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Do ye really believe in these theories?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    meglome wrote: »
    the greatest irony is the people who shout loudest for the truth seem to want it the least.

    nail/head.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,835 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    meglome wrote: »
    You know I've really tried to ignore the shots you had at me, i really have. I haven't had any sort of 'go' at you whatsoever. I simply pointed out the fact that you made that response about what i said and less about what you thought about CT's generally.

    I get so ****ing tired to listening to being told I'm just slagging off and not discussing. If I give my opinion on something I don't start to cry if someone disagrees with it, I don't assume they are paid to disagree with me, I don't call them sheeple etc. Some people need irony lessons.

    If something makes no sense then it makes no sense. If something has no evidence then it has no evidence. I mean a weather control device that cannot be shown to work on the weather is then responsible for an earthquake that was expected on a known fault line... give me a ****ing break. There's a creative writing forum if people wanna tell a nice story that has no basis in reality but don't expect me to sit here and take it as fact, when it clearly isn't. And believe me I've noticed this is a conspiracy theory's forum but they should still make a lick of sense.

    And the greatest irony is the people who shout loudest for the truth seem to want it the least.

    I never said you had a go at me personally, I was talking about how you refered the people who take an interest in CT's. I aplogise if you feel I've offended you, but to be fair, after two days since since you lasted posted in this thread you came back quoting me having a go at some back seat modding in the process.

    I know I'm in danger of sounding like a broken record, but if you've got such a problem with these theories why do you expend so much energy discussing them?
    We all know they don't stand up when viewed through conventional logic and that so obvious it's hardly worth pointing out.

    As you mentioned, there is a creative writing forum, there is also a sceptics forum, far be it from me to tell people which forums to post in.
    I cant get my head around certain topics and those who believe in them (religion being my primary annoyance), but I don't take it upon myself to become a keyboard warrior in the war against other peoples differing beliefs.

    I don't for one minute believe that everyone should agree with each other, I do however think that subjects should be discussed on merit as oppossed to whether or not they hold water.

    As I said before if you've got a problem with me send me a PM instead of clogging the thread with this tit for tat crap.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,976 ✭✭✭profitius


    meglome wrote: »
    If I give my opinion on something I don't start to cry if someone disagrees with it, I don't assume they are paid to disagree with me, I don't call them sheeple etc. Some people need irony lessons.


    Calling people sheeple isn't an insult. Its a funny word to describe the masses of people who are easily led.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭meglome


    nullzero wrote: »
    I never said you had a go at me personally, I was talking about how you refered the people who take an interest in CT's. I aplogise if you feel I've offended you, but to be fair, after two days since since you lasted posted in this thread you came back quoting me having a go at some back seat modding in the process.

    Again i didn't have a go at you whatsoever, although i hold up my hand on some potential back seat modding.
    nullzero wrote: »
    Thanks my friend, sadly it wasn't a sentiment echoed by the powers that be.

    You seemed to feel hard done by when there had been repeated warnings not to do what you did. I simply pointed that out to you.
    profitius wrote: »
    Calling people sheeple isn't an insult. Its a funny word to describe the masses of people who are easily led.

    So are we now saying 'funny' words for CT'ers are acceptable in here too? Cause I don't seem to recall them being acceptable to CT'ers before.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    profitius wrote: »
    Calling people sheeple isn't an insult. Its a funny word to describe the masses of people who are easily led.

    :rolleyes:

    When I ask if you're wearing your tinfoil hat, at least I'm being honest about the insult. Are you, by the way?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    profitius wrote: »
    Calling people sheeple isn't an insult. Its a funny word to describe the masses of people who are easily led.

    Like people who are easily lead by the nonsense of David Icke or Alex Jones?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,976 ✭✭✭profitius


    Like people who are easily lead by the nonsense of David Icke or Alex Jones?

