UFC 118: Toney vs Couture **spoilers inside**

SDTimeout

When an out of towner suggests it may be fixed there's uproar.

When Cowzer suggested about the ref allowing brock extra time there was mild discontent.

Double standards against the boxing community....

kev9100

walshb wrote: »

Are you in Toney's camp to know exactly what cardiological ' shape he is in?

Have you been monitoring his fitness or something?

No, I'm not but I feel fairly confident in saying that Couture is in far better shape than Toney and a much better fighter as well.

walshb

SDTimeout wrote: »

When an out of towner suggests it may be fixed there's uproar.

When Cowzer suggested about the ref allowing brock extra time there was mild discontent.

Double standards against the boxing community....

Sense,

btw, me sating this could be fixed is not a dig at UFC, it is simply to point
out that when big hype and big money are on the cards, then there is a potential for this kind of thing. BOXING is renound for this, at least the hint of it anyway. Difficult to prove, but shenadigans goes on

demolitionman

i would love for toney to win, but realistically he's up against one of the smartest mma fighters there is.randy is very experienced and will not fall into playing james toneys game. couture knows his best chance of a win is take james down and g'n'p.
lets not forget couture was an alternate numerous times on the us olympic wrestling team. 6 months of training will not help james to prevent himself from being taken down.i expect this to happen within the first 90 seconds of the fight. when he is on the ground james will have very little chance of standing it back up.

walshb ive always respected your posts on the boxing forum but i really think you're fooling yourself here.

james has a chance, albeit a punchers chance.

Daniel2oo9

walshb wrote: »

Are you in Toney's camp to know exactly what cardiological ' shape he is in?

Have you been monitoring his fitness or something?

Looks can be very deceiving. The guy has had many boxing fights whilst 230 and his stamina has been grand.

MMA Is a Complete Diff Kettle of fish when it Comes To Conditioning.
You use your arms in Boxing.
In MMA Theres Knees Elbows Punches Kicks takedowns,and believe me when you have someone 90+ KG's Lying on top of you working GnP And Submissions you tire out WAY Quicker than you would in Boxing.
MMA Has the Best Conditioned Athletes in any combat sport.

walshb

demolitionman wrote: »

i would love for toney to win, but realistically he's up against one of the smartest mma fighters there is.randy is very experienced and will not fall into playing james toneys game. couture knows his best chance of a win is take james down and g'n'p.
lets not forget couture was an alternate numerous times on the us olympic wrestling team. 6 months of training will not help james to prevent himself from being taken down.i expect this to happen within the first 90 seconds of the fight. when he is on the ground james will have very little chance of standing it back up.

walshb ive always respected your posts on the boxing forum but i really think you're fooling yourself here.

james has a chance, albeit a punchers chance.

I know well I am in the minority, and do know that Couture is very good, I just have a sneaky feeling that Toney wins this. Am I overly confident? No, but I'd place money on him, albeit a small sum.

SDTimeout

walshb wrote: »

Sense,

btw, me sating this could be fixed is not a dig at UFC, it is simply to point
out that when big hype and big money are on the cards, then there is a potential for this kind of thing. BOXING is renound for this, at least the hint of it anyway. Difficult to prove, but shenadigans goes on

It's not beyond the realms of thought that the fight could be fixed due to profile. However due to my affection towards the UFC would say i can't see them fixing a fight.

However as i wrote on my blog ( CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP PLUG ) i do think Toney has very little regard for this fight and company and is using it as a stepping stone to get one big last interest in a boxing purse. As he can get alot more monetary gain as opposed to a UFC fight.

walshb

Daniel2oo9 wrote: »

MMA Is a Complete Diff Kettle of fish when it Comes To Conditioning.
You use your arms in Boxing.
In MMA Theres Knees Elbows Punches Kicks takedowns,and believe me when you have someone 90+ KG's Lying on top of you working GnP And Submissions you tire out WAY Quicker than you would in Boxing.
MMA Has the Best Conditioned Athletes in any combat sport.

