Undiagnosed circle of hell.

cltt97

That's good news. Just be careful stopping everything abruptly. Especially vitamins and minerals, better to slowly taper them down so the body gets adjusted to the change in supply.

dlofnep

I'm still taking my vitmins - I stopped the antifungals, and Thiodox. I think it may do more harm than good. I am keeping up with my vitamins and milk thistle and a few other supplements.

dlofnep

Backpain in kidney/liver area has gone since stopping antifungals. Still not feeling great, but haven't been to bad today. Going to try out organic coconut oil for the brain-fog, waiting on a delivery. Alot of reviews have been positive - only one way to find out!

Splendour

Hi dlofnep,

Like you, I suffer with dreadful brain fog- it is the bane of my life, so you can imagine my surprise and delight to be brain fog free for a full week recently while on hols in Spain. Not even a hint of brain fog and although having been gluten/dairy free for past two years I decided to have a couple of shandies and was amazed when to feel perfectly fine after them! A whole week free of fog-it felt AMAZING!
However, on my first day home, the fog began to descend, later that day I went my folks for dinner and it lifted, came home it came back. So. I was thinking it could be carbon monoxide in my house and made a mental note to purchase an alarm.

Rang my homeopathic practitioner the next day and she suggested I could be suffering from ElectroSensitivity from the plethora of electrical goods and radiation which we are all exposed to on a daily basis. She recommended I change my portable phone for a corded one, curb the use of my mobile (text msgs being the least offender), get rid of microwave and seriously limit my use of wireless broadband (prior to this my broadband box was on 24/7-in my bedroom!) Wireless seems to be the worst offender of electrosensitivity. The irony of this is that I went online to read up on this! Here's a website with information: http://www.electrosensitivity.org/qa.htm

I have followed my practitioner's advice ( the micro still there though as it makes a great shelf ), and I have been feeling really good. Had a few hours brain fog yesterday due to my son being online for about three hours (difficult to keep a teen offline!).
I'm not suggesting this is the complete cure to your illness-or mine but it may be worth a try for you to see if it makes any difference. I know like me you will try anything to feel 'normal' again.

dlofnep

Perhaps the heat in Spain might have helped? I do feel very refreshed after a sauna, so the sweating might have helped clear toxins more than normal? Just an idea.

Hal Emmerich

Align your bed in a north-south direction while your at it.

Pharaoh1

Hi dlofnep,
I haven't read the entire thread but skimmed through enough to get the general idea and can completely identify with your problem.
My problems started almost exactly ten years ago and like many I suppose I could write a book about the search for answers.
To summarise though I am fortunate in that I would say I have made an almost 100% recovery and in many ways feel better than I ever did.
(Of course although although I always had a reasonably healthy lifestyle I do pay a bit more attention to diet/exercise now)

I couldn't say with absolute certainty why that came about but a few key factors.

- Recovery was a very gradual/incremental process with many major setbacks along the way.

- After bankrupting myself going to a long list of doctors, consultants, specialists and several alternative type therapists I kind of stumbled on Dr John McKenna

- His diagnosis was the clearest I got and the treatment (summary) was for the heavy metals (fillings and chelation) Blastocystis hominis treated by strict diet,colonic irrigation, medication and supplements.

- I was probably improving before I went to him and the passage of time may well have been an important factor although I feel a breakthrough was made by Dr. McKenna

- I feel I didn't deal with the psychological/mental aspect correctly. Don't get me wrong I had enough people and several doctors tell me it was all in my head and they were completely wrong. But i underestimated the massive blow something like this deals to your self confidence and the impact that in itself can have and for me it is the part that still needs work.

I'm cautious of saying to anybody that because things I did worked well that it could or should be followed because of different cases and symptoms.
Anyone want to PM me feel free.

dlofnep

That's not the first time someone has recommended him - but as of right now, I have no spare cash to see a private clinic. I will drop you a message as we can't discuss clinics in this thread.

opinion guy

How are you feeling dlofnep since you changed your regime ?

dlofnep

opinion guy wrote: »

How are you feeling dlofnep since you changed your regime ?

Same - Waiting on that book by Cutler. Read through all of the reviews - the results looked very promising. I got some organic coconut oil today - so going to try it out for a few days to see if it can help clear this brain fog.

cltt97

I heard/read somewhere that Dr McKenna retired+ and that his daughter has taken over the clinic? Does anyone know?