    The difference is those people don't follow the crowds and actually think for themselves usually. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭TalkieWalkie


    A mere 33 conspiracy theories that came true, the likes of Alex Jones, David Icke warned about..
    [URL="http://newworldorderreport.com/News/tabid/266/ID/980/33-Conspiracy-Theories-That-Turned-Out-To-Be-True-What-Every-Person-Should-Know.aspx"]http://newworldorderreport.com/News/tabid/266/ID/980/33-Conspiracy-Theories-That-Turned-Out-To-Be-True-What-Every-Person-Should-Know.aspx[/URL]
    

    And you didn't even know it was a theory :rolleyes:

    Go back to sleep...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    A mere 33 conspiracy theories that came true, the likes of Alex Jones, David Icke warned about..
    [URL="http://newworldorderreport.com/News/tabid/266/ID/980/33-Conspiracy-Theories-That-Turned-Out-To-Be-True-What-Every-Person-Should-Know.aspx"]http://newworldorderreport.com/News/tabid/266/ID/980/33-Conspiracy-Theories-That-Turned-Out-To-Be-True-What-Every-Person-Should-Know.aspx[/URL]
    

    And you didn't even know it was a theory :rolleyes:

    Go back to sleep...

    Wow - the NWO 'turned out to be true'?! Stop the presses! :rolleyes:

    And Bohemian Grove is a real rich oul' lads club in the forest? That's some proven conspiracy there!

    The usual CT quality control on facts and supposition at play - what a surprise.

    I also note that neither Alex Jones or David Icke feature in any sense in exposing those conspiracies that were actual, rather than imagined. Anyone got any evidence of either man actually exposing anything of proven value over their years of venting, or is hot air their sole stock in trade?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭FREETV


    I will believe it when I see it! Is it more utter s###e? You decide for yourselves. In your opinion is there anything to disclose? Are these ideas/theories/facts delusional or are people quoted on these sites out to make a fast buck?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭TalkieWalkie


    alastair wrote: »

    I also note that neither Alex Jones or David Icke feature in any sense in exposing those conspiracies that were actual, rather than imagined. Anyone got any evidence of either man actually exposing anything of proven value over their years of venting, or is hot air their sole stock in trade?

    There are many. Here is one I like. I'll post more when I have more time..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    Now I don't mean to troll or upset anybody. I am not a conspiracy theorist/believer.

    I am genuienly interested: Do ye actually believe that Gates and Rockerfeller are trying to take over the world and wipe out hundreds of millions/billions? That giant lizard men are running the world? That there is a planet X in opposite orbit to ours and the government is hiding it for some reason? That the government is controlling us with mindwaves etc?

    I don't mean to p*ss anyone off and am not trying to raise an argument. I don't want replies from non CT slagging them off. I'm not interested in being converted or anything, I'm just curious.

    If the mods concider this a troll please delete it.


    I posted something very similar a while ago. I find it a little strange, I mean take the freeman stuff for instance, a huge thread and an entire website dedicated to something with no basis in law, and not a single case number can be given where has been used as a successful defence.

    Deep down I don't think children really believe in Santa, and if they sat down and thought about it rationally they certainly wouldn't. But believing in him does make life more interesting for them.


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    What a complete waste of time this thread is.

    So many people are so quick to judge but to me it just exposes their basic ignorance of history beyond leaving-cert textbooks and and a couple of Discovery channel programmes.

    They haven't looked beyond the CT mainstream past (IMO the disinfo) of gatekeepers Jones and Icke. Job done. Crazy ramblings. Nothing of value here. Move back into the warmth of the consensus. No thinking required. I have my mainstream media to tell me what to think and my programming to make me think that they are my thoughts. Doublethink. All is well.

    Hope you all enjoy your Sunday drives and your barbecues while people are being slaughtered as we speak.


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    Deep down I don't think children really believe in Santa, and if they sat down and thought about it rationally they certainly wouldn't.