Again, who here knows what MMA conditioning Toney has done?

He is hardly just BOXING training now, is he?

Do you believe that Toney has NOT trained for wrestling and other facets of the game? You think his team are that inept?

SDTimeout

Daniel2oo9 wrote: »

MMA Is a Complete Diff Kettle of fish when it Comes To Conditioning.
You use your arms in Boxing.
In MMA Theres Knees Elbows Punches Kicks takedowns,and believe me when you have someone 90+ KG's Lying on top of you working GnP And Submissions you tire out WAY Quicker than you would in Boxing.
MMA Has the Best Conditioned Athletes in any combat sport.

Daniel, please please please please please please please do not try and argue the case of MMA considering you forgot the fight a boxing match can go up to 12 ROUNDS OF 5 MIN OF ACTION.

Daniel2oo9

SDTimeout wrote: »

Daniel, please please please please please please please do not try and argue the case of MMA considering you forgot the fight a boxing match can go up to 12 ROUNDS OF 5 MIN OF ACTION.

Yes but tbh most of them are tired after 5 rounds

walshb

Oh, just in case anyone calls my prediction a fluke, I think Toney wins with his fists, and early too.

Boxing at top level is 12 by 3, and No, most aren't tired after 5. And if they were, they dig
deep, suck it up and go on

SDTimeout

Daniel2oo9 wrote: »

Yes but tbh most of them are tired after 5 rounds

Stop.

Even after 5 rounds that's more than HALF a UFC fight extra.

Daniel2oo9

walshb wrote: »

Oh, just in case anyone calls my prediction a fluke, I think Toney wins with his fists, and early too.

TBH He probably wont

SDTimeout

walshb wrote: »

Oh, just in case anyone calls my prediction a fluke, I think Toney wins with his fists, and early too.

Boxing at top level is 12 by 3, and No, most aren't tired after 5. And if they were, they dig
deep, suck it up and go on

Thanks for that, i thought it was 5!

seadnamac

SDTimeout wrote: »

When an out of towner suggests it may be fixed there's uproar.

When Cowzer suggested about the ref allowing brock extra time there was mild discontent.

Double standards against the boxing community....

Allegedly.....I think you'll find that if you ever bring that up you may be issued with a warning. Allegedly.

seadnamac

SDTimeout wrote: »

Daniel, please please please please please please please do not try and argue the case of MMA considering you forgot the fight a boxing match can go up to 12 ROUNDS OF 5 MIN OF ACTION.

Tut tut tut tut tut......

Fromvert

walshb wrote: »

Will this question still apply should Toney win?

I'll take as

walshb wrote: »

No, I havn't a fiddlers what I'm talking about.

walshb

I'm done for the night.

Feel free to sing my praises via this thread should a natural
born fighter, Toney, kick Randy's ass.

Should Toney lose:o, I shan't be around these parts:)

walshb

Fromvert wrote: »

I'll take as

Now now, nobody likes arrogance!

SDTimeout

On the radio i'd just like to say i did predict a toney win until i heard the comments that he wasn't training GNP because he wouldn't need it.

Fromvert

walshb wrote: »

Again, who here knows what MMA conditioning Toney has done?

He is hardly just BOXING training now, is he?

Do you believe that Toney has NOT trained for wrestling and other facets of the game? You think his team are that inept?

Well one BJJ trainer who corners MMA fighters and would probably be in know, came out and said he's heard Toney's not doing a tap of training.

Fromvert

walshb wrote: »

Now now, nobody likes arrogance!

So then, what is your knowledge of MMA?

walshb

Fromvert wrote: »

Well one BJJ trainer who corners MMA fighters and would probably be in know, came out and said he's heard Toney's not doing a tap of training.

Well, at least that is some source; better than the idle crap being spun
about his conditioning.