Axe Rake

dlofnep wrote: »

If that fails, I'm going to get tested for heavy metal toxicity - as I my health went downhill since fillings. It may or may not be a contributing factor - but at this point, all I can do is eliminate absolutely everything that could be causing it.

dlofnep wrote: »

They have an acceptable range value.

Chromium: (Acceptable: 0.10 - 3.50) - Level: 0.069
Copper: (Acceptable: 1.45 - 60.00) - Level: 66.233
Selenium: (Acceptable: 12.00 - 90.00) - Level: 10.439
Lead: (Acceptable: Less than 5.00) - Level: 9.579
Mercury: (Acceptable: Less than 1.00) - Level: 2.298

So my mercury levels were more than double the acceptable levels, and lead was almost double the acceptable levels.

Have you ever considered taking Chlorella? If not i think you should consider trying it for a week or two and see how you react.

I really hope your condition improves, all the best

dlofnep

Axe Rake wrote: »

Have you ever considered taking Chlorella? If not i think you should consider trying it for a week or two and see how you react.

I really hope your condition improves, all the best

I'm not using Chlorella. I'm going to follow the Cutler protocol which seems to have the highest percentage of recovery. Thanks for the kind comments though

Gilda Fortune

have you been away anywhere and possibly contracted malaria? or any foreign disease?

dlofnep

Gilda Fortune wrote: »

have you been away anywhere and possibly contracted malaria? or any foreign disease?

no.

dlofnep

Arg, real heavy brain fog tonight Time for sleep!

Splendour

dlofnep wrote: »

Perhaps the heat in Spain might have helped? I do feel very refreshed after a sauna, so the sweating might have helped clear toxins more than normal? Just an idea.

That thought naturally crossed my mind but have kept my broadband box off when I am in the house (apart from now!) and brain fog is not an issue. Last Sunday I met a friend for a coffee, came home and felt a bit odd, yet my broadband was unplugged. I rang the coffee shop and asked if they had wifi. Their reply 'yep'.
Totally up to you, but no harm in giving it a shot.

dlofnep

It has not been an issue from me, as I got brain fog on a camping trip. I manage mine with supplements, diet, and ensuring that I don't overload myself. Just about..

My DMSA should be here on Monday, so I'm going to begin chelation then using the Cutler protocol. I'm going to use DMSA for about 4-6 months, and then introduce ALA, chelating for a further year. Each week is a round - so I hope to see at least some improvements after 50 rounds, which is a year. From the stories I have been reading - most people have stated that they notice a very strong improvement by the 50th round.

I plan to do 75 rounds in total. I should have enough DMSA now for the first 6 months, but that all depends on my tolerance levels and dosage.

The battle begins Monday! I'm going to start a blog to keep track of my progress at some point this weekend.

Jim

dlofnep wrote: »

It has not been an issue from me, as I got brain fog on a camping trip. I manage mine with supplements, diet, and ensuring that I don't overload myself. Just about..

My DMSA should be here on Monday, so I'm going to begin chelation then using the Cutler protocol. I'm going to use DMSA for about 4-6 months, and then introduce ALA, chelating for a further year. Each week is a round - so I hope to see at least some improvements after 50 rounds, which is a year. From the stories I have been reading - most people have stated that they notice a very strong improvement by the 50th round.

I plan to do 75 rounds in total. I should have enough DMSA now for the first 6 months, but that all depends on my tolerance levels and dosage.

The battle begins Monday! I'm going to start a blog to keep track of my progress at some point this weekend.

Hey dlofnep,

Have you ever tried any of the Oxygen supplements? Such as Oxylift?

dlofnep

Jim wrote: »

Hey dlofnep,

Have you ever tried any of the Oxygen supplements? Such as Oxylift?

No, I don't need them. I'm beginning chelation with the Cutler protocol. I'm addressing the root cause of my problem, rather than subsequent problems. If my body was functioning correctly, I would not have these issues. It is because of the mercury toxicity. I'm certain of it - so until I address that, it will be futile to fight an uphill battle with the symptoms individually

alcomoholic

how did u contract mercury toxicity if you dont mind me asking??

ive followed the thread on an off for a few months. is this the diagnosis you finally got?
was it food contamination or what?

hope everything is going well for you anyway buddy, i had avian flu about two years ago when i was travelling and it was ****ing horrendous and that was only a few weeks of hell so i cant imagine what youre going through but honestly i wish you the best.

dlofnep

alcomoholic wrote: »

how did u contract mercury toxicity if you dont mind me asking??