    Possibly the most depressing post I have ever seen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    They haven't looked beyond the CT mainstream past (IMO the disinfo) of gatekeepers Jones and Icke. Job done. Crazy ramblings. Nothing of value here. Move back into the warmth of the consensus.

    That reminds me actually, this video was posted in that freeman thread, and supposedly this guy is a prominent CT expert, yet (and you can easily check this out yourself) almost everything he says is a blatant lie. How does he maintain any credibility?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭joe12345


    I posted something very similar a while ago. I find it a little strange, I mean take the freeman stuff for instance, a huge thread and an entire website dedicated to something with no basis in law, and not a single case number can be given where has been used as a successful defence.

    Deep down I don't think children really believe in Santa, and if they sat down and thought about it rationally they certainly wouldn't. But believing in him does make life more interesting for them.

    Its nothing got to do with Santa thats silly. :D

    As has been said here already, the gist of it is that so many people
    are dissillusioned with the constant lies spewed from what is refered
    to as the 'main-stream-media' that they look elsewhere for information.
    You can't really blame them really if you look at the history of corrupt
    politicians in Ireland.

    I'm not saying that their are stupid or way out conspiracy theorys, yes
    there are i don't doubt it. But if thats what people want to believe that
    whats the problem? After all there are how many billion people that
    believe in god, that man in the sky with a beard that there is no proof
    of. Yet I dont stand outsdie a church and mock and laugh at them for
    doing so. But its socially acceptable in a catholic country. However say
    you belive UFO/ET phenomenon is real (of which there is much more
    evidence) and you are consigned to the luni bin. Not fair really is it?

    The history of politicans lieing and seeing war after was and all the
    propaganda that goes with it, i think people are right to question,
    research something and make up their own minds. Not just rabbit the
    offical version of everything that comes out of their tv sets?

    Yes, its not easy filtering out all the bull**** on the internet. I agree
    that their is a lot of crap on it. However their is also some brilliant
    independant research to be found also, that is not filtered as is the
    case with most mainstream journalists. Of you course you can't
    generalise there are some good ones but few and far between in
    my opinion.

    As for the freeman site i'm not a member. As far as i can tell its people
    who believe been born gives them the right to be free and not live
    under all these man made laws which makes up the system. If thats
    it I can see their point in fairness :D

    Finally as said i hate the word 'conspiracy theory' anyway. I deal in facts
    and thats it. There is a lot of hard evidence to show all is not right in
    the world. A few months back for instance, people like Henry Kissinger
    and David Rockerfeller conversing with Irish taoiseach and irish president..
    men who are responsible for many many deaths. Chilean Coup d'etat of
    1973 for example with Kissinger as US secretary of state resulted in the
    deaths of many people. A little research will tell you this. Im not talking
    about any new world order or anything like that im just talking about
    history. But yet nothing in the media regarding the visit to Ireland of
    these murderers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,835 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    meglome wrote: »
    Again i didn't have a go at you whatsoever, although i hold up my hand on some potential back seat modding.



    You seemed to feel hard done by when there had been repeated warnings not to do what you did. I simply pointed that out to you.



    So are we now saying 'funny' words for CT'ers are acceptable in here too? Cause I don't seem to recall them being acceptable to CT'ers before.


    I said you didn't have a go at me personally. Why did you quote me just to back up what I said? I was taking issue with way you were talking about the "other side".

    I don't feel hard done by at all.
    I'm under no illusions that this is some sort of democratic environment where everyone is an equal, that clearly isn't the case, boards.ie is a private comapny and if they want to allow what goes on in this forum to continue then those who wish to discuss CT's will either have to adapt or just leave and find somewhere else to discuss these topics.

    There was one warning issued not repeated warnings and as we already touched on with your back seat modding, it isn't your place to point it out to me.

    Insults are not accpetable in any context. Be they used against a "CTer" or a sceptic.
    I don't know where you got the idea that I would defend the rights of one group and not the other. That's completely stupid and I feel that your thinking that about me is a huge insult but thats another issue altogether.