BTW, who is this BJJ trainer?

Fromvert

walshb wrote: »

Well, at least that is some source; better than the idle crap being spun
about his conditioning.

BTW, who is this BJJ trainer?

Eddie Bravo

walshb

Fromvert wrote: »

So then, what is your knowledge of MMA?

What, is there some revered book, or bible about this game/activity/sport?
Strange question that.

walshb

Fromvert wrote: »

Eddie Bravo

So, Eddie just happened to "hear," yeah?

Bravo is right!

Fromvert

walshb wrote: »

What, is there some revered book, or bible about this game/activity/sport?
Strange question that.

No, but if people are going to make a prediction on a fight I'd expect them to have some knowledge of it, you seem to have none. That's why I asked the question.

walshb

Fromvert wrote: »

No, but if people are going to make a prediction on a fight I'd expect them to have some knowledge of it, you "seem" to have none. That's why I asked the question.

Well, there is your problem. You "seem" too much, that could make you look really foolish sometime.

You want a breakdown? I gave it a few posts back.

Fromvert

walshb wrote: »

Well, there is your problem. You "seem" too much, that could make you look really foolish sometime.

You want a breakdown? I gave it a few posts back.

Your fun. If you want to give out another break down go on then.

walshb

Fromvert wrote: »

Your fun. If you want to give out another break down go on then.

Why would I give another one? It only takes one with most folks.

Anyway, gotta get some sleep, alarm set for fight? What time is Toney
expected in the ring, sorry, cage...?

Daniel2oo9

Oh Christ Can we stop all this Stupid arguing and more important
GET BACK ON TOPIC

cardio,shoot me

Daniel2oo9 wrote: »

Oh Christ Can we stop all this Stupid arguing and more important
GET BACK ON TOPIC

what the hell, do you realise what thread your in?

this is the topic

Devastator

walshb wrote: »

that could make you look really foolish sometime.

so could fighting like little schoolgirls over the internet....and your a mod? :eek:

Daniel2oo9

Mike Pierce wins by Cross Body Armbar :pac: Rd 3

c montgomery

anyone got a link to a stream of this. Working at the moment so cant watch it:(

Devastator

Daniel2oo9 wrote: »

Mike Pierce wins by Cross Body Armbar :pac: Rd 3

said on blog I'm reading it was a kimura

win's a win

Daniel2oo9

Daniel2oo9 wrote: »

Mike Pierce wins by Cross Body Armbar :pac: Rd 3

1st prediction right.
Looking good :pac::pac:

Daniel2oo9

Deleted User wrote: »

1st prediction right.
Looking good :pac::pac:

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

cardio,shoot me

which thread is being used then,

Devastator

cardio,shoot me wrote: »

which thread is being used then,

well this thread has 290 replies, the other has 21.....which would would you think?

cardio,shoot me

the one with spoilers in the title to be honest, i aint using tags

Fall_Guy

Devastator wrote: »

well this thread has 290 replies, the other has 21.....which would would you think?

this one doesn't have a spoiler warning. the other one does. that might make someone think the other one was a more handy place to put spoilers without having to put up spoiler tags non-stop.

*edit: what cardio said

digme

is bj the main event or randy?

cardio,shoot me

i think bj is

Daniel2oo9

Lets all move.









*Runs to Other Thread*:pac:

sonic.trip

title fight is obviously the main event

cardio,shoot me

yea, but the thread title isnt the same as the card title

Devastator

sonic.trip wrote: »

title fight is obviously the main event

not so obvious for some in here it seems

Daniel2oo9

i think we shoud go to the other thread tbh

Devastator

Daniel2oo9 wrote: »

i think we shoud go to the other thread tbh

are you looking someone to hold your hand or something? :eek:

if you wanna go post in the other thread then go

edit - when the boxing boardies go and complain in the other thread that MMA is boring and they keep rolling about on the ground you can explain to them why they're wrong.