well.just bought the game,first time ever playing the legendary game.Loving the single player so far and will defo move onto multiplayer.Not looking forward to the first few games online when i get my ass handed to me

zoom!

Fol20 wrote: »

id probably be interested as well.just bought the game,first time ever playing the legendary game.Loving the single player so far and will defo move onto multiplayer.Not looking forward to the first few games online when i get my ass handed to me

Don't understand what people's fears are about the MP.... it's not going to bite you :P I jumped straight into the multiplayer. My placements were terrible. I won two games and the games I won I was against really really bad players. I lost to bad players who had little sense of what they were doing. I've just been playing 1v1 and watching my replays and taking my time and got up to 3 in the silver league starting from 90 in bronze.

NeoSlicerZ

This... will be interesting

Fol20

zoom! wrote: »

Don't understand what people's fears are about the MP.... it's not going to bite you :P I jumped straight into the multiplayer. My placements were terrible. I won two games and the games I won I was against really really bad players. I lost to bad players who had little sense of what they were doing. I've just been playing 1v1 and watching my replays and taking my time and got up to 3 in the silver league starting from 90 in bronze.

Im not afraid of going online.usually i dont even bother with the campaign but for some reason, i like the campaign a good bit in this game.

TheDoc

zoom! wrote: »

Don't understand what people's fears are about the MP.... it's not going to bite you :P

I dont know how it works in SC2 yet, but in past blizz rpg games, most notibaly WC3, the match making system is pretty strict in assigning your skill level, and its very hard to increase.

A regular feat would be when an account got into a bad shape stat wise, make a new account.

I ran through maybe 40 wc3 accounts easily. You should want to play the best so you can get better, but if you get off to a poor start, you will find it taking absolute ages until you get into some good ranked games against good opponents.

SC2 isnt any different, you just have to see how you can make more then one account within the Sc2 profiler. I fully expect most players already are on their second account and this will continue.

Just how these games work, and it will be only a matter of time before we get the padder accounts.

these are the guys when you check their profile are like 60-0 W/L, and probably on their tenth account. I remember me and a friend in Wc2 had an arranged 2v2 team 221-19 , it was only like the 20th account we made to do it though :O

Gummy Panda

AFAIK, they do a ladder reset every few months. I don't know if that resets everyone to placement matches or not.

Matthewthebig

i'd be up for this

rzelky

gearoidof wrote: »

Hey all,

So, SC2's out officially, and Boards.ie seems to have some proper discussion.
I'd be interested in running a cup for boards, but before I do, It's always a good idea to gauge interest.

Details
1on1 cup, rounds are best of 3, final is best of 5.
Map choice via map elimination system.
single elimination bracket, full placement (i.e. in a 16 player cup, everyone plays 4 games, so we have full rankings from 1-16)

If you're interested, just post a reply here, and state if you think the cup should be run in 1 night, or give players 3 days each round (and they can organize a time that suits between each other), either cup style works, night cups are easier generally, but players have to commit a full night to it.

join up with zoo0m @ [URL="irc://irc.quakenet.org/starcraft.ie"]#starcraft.ie [/URL]- irc.quakenet.org - and make it happen ! http://tinyurl.com/37jydeh

gearoidof

Thanks rzelky, but he shouldn't need much help with his cup, it looks quite simple

rzelky

gearoidof wrote: »

Thanks rzelky, but he shouldn't need much help with his cup, it looks quite simple

referees/admins = help [for fun cups / mebbe semi-pro cups in the future ]
new format/ruleset = help
ideas = help
promotion = help
ripping final games and throwing them @ esp.ie utube channel:D = help

moar ppl there to help = success imo

MistaMagoo

TheDoc wrote: »

I dont know how it works in SC2 yet, but in past blizz rpg games, most notibaly WC3, the match making system is pretty strict in assigning your skill level, and its very hard to increase.

A regular feat would be when an account got into a bad shape stat wise, make a new account.

I ran through maybe 40 wc3 accounts easily. You should want to play the best so you can get better, but if you get off to a poor start, you will find it taking absolute ages until you get into some good ranked games against good opponents.

SC2 isnt any different, you just have to see how you can make more then one account within the Sc2 profiler. I fully expect most players already are on their second account and this will continue.

Just how these games work, and it will be only a matter of time before we get the padder accounts.

these are the guys when you check their profile are like 60-0 W/L, and probably on their tenth account. I remember me and a friend in Wc2 had an arranged 2v2 team 221-19 , it was only like the 20th account we made to do it though :O

Eh, you bought WC3 40 times?

Stingerbar

Sounds like it will be good fun

Of course I am sure there will be the obligatory hardcore UK player who'll find it and just cruuuush us

MistaMagoo

Stingerbar wrote: »

Sounds like it will be good fun

Of course I am sure there will be the obligatory hardcore UK player who'll find it and just cruuuush us

I'm in the UK, but I'm silver do don't worry

NeoSlicerZ

MistaMagoo wrote: »

Eh, you bought WC3 40 times?

You can make as many BNet accounts as you like in wc3.

Einstein

I'm also up for this...I know zooM was in touch with me online yesterday about a game this Thursday, which I cant make, but I'd be well up for the few rounds etc...

MistaMagoo

NeoSlicerZ wrote: »

You can make as many BNet accounts as you like in wc3.

Ok, you cant in Sc2 ( well no without buying the game again anyway).