    As I said before if you want to continue this discussion contact me by PM.
    If you continue to reply to me on the thread I'll keep relpying on the thread. As far as I'm concerned our argument has no place in the context of the thread, the onus is on you to start using PM's I feel as I have a right to reply to these inflamitory (but perfectly within the rules) posts you're making towards me. The ball's in your court.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,835 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    Deep down I don't think children really believe in Santa, and if they sat down and thought about it rationally they certainly wouldn't. But believing in him does make life more interesting for them.

    Coming from a moderator that is the single worst post I've ever seen on boards.ie

    You really should know better, you've just knowingly insulted a huge portion of this forum's user base, you should be ashamed of yourself.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,835 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    joe12345 wrote: »
    Its nothing got to do with Santa thats silly. :D

    As has been said here already, the gist of it is that so many people
    are dissillusioned with the constant lies spewed from what is refered
    to as the 'main-stream-media' that they look elsewhere for information.
    You can't really blame them really if you look at the history of corrupt
    politicians in Ireland.

    I'm not saying that their are stupid or way out conspiracy theorys, yes
    there are i don't doubt it. But if thats what people want to believe that
    whats the problem? After all there are how many billion people that
    believe in god, that man in the sky with a beard that there is no proof
    of. Yet I dont stand outsdie a church and mock and laugh at them for
    doing so. But its socially acceptable in a catholic country. However say
    you belive UFO/ET phenomenon is real (of which there is much more
    evidence) and you are consigned to the luni bin. Not fair really is it?

    The history of politicans lieing and seeing war after was and all the
    propaganda that goes with it, i think people are right to question,
    research something and make up their own minds. Not just rabbit the
    offical version of everything that comes out of their tv sets?

    Yes, its not easy filtering out all the bull**** on the internet. I agree
    that their is a lot of crap on it. However their is also some brilliant
    independant research to be found also, that is not filtered as is the
    case with most mainstream journalists. Of you course you can't
    generalise there are some good ones but few and far between in
    my opinion.

    As for the freeman site i'm not a member. As far as i can tell its people
    who believe been born gives them the right to be free and not live
    under all these man made laws which makes up the system. If thats
    it I can see their point in fairness :D

    Finally as said i hate the word 'conspiracy theory' anyway. I deal in facts
    and thats it. There is a lot of hard evidence to show all is not right in
    the world. A few months back for instance, people like Henry Kissinger
    and David Rockerfeller conversing with Irish taoiseach and irish president..
    men who are responsible for many many deaths. Chilean Coup d'etat of
    1973 for example with Kissinger as US secretary of state resulted in the
    deaths of many people. A little research will tell you this. Im not talking
    about any new world order or anything like that im just talking about
    history. But yet nothing in the media regarding the visit to Ireland of
    these murderers.

    By sceptic logic you're a lunatic for taking an interest in these things.

    As you rightly pointed out, it is possible to be a rational person and take an interest in these topics.

    Glazers Out!



  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    That reminds me actually, this video was posted in that freeman thread, and supposedly this guy is a prominent CT expert

    Actually, and with respect, if you knew what you were talking about you would realise that Jordan Maxwell (his pseudonym) is a shill who talks about underground alien bunkers and the like. Controlled opposition, who tries to lead the well intentioned but naive into occult worship in the same vein as Rosicrucian Michael Tsarion - their theosophist ideologies are no different than the secret societies they "expose".

    EDIT: Don't take this the wrong way but that is the crux of the issue here really. You and your ilk don't understand what it is you are rubbishing, it is all based on generalisations and assumptions and basing your views on "conspiracy theorists" on the media creation of a conspiracy theorist, likewise your instant dismissal of anything labelled a "conspiracy theory" is likewise (unconsciously) rubbished without any critical thinking - hence the sheeple label.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,835 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    Actually, and with respect, if you knew what you were talking about you would realise that Jordan Maxwell (his pseudonym) is a shill who talks about underground alien bunkers and the like. Controlled opposition, who tries to lead the well intentioned but naive into occult worship in the same vein as Rosicrucian Michael Tsarion - their theosophist ideologies are no different than the secret societies they "expose".

