Who do YOU support?

Sergeant

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Wow, it looks like the left has the majority now. I wouldn't put it past labour to enter a coalition with the socialist party and sinn féin.

Because an After Hours poll is indicative of a seachange in Irish politics? It won't happen, but I'd be getting my bags and baggage and getting the hell out of the place.

ElaElaElano

Someone ring the Times, tomorrow's headline- 'Socialists overtake Fianna Fail ad Fine Gael in latest opinion poll.'

If only people had that frame of mind going into elections. Instead the majority will 'have their say' on one regime of capitalism by voting for another in Fine Gael, and then when that fails spectacularly, back to Fianna Fail, and so the cycle of Irish politics goes on.

Incredible when you think about the people who fought for Ireland's independence in the first place, would they be seen as pinko washed up liberals today?

veryangryman

thebigbiffo wrote: »

It's a democracy,

I dont think anyone voted Cowen for Taoiseach. "Mandate to govern?" My ass

thebigbiffo wrote: »

we have to vote for somebody

No we don't. 60-70% of the electorate dont vote. I personally didnt vote in the last election (laziness) but would have gone for the FF'er who got in.

thebigbiffo wrote: »

so who should it be and what would you have them do when they got there.

Labour this time. I dont have loyalty to any one party - i just pick who i think is best each time around.

thebigbiffo wrote: »

mods: this is a question for the AH crew we all know and love

We dont all know and love them! Ive seen people cry due to the AH response to their posts! :eek:

AckwelFoley

starbelgrade wrote: »

Thatcher would know a lot about making financial messes.

She did do alot for the British economy after the doldrums of the 70s

MikeRoeSopht

Personlly I hate this country and the government are white collar high class untouchable criminals.

If you ask me what time it is , I would say it's 19:16
time for another risin

AckwelFoley

Sergeant wrote: »

Because an After Hours poll is indicative of a seachange in Irish politics? It won't happen, but I'd be getting my bags and baggage and getting the hell out of the place.

Will you pick me up on the way to the airport?

inmyday

MikeRoeSopht wrote: »

Personlly I hate this country and the government are white collar high class untouchable criminals.

If you ask me what time it is , I would say it's 19:16
time for another risin

you hate the country, but you want another rising, do you know the point of the last one?

Sea Sharp

Manchester City.

Horse_box

16 people have voted for fianna fail.

****s sake

The Volt

Horse_box wrote: »

16 people have voted for fianna fail.

****s sake

Just under 8% of the vote.

The Waltzing Consumer

Horse_box wrote: »

16 people have voted for fianna fail.

****s sake

I would be more worried about the twenty percent who support Socialists :eek:

Minstrel27

I am not affiliated with any party. I will vote whoever I feel is best for the job. At the moment that is anyone who is not FF or a Green.

starbelgrade

snyper wrote: »

She did do alot for the British economy after the doldrums of the 70s

WHAT?!?!?!?!

:eek:

Margaret Thatcher did a few good things - the deregulation of financial markets & the abolition of much of the machinery of the corporate state. But her influence upon the economy was, in many ways, disastrous.

The original Thatcherite macroeconomic policy – the use of monetary targets to cut inflation – was a terrible failure. Inflation did eventually fall, but that was due to a recession and a fall in world-wide inflation – certainly not because of lower monetary growth.

She did nothing for reducing the tax burden to the state, did nothing for health & education and two of the worst recessions the UK has seen began under the Iron Lady.

And I won't even go into the Falklands war & her policies regarding Northern Ireland.

MrSir

You do realize all the Irish parties are exactly the same? There really should have been a "Don't care and never will" option.

starbelgrade

MrSir wrote: »

You do realize all the Irish parties are exactly the same? There really should have been a "Don't care and never will" option.

There is - it's called Fianna Fail.

Anyone that has voted for Fianna Fail should be shot.

What glasses are you wearing? Must be nice

owenc

The Waltzing Consumer wrote: »

I would be more worried about the twenty percent who support Socialists :eek:

No thats for people voting for other parties.;)

genericguy

My name is URL wrote: »

Not sure about the socialist party on the whole, but Joe Higgins is one of the best political leaders in the country, imo

are you fuking serious? he sat in the dail, waiting for everyone to vote unanimously on a topic, and then disagreed, purely so he looked like a crusader in the eyes of the uneducated. and wasn't he caught out over lisbon when he altered documents and paraded them around as 'facts' in support of his views?

on the other hand, i know him personally, and he is a normal person who genuinely believes (wrongly imo) that he has the good of the population at heart, and is most definitely not corrupt. he's a nice, solid guy, but as a politician he's an absolute cnut.