The only logical cause is from amalgam fillings.

alphabeat

hi, i thought i might have a mercury problem
i had fogginess, lethargy , etc and burning back pains and kidneys pains in mornings.

i figured out it was due to a halogen bed side light , the transformer and cables sat under my bed- and where always plugged in .

soon as i removed it - no more problems .


think hard about what you have electrically near you in your sleep area
or where you spend a lot of your time ,

best of luck.

Jim

dlofnep wrote: »

No, I don't need them. I'm beginning chelation with the Cutler protocol. I'm addressing the root cause of my problem, rather than subsequent problems. If my body was functioning correctly, I would not have these issues. It is because of the mercury toxicity. I'm certain of it - so until I address that, it will be futile to fight an uphill battle with the symptoms individually

Yea, the reason I ask is I think I may have a very similar issue to you. All my life I've been given about a millions different ways to fight the symptoms.

I've never even thought about metal toxicity. I had mercury fillings when I was younger, as well as braces when I was a teenager (which is around about when these symptoms started!). I also have a permanent brace on the back of my front teeth.

I think I'll definitely look into getting tested and the brace removed.

LegacyUser

Hi,

I just stumbeld accross this thread. I am in the same situation, 29, with mercury toxicity, attended Dr McKenna a few years ago, got my fillings which were leaking mercury removed in kilkenny and did DMSA chelation. I have mostly the same symptoms as dlofnep. I went to a gastro doctor again last week as I am really fed up to be once again told I have slow transitory bowel or IBS. My difference is I got my fillings in primary school and can at this stage not remember what it feels like to feel "normal".

dlofnep

Jim wrote: »

Yea, the reason I ask is I think I may have a very similar issue to you. All my life I've been given about a millions different ways to fight the symptoms.

I've never even thought about metal toxicity. I had mercury fillings when I was younger, as well as braces when I was a teenager (which is around about when these symptoms started!). I also have a permanent brace on the back of my front teeth.

I think I'll definitely look into getting tested and the brace removed.

Unless your braces are made from a toxic element, I can't see how that would occur. However, if you had amalgam fillings with mercury - then yes, it certainly could.

dlofnep

Began chelation today using the Cutler protocol. Taking 12.5mg doses of DMSA every 4 hours, which I plan to keep up for 3 months. I'm then going to introduce ALA and keep up 3-hour doses of that for about 50 rounds.

The battle begins now!

anodic

Hi,

I just stumbeld accross this thread. I am in the same situation, 29, with mercury toxicity, attended Dr McKenna a few years ago, got my fillings which were leaking mercury removed in kilkenny and did DMSA chelation. I have mostly the same symptoms as dlofnep. I went to a gastro doctor again last week as I am really fed up, to be once again told I have slow transitory bowel or IBS. My difference is I got my fillings in primary school and can at this stage not remember what it feels like to feel "normal".

dlofnep

anodic wrote: »

Hi,

I just stumbeld accross this thread. I am in the same situation, 29, with mercury toxicity, attended Dr McKenna a few years ago, got my fillings which were leaking mercury removed in kilkenny and did DMSA chelation. I have mostly the same symptoms as dlofnep. I went to a gastro doctor again last week as I am really fed up, to be once again told I have slow transitory bowel or IBS. My difference is I got my fillings in primary school and can at this stage not remember what it feels like to feel "normal".

Have you looked at the Cutler protocol? That's what I'm on right now and seems to have the best success. My understanding is that DMSA alone will only lower the immediate mercury in your system, but will not cross the blood-brain barrier.

You would at some point need to introduce ALA according to Dr. Cutler to cross the blood-brain barrier, to chelate the mercury from your brain.

It is recommended to use low doses with frequent use. For the DMSA, 12.5mg's every 4 hours (including sleep), to start off with. ALA doses are similar, but taken every 3 hours. I've read a number of cases of people returning to full health or 90% of their health within around 50 rounds (about a year).

dlofnep

PS: I have started a blog if anyone wants to follow my chelation progress here: http://rejectmercury.blogspot.com/

anodic

I didn't have a name on the method I used but ALA was used to cross the blood brain barrier. It was 3 years ago so I can't remember off the top of my head but McKenna is an excellent doctor. I was at the dentist, McCollam in Kilkenny last week and he said that McKenna is not practicing now due to ill health, I don't know if this is true, hopefully not. I also took selenium, zinc, glutamine, vitamin C, vitamin E, grapeseed extract, chlorella and numerous other supplements but as I said I'd have to look up my notes to remember exactly what I took and when. I haven't returned to McKenna in a long time as I was unemployed for ages and moved to England for work. Remember to take a really good multivitamin for a few months after your DMSA as it strips your body of its minerals and stay on chlorella.