    To be fair the "evidence" for Tsarion being a rosicrucian is about as reliable as that which calims David Icke is a freemason, youtube debunker style stuff.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    Actually, and with respect, if you knew what you were talking about you would realise that Jordan Maxwell (his pseudonym) is a shill who talks about underground alien bunkers and the like. Controlled opposition, who tries to lead the well intentioned but naive into occult worship in the same vein as Rosicrucian Michael Tsarion - their theosophist ideologies are no different than the secret societies they "expose".

    EDIT: Don't take this the wrong way but that is the crux of the issue here really. You and your ilk don't understand what it is you are rubbishing, it is all based on generalisations and assumptions and basing your views on "conspiracy theorists" on the media creation of a conspiracy theorist, likewise your instant dismissal of anything labelled a "conspiracy theory" is likewise (unconsciously) rubbished without any critical thinking - hence the sheeple label.

    Well, you didn't highlight the word "supposedly" in my post, I was relying on what Mahatma Coat told me, I've no interest in who's prominent in CT circles, that single video was enough for me to know he's a nutcase.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,835 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    Well, you didn't highlight the word "supposedly" in my post, I was relying on what Mahatma Coat told me, I've no interest in who's prominent in CT circles, that single video was enough for me to know he's a nutcase.

    Thats the scientific method in action so.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    There are many. Here is one I like. I'll post more when I have more time..


    I'd like to see Icke test his theory that our matrix and the atomic densitys within are only a product of our consciousness, and could be manipulated if we free ourselves from such limits. How would he feel about being rendered unconscious and dropped from a great height onto the 'hard and solid' mass that is the ground - should be no bother to a man unencumbered by the constraints of limited consciousness.

    Oh, and Icke's merely wrapping a bit of topical (and published) scientific thinking up in the tinfoil of lunacy - no revelation there I'm afraid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,835 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    alastair wrote: »
    I'd like to see Icke test his theory that our matrix and the atomic densitys within are only a product of our consciousness, and could be manipulated if we free ourselves from such limits. How would he feel about being rendered unconscious and dropped from a great height onto the 'hard and solid' mass that is the ground - should be no bother to a man unencumbered by the constraints of limited consciousness.

    Oh, and Icke's merely wrapping a bit of topical (and published) scientific thinking up in the tinfoil of lunacy - no revelation there I'm afraid.

    I'd take Icke's theory more seriously than some individual on the interent who I can only assume is motivated by opinion rather than evidence or research into the topic at hand.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭FREETV


    nullzero wrote: »
    I'd take Icke's theory more seriously than some individual on the interent who I can only assume is motivated by opinion rather than evidence or research into the topic at hand.
    What about that mad lizard, shapeshifting s..t that I heard he has spoken about? Seems ludicrous to me. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,976 ✭✭✭profitius


    alastair wrote: »
    I'd like to see Icke test his theory that our matrix and the atomic densitys within are only a product of our consciousness, and could be manipulated if we free ourselves from such limits. How would he feel about being rendered unconscious and dropped from a great height onto the 'hard and solid' mass that is the ground - should be no bother to a man unencumbered by the constraints of limited consciousness.

    In theory its possible but its a skill that would need alot of practise. Its like asking Beckham to score 50 free kicks in a row. The chances of doing it are very slim but its not to say its impossible.


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    nullzero wrote: »
    To be fair the "evidence" for Tsarion being a rosicrucian is about as reliable as that which calims David Icke is a freemason, youtube debunker style stuff.

