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France to expel Roma illegals - should we follow?
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HavingCrack wrote: »If they're illegal immigrants and are living in illegal settlements the laws should be applied. However the two issues are mutually inclusive, you could be a French Romani living in an illegal settlement.
I think Sarkozy is only using this to appease the far right however as he's showing no signs of similar moves against illegal Algerians, Pakistanis, West Africans etc etc as he knows this would see a repeat of the Paris riots again.Interior Minister Brice Hortefeux said Thursday on RTL radio that over the next three months he would use decrees to dismantle about 300 illegal camps, of which 200 belong to Roma. These camps are the source of “illicit trafficking, children exploited for begging, prostitution or delinquency,” he said.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/30/world/europe/30france.html?src=mv
Not specifically targetting Roma.
http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp140/Mayo07J/picard-facepalm.jpgInTheTrees wrote: »Yeah lets all do it like the germans, they've have such a great track record of dealing with minorities right?
Nobody is going to a concentration camp to be gassed.southsiderosie wrote: »I generally agree that Nazi references are over-used on boards. But the overtones in this story are unbelievably nasty, especially since - as you pointed out - it's clear that this isn't simply a Roma issue. But Sarkozy chose to emphasize that particular aspect to curry political favor, and he (and others) should know better - especially given the current economic situation.
Why? Because people may draw redundant references to Nazi Germany?
This isn't genocide or anything of the kind.
I have no idea why people think that the French are going to exterminate any people of any race. Where are you all getting this idea from (and please don't say Hitler. Sarkozy is not a genocidal war monger)?
Say you invite someone over to your house and they start stealing things from you, and generally causing trouble. What do you do?
You ask them to leave.
Now put that on a national scale.
Sarkozy is doing what any rational person would do. He's getting rid of the trouble makers who have invaded his country.0 -
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I admire Sarkozy for his take no crap attitude.
First the burkha, and now this.
The Roma contribute nothing to society. Their society is based around crime. They are, in my opinion, nothing but pests.
Kudos to the French for once again doing the right thing.
wow racist much? No problem with you having an opinion on them but stating that their society is based around crime and that they contribute nothing to society is like saying Nigerians are all criminals and what have you and all.
Pretty racist to make sweeping general statements of the few bad apples that make the head lines or have crossed paths with you
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I wouldn't call it racist. I'd call it pointing out the obvious. Things that I witness on a day to day basis with my own two eyes.wow racist much? No problem with you having an opinion on them but stating that their society is based around crime and that they contribute nothing to society is like saying Nigerians are all criminals and what have you and all.
Pretty racist to make sweeping general statements of the few bad apples that make the head lines or have crossed paths with you :mad:
If you think I'm racist, then so be it. That's just, like, your opinion, man.0 -
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Diabhal_Glas wrote: »Some of the scobes have been trying to oust the Romani's for a while now
http://www.flickr.com/photos/13111789@N00/3695579692/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/13111789@N00/2905191206/
Sorry but how can there be any value in this photo without speaking to both sides first . You made out that its a racist attack ( it might well and probably is one ) but what if I posted that picture with a heading like this .....
Woman Attacked for stealing handbag ! ....... or
Woman in love triangle attacks ex partners new lover !
While your photo seems to explain a situation , the truth is without speaking to both sides anything could be going on there. Thats the art of a good editor
PS Im not arguing the right and wrong of a rasict attack here , im arguing the use of the photos. Plus anybody who strikes someone else holding a child is a complete and utter scumbag. All im saying is she might not be hitting her for the reason the photographer gives0 -
Sorry but how can there be any value in this photo without speaking to both sides first . You made out that its a racist attack ( it might well and probably is one ) but what if I posted that picture with a heading like this .....
Woman Attacked for stealing handbag ! ....... or
Woman in love triangle attacks ex partners new lover !
While your photo seems to explain a situation , the truth is without speaking to both sides anything could be going on there. Thats the art of a good editor
PS Im not arguing the right and wrong of a rasict attack here , im arguing the use of the photos. Plus anybody who strikes someone else holding a child is a complete and utter scumbag. All im saying is she might not be hitting her for the reason the photographer gives
Indeed.
You reminded me of this from my media masters days.
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Why does mention of the nazis trigger most of us to check out the 'red' button - the nazis brought alot of things on board in health care, rockets and NASA, and present world outlook - whilst they were distasteful at their time, in general the world (especially those elite chaps) were advantaged by them
pity they got to gassing gays and catholics - good job they never made it to Ireland 0 -
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Why does mention of the nazis trigger most of us to check out the 'red' button - the nazis brought alot of things on board in health care, rockets and NASA, and present world outlook - whilst they were distasteful at their time, in general the world (especially those elite chaps) were advantaged by them
pity they got to gassing gays and catholics - good job they never made it to Ireland
Where's the camera , thats not a real comment is it !!!!!!
Okay come out now , the games over
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Where's the camera , thats not a real comment is it !!!!!!
Okay come out now , the games over
it is actually - bar the negatives of gassing jews catholics romas and homosexuals the world embraced all the advancements made - rocket science, physiological measurements, eugenics and computer (IBM) advancements with hardly a mention
I am not nazi nor BNP advocate but the reality is what it is0 -
gassing catholics they didn't gas catholics......sure most of the nazi top brass were catholic including Hitler
have you heard of max kolbe?
Hitler was a catholic LOL
Nazis didn't hunt down and gas catholics - were have you been living? Next thing I ll hear they didn't gas gypsies and gays
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it is actually - bar the negatives of gassing jews catholics romas and homosexuals the world embraced all the advancements made - rocket science, physiological measurements, eugenics and computer (IBM) advancements with hardly a mention
I am not nazi nor BNP advocate but the reality is what it is
gassing catholics they didn't gas catholics, sure most of the nazi top brass were catholic including Hitler 0 -
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gassing catholics they didn't gas catholics, sure most of the nazi top brass were catholic including Hitler
Eh yes they did by the truck full too - eh Hitler Catholic?
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need to do some real reading0 -
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may have been catholic (ie WAS) and YES did target catholics for gassing but hey today given the witch hunt on catholicism its not PC to point this out
as for reading about the holocaust in its entirety I am quite sure given your npostings you are not so
may have beenhe was until the day he died
Political opponents were gassed, whether they be catholic, protestant, jewish, communist whatever.
Catholics were not singled out like the way the jews & gypsys were.0 -
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