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SSD or F3 RAID 0's

  • 04-08-2010 3:47pm
    #1
    Tea_Bag
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,983 ✭✭✭


    so i want to get a little more out of my PC's response time and booting of W7 and a few programs.

    i currently have a samsung F3 500gb, and i was wondering if i'd be better off buying another F3 and RAID 0 the guys or buy This SSD which seems a good price.

    according to HD tune, my HDD is performing pretty well compared to the SSD, but the SSD's access time should be much lower?

    would RAID 0 give me much more of a performance increase?

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    ha just tested yesteryears F1 160gb that i have in here for backup, and look at the difference. i think is HDD is on its way out is it?

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  • #2
    Lu Tze
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,495 ✭✭✭Lu Tze


    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=63665557&postcount=1

    If its performance for 2 F3s in raid the above link should be helpful


  • #3
    PogMoThoin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,874 ✭✭✭✭PogMoThoin


    Ssd's have zero seek time, no mechanical drive even comes close


  • #4
    Deano12345
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    Lu Tze wrote: »
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=63665557&postcount=1

    If its performance for 2 F3s in raid the above link should be helpful

    Should be noted I did short stroke those drives


  • #5
    Lu Tze
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,495 ✭✭✭Lu Tze


    Deano12345 wrote: »
    Should be noted I did short stroke those drives

    You are like an academic, these are the results, but the constraints and limitations of the test scenario are... ;)


  • #6
    Tea_Bag
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,983 ✭✭✭Tea_Bag


    Deano12345 wrote: »
    Should be noted I did short stroke those drives
    what size are they now after the short stroke?

    EDIT: sorry just seen that they are 214gb.

    thats really good performance, but taking away over 75% of the HDD's capacity isnt really winning very much. still bigger and cheaper than an SSD though.



    how much of a difference is 10-15ms access time vs 0.1ms SSD?

    anyone with both care to share?


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  • #7
    Deano12345
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    SSD's are instant, everything happens straight away.

    There will always be a delay in a mechanical drive.

    Although a full sized RAID (1TB for me) will still do very good read write speads


  • #8
    Lu Tze
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,495 ✭✭✭Lu Tze


    Deano12345 wrote: »
    SSD's are instant, everything happens straight away.

    There will always be a delay in a mechanical drive.

    I went from a normal hard drive to a raptor, and it made a bit of a difference, not life changing or anything though! Went from a 10ms access time to 8, and windows started quicker, programs launcded quicker etc. but only maybe about 10% quicker, nothing like the benefit an SSD would give.

    For the price of that SSD if you could afford it would give more benefit for general usage. Presume the read and writes speeds (with the F3s in raid) would only prove useful when copying/writing large files.


  • #9
    Tea_Bag
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,983 ✭✭✭Tea_Bag


    SSD seems to be the way to go, but they really are expensive compared to HDD's.

    how much would you be looking to spend on a (good) raid controller?


  • #10
    PogMoThoin
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    Tea_Bag wrote: »

    how much of a difference is 10-15ms access time vs 0.1ms SSD?

    anyone with both care to share?

    I have both and the difference is huge, Arma2 loads less than half the time. Opening files is instant, whereas on a mechanical drive 10ms is a long time, and this is only when the disk has already spun to full speed.


  • #11
    Civilian_Target
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    I'm using a 60GB SSD on Windows 7. Boot is fast and almost silent, and there's almost no delay while programs load after login.

    Honestly, no mechanical HD comes close to these things, they completely change the way your PC behaves.

    Downside is, they're small, expensive and you'll have to reformat.


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  • #12
    Deano12345
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,594 ✭✭✭Deano12345


    Tea_Bag wrote: »
    SSD seems to be the way to go, but they really are expensive compared to HDD's.

    how much would you be looking to spend on a (good) raid controller?

    To be honest, any recent Intel controller will be able to handle most HDD RAID arrays (up to about 400mb/s)


  • #13
    jpl888
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    Yes the SSD is the way to go, but you don't need to reformat unless you want to make life hard for yourself.

    The main thing with SSDs is that you get the right partition alignment otherwise they can stutter to a crawl.

    Luckily for you when you create a new partition with Windows 7 it uses a 1Meg boundary by default, so as long as you create the partition before copy the existing one from the hard drive. Of course you will need to resize the partition so it's small enough to fit on the SSD.

    Probably giving you too much info.


  • #14
    Capt'n Midnight
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    It's called Raid 0 because that's the exact number of files you can recover if either drive fails. :p


    If you want drives to run faster just set up a partition to use the first 1/3rd of the drive, this will double data transfer rate and halve the seek time - if you are considering SSD then loosing lots of HDD space ain't an issue,


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