Sergeant

genericguy wrote: »

are you fuking serious? he sits in the dail,

He lost his seat in the last Dáil. Currently over in Europe, flying the red flag for Ireland in a hodgepodge coalition of Communists and other pamphlet publishers.

My name is URL

genericguy wrote: »

are you fuking serious? he sits in the dail, waiting for everyone to vote unanimously on a topic, and then disagrees, purely so he looks like a crusader in the eyes of the uneducated. and wasn't he caught out over lisbon when he altered documents and paraded them around as 'facts' in support of his views.

Wasn't aware that he altered documents.. any links?

I'd say that 90% of politicians were skewing facts to suit their own agendas in the run up to Lisbon II.. plenty of scare mongering and ridiculous campaign posters from both sides.

View

The Waltzing Consumer wrote: »

I would be more worried about the twenty percent who support Socialists :eek:

Well, the 20% is actually the "Other: Socialists, Communists, Workers Party etc" vote.

The "etc" covers the people who'll vote "Independent Fianna Fail" at the next election.

P_1

Where's the Mé Féin party option? Seems to be what the majority would vote for.

genericguy

My name is URL wrote: »

Wasn't aware that he altered documents.. any links?

I'd say that 90% of politicians were skewing facts to suit their own agendas in the run up to Lisbon II.. plenty of scare mongering and ridiculous campaign posters from both sides.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0909/6news_av.html?2607247,null,230

he also spoofed about privatisation of health services, dodged questions when he was asked about dodgy abortion claims in relation to the treaty.

and although every politician is guilty of spinning the content of the treaty to some extent, that cretin blatantly falsified it to support himself when he was losing the battle. as nice a person as i'll say joe higgins is, i wouldn't want him anywhere near the cabinet.

Precious flower

Fozzie Bear wrote: »

Labour- Look to be the best of a bad bunch right now. A lot of hot air and bluster to them too though. Eamonn Gilmore comes across a bit smug to me at times and Joan Burton just wrecks my head. She looks and sounds like a pre-op transexual who has not quite gotten the estrogen doses right yet. They are the party too of course of Dick Spring. God almighty how did he end up letting himself get called that? He was as well to just change it to Mycocks Afloppin or Viagra and have done with it. God help me but I think I will be voting for that lot.

This came straight to my mind when you said that!

unknown13

Tottenham Hotspur

thebigbiffo

brianthebard wrote: »

How can you say that Cowen should accept responsibility for the failures of the economy and in the same post say that the Government didn't know the severity of the banks lies? Do you see how if you believe one of those statements the other does not compute and vice versa? Do you realise how much you contradicted yourself in the above post? Populist FF clap trap comes easily to all their supporters, with 'hard talking and common sense' taking the place of being realistic and methodical.

As for when 'we' were all rolling in it, I wasn't involved in any of the ****ehawking of the past decade so count me out of your collective punishment share the blame catholic guilt self flagellation five more years dystopia.

first. it's not a contradiction saying cowen wouldn't have known the extent of the lies coming from the banks and expecting him to resign. my opinion is that a head needed to role for the sake of pr and it should have been cowen's as - although i dont blame him personally - he was the top of the political food chain in terms of responsibility. surely you can understand this? as an example. you wouldn't directly blame the head of BP for the actual explosion or spill in the gulf of mexico, but as the head of the company he's ultimately responsible and he resigned. same thing.

second. i wasn't talking about you personally so i couldn't give a f'uck how responsible you were during the boom. the reason we're in this mess is that the vast majority were not...so that just reeks of a rant and blind aggression and your 'collective punishment share the blame catholic guilt self flagellation five more years dystopia' s'hite is funny cos guess what? as a citizen, you're paying for it anyway and you cant be counted out! sucks huh!?

bernardo mac

Voting and opinions suggest that we need a radical cleansing of an extremely corrupt body politic.It is time to rid the system at local and national level of the parasitic cute hoors,the "I'll get that done for You brigade",the seeming patriotic but self serving representatives that have" dried the marrow from the bone " in every county and electoral area of this state.Ivor Callely got caught on the "make"and is an extreme embarrassment to FF.But how many,whatever the political affiliation,have been and still are , " taking "and "making " from their positions of power and influence? "Feathering one's own nest " is a euphemism for cynical self interest and its common and ready use may indicate our acceptance that it is in the nature of all and of course,the political animal to look after the self first.But we have been blind and passive for far too long to corruption and exploitation by public figures of their positions of power and privilege.The crazy concrete examples in the areas of planning and development are depressingly obvious, as is the resultant financial misery of the unemployed and those struggling to pay bills and mortgages; but it's almost impossible to measure the private pain,despair and disillusionment that is being suffered while the political and business elite enjoy the soft bedding provided by invisible earnings. They will never need Support!