dlofnep

Yes, I also saw Bill McCollam in Kilkenny. Great guy and very knowledgeable.

anodic

Lovely, lovely man as is McKenna. He had a list of my symptoms from when I first went to him 3 years ago and went through each one to check how I am feeling now. But he's been through it himself so he knows the story. He replaced all my fillings and did an excellent job and when I went back last week for a checkup everything was still fine thankfully.

opinion guy

How you doing dlofnep ?

dlofnep

I've been better. Stabbed myself in the hand the other night, was shooting out blood like a volcano Can't use the sauna or go swimming until it's healed. Starting my 2nd round of DMSA today.

opinion guy

dlofnep wrote: »

I've been better. Stabbed myself in the hand the other night, was shooting out blood like a volcano Can't use the sauna or go swimming until it's healed. Starting my 2nd round of DMSA today.

:eek:

Err...try to avoid stabbing yourself!

kangaroo

opinion guy wrote: »

:eek:

Err...try to avoid stabbing yourself!

You shouldn't give medical advice.

dlofnep

opinion guy wrote: »

:eek:

Err...try to avoid stabbing yourself!

I'll keep that in mind.

I was trying to open a tin can, and the tin-opener slipped and punctured my hand. Pretty sore.

cltt97

The benefits of eating fresh food are manifold :-)

dlofnep

cltt97 wrote: »

The benefits of eating fresh food are manifold :-)

Indeed! I finally found a can of soup that I could have, only to be attacked by a tin opener. I had my soup when I got back from the hospital. It was the nicest bowl of soup ever.

Hal Emmerich

Charcoal and Bentonite Clay for heavy metal removal.

There's other sites.

dlofnep

Hal Emmerich wrote: »

Charcoal and Bentonite Clay for heavy metal removal.

There's other sites.

Charcoal doesn't cross the blood-brain barrier, so I can't see it rectifying the problem. It's useful to bind to immediate mercury in the system, for example - when you have an amalgam filling replaced - but beyond that, I can't see any long-term use for it. DMSA and ALA is much more effective in my view.

Splendour

Apparently one of the best ways of removing toxic metals from the body coriander/cilantro as it crosses the blood- brain barrier. Doesn't cost the earth either!

http://www.healthdiaries.com/eatthis/cilantro-chelation-therapy-heavy-metal-detox.html

I'm still free from brain fog if I keep away from broadband :rolleyes:

dlofnep

I'll stick with DMSA/ALA. I'm aware of cilantro/chlorella - but I haven't seen any cases where it has restored someone's health completely. I'm using the Cutler protocol and I'm not veering away from it - so I'm happy with what I'm doing.

dlofnep

Finished my 2nd round of the Cutler protocol today. Went very smooth - no problems as such. Updated my blog also.

amdublin

Would you try bikram yoga?

It is like yoga in a sauna. Amazing for removing toxins from your body. And recleansing and revitalising organs and joints.

Great for the psyche as well - you feel wonderful after it.

dlofnep

I'm ok The Sauna is enough - it's the sweating that gets the toxins out. I do a bit of yoga from time to time at home to try and relax a bit more though!

Updated my blog - Round 3 complete of the Cutler protocol: http://rejectmercury.blogspot.com/

opinion guy

Someone smashed your car ??? Man you are having a run of bad luck.

dlofnep

opinion guy wrote: »

Someone smashed your car ??? Man you are having a run of bad luck.

Yup And they drove off. Now I have to pay for the damage cos I don't want to ruin my no claims bonus.

amdublin

amdublin wrote: »

Would you try bikram yoga?

It is like yoga in a sauna. Amazing for removing toxins from your body. And recleansing and revitalising organs and joints.

Great for the psyche as well - you feel wonderful after it.

dlofnep wrote: »

I'm ok The Sauna is enough - it's the sweating that gets the toxins out. I do a bit of yoga from time to time at home to try and relax a bit more though!

Updated my blog - Round 3 complete of the Cutler protocol: http://rejectmercury.blogspot.com/

Well the bikram removes the toxins via both the sweating and the compression and releasing positions (the compression creates a tourniquet effect and the release floods your body with fresh oxygenated blood thus flushing out toxins).

Plus helps you relax.
Win win!

Sure why wouldn't you try it at least?!