tolosenc

FF are spineless and useless. Gilmore may be the most charismatic leader, but if Labour get in to power, with their pro-public sector, pro-union policies, they'll just make it worse. SF are, as said before, irrelevant nordies. Greens - spineless hippies. Commies etc - Most people allowed to vote have matured since age 14.

That leaves FG - the only real choice until the Zombie-PD party emerges.

Paddy Samurai

I hate the Romans,so for me it has to be the "the People's Front of Judea".:D

baltimore sun

Wexford Youths

thebigbiffo

Paddy Samurai wrote: »

I hate the Romans,so for me it has to be the "the People's Front of Judea".:D

f'uck off you c'unt. it's 'the judean peoples front' or nothing for me

owenc

starbelgrade wrote: »

WHAT?!?!?!?!

:eek:

Margaret Thatcher did a few good things - the deregulation of financial markets & the abolition of much of the machinery of the corporate state. But her influence upon the economy was, in many ways, disastrous.

The original Thatcherite macroeconomic policy – the use of monetary targets to cut inflation – was a terrible failure. Inflation did eventually fall, but that was due to a recession and a fall in world-wide inflation – certainly not because of lower monetary growth.

She did nothing for reducing the tax burden to the state, did nothing for health & education and two of the worst recessions the UK has seen began under the Iron Lady.

And I won't even go into the Falklands war & her policies regarding Northern Ireland.

Don't listen to them, they are only going against her because ireland is a labour country, Ni being more conservative, sure Ireland doesn't even have a conservative party!

mikom

owenc wrote: »

Ni being more conservative

Are you a knight who says.......?

thebigbiffo

mikom wrote: »

Are you a knight who says.......?

now officially the monty python appreciation and quote thread

owenc

mikom wrote: »

Are you a knight who says.......?

Who says what.:rolleyes:

mikom

owenc wrote: »

Who says what.:rolleyes:

Ni.

Ulster says Ni.

owenc

mikom wrote: »

Ni.

Ulster says Ni.

What? Yes i Said Ni which stands for Northern Ireland.

Lemegeton

i belive that power corrupts so IMO the only honest politicians are the ones without any power.

owenc

Lemegeton wrote: »

i belive that power corrupts so IMO the only honest politicians are the ones without any power.

I'd doubt there is any.

thebigbiffo

owenc wrote: »

Who says what.:rolleyes:

biiing yippa yippa grrrr ruupe

HavingCrack

Looking for a Libertarian party but Irish politics is lacking any .

brianthebard

Lemegeton wrote: »

i belive that power corrupts so IMO the only honest politicians are the ones without any power.

By that logic county councillors should be the most honest politicians out there.

thebigbiffo

brianthebard wrote: »

By that logic county councillors should be the most honest politicians out there.

some of the most powerful people in a locality though...what with one off planning and the like. but i see your point

PeterIanStaker

The only thing that would make me a FF voter would be repeated blunt force trauma to the head.

monkeypants

It's not so much who I like more as it's about who I hate the least.

2manyconditions

what exactly is wrong with the 26 people who voted FF

Are we not up sh#~s creek cause of them f##kers

They haven't a clue how to run the country only how to run their own finances and they are not great at that either seen how Berty, Charlie, michael and this recent fxxker ( I don't even know his name) get caught.

how many more years will it take ppl to move away from this crappy party. I just don't get it!

chocolate biscuits

Prof.Badass wrote: »

Out of all the parties in ireland (left, right whatever) there is not one which is socially liberal.

We really are a backward country .

how are we backward would we not be more progressive with out these NEETs (Not in Education Employment or Training) claiming the dole?:rolleyes:

Owwmykneecap

Voltwad wrote: »

"Labour have no policies"

A completely untrue and baseless lie spread by the media. Check the website, there's a whole load of information on Labour policies there.

This is the reason we have ff in power. idiots who say "ahh they're all the same", to cover their astounding lack of knowledge.

Turn off the premier league once in a while and you might ****ing learn something.