    This wasn't easy to find but this is from the biography section of his own site via the wayback machine.
    I also became involved with Rosicrucian and Sufi Orders...
    He has been affiliated with the Paul Solomon Foundation of Virginia, the Rosicrucian Order, the Naqsbaandi Sufi Order

    http://web.archive.org/web/20060224053719/http://www.taroscopes.com/personalpages/whosismichael.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 831 ✭✭✭IrelandSpirit


    I posted something very similar a while ago. I find it a little strange, I mean take the freeman stuff for instance, a huge thread and an entire website dedicated to something with no basis in law, and not a single case number can be given where has been used as a successful defence.

    Deep down I don't think children really believe in Santa, and if they sat down and thought about it rationally they certainly wouldn't. But believing in him does make life more interesting for them.

    LOL! Nah, wait, seriously - then why isn't the entire Religion Forum classed as CT?

    Ok, how about:

    'Now I don't mean to troll or upset anybody. I am not a conspiracy theorist/believer in God

    I am genuinely interested: Do ye actually believe that Satan and His demons are trying to take over the world and steal hundreds of millions/billions of souls? That Jesus will return to run the world? That there is a parallel dimension called Hell in opposite orbit to ours and the Church will save us for some reason? That the Church is not controlling us with bronze age fairy tales of prophets parting oceans with supernatural powers etc?

    I don't mean to p*ss anyone off and am not trying to raise an argument. I don't want replies from the non religious slagging them off. I'm not interested in being converted or anything, I'm just curious.

    If the mods consider this a troll please delete it.


    P.S Deep down I don't think children really believe in God, and if they sat down and thought about it rationally they certainly wouldn't. But believing in him does make life more interesting for them.'


    Now, serious question, what kind of mod would let me start a thread like this in the Religion forum (or anywhere) and actually post and endorse it in the derogatory manner you do? Oh, yeah right, phantom-lord would!

    Of course. Well then, seeing as it's perfectly ok by the mods, then that's exactly what I'm gonna do, and I invite anybody here who's interested to come along. Don't worry, you won't get infractions or banned, it's gonna be great fun.

    (Wouldn't last five fecking minutes, would it?)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭joe12345


    FREETV wrote: »
    What about that mad lizard, shapeshifting s..t that I heard he has spoken about? Seems ludicrous to me. :)

    How deeply have you actually looked into the subject? Read any books on
    it or just dismissed it out of hand as impossible?

    After all the research i've done I know that the ET/UFO phenomenon is
    REAL. So, i ask is it a stretch to consider some of those could be
    reptilian?

    Secondly, there are numerous researchers that have the same conclusion
    as Icke . plus it's only one of the many things that he talks about. Even if
    the reptilian stuff is not for you it is only a fraction of the information he
    provides. Sure, he could be wrong about some things he is human. But
    he has done a massive amount of research and had faced a serious
    amount of ridicule to dare question the norms that we live in!

    As far as the reptiles i'm undecided. But, to begin to comprehend it I
    would recommend to read the work of Zakaria Sitchin and understand
    who the 'annunaki' were. Then investigate how the blocks of stone at
    'puma punka' got made, the 'bolders of balbek' came to be and even the
    hundreds of fifty foot tall statues are 'Easter Island' came to be. :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭FREETV


    joe12345 wrote: »
    How deeply have you actually looked into the subject? Read any books on
    it or just dismissed it out of hand as impossible?

    After all the research i've done I know that the ET/UFO phenomenon is
    REAL. So, i ask is it a stretch to consider some of those could be
    reptilian?

    Secondly, there are numerous researchers that have the same conclusion
    as Icke . plus it's only one of the many things that he talks about. Even if
    the reptilian stuff is not for you it is only a fraction of the information he
    provides. Sure, he could be wrong about some things he is human. But
    he has done a massive amount of research and had faced a serious
    amount of ridicule to dare question the norms that we live in!

    As far as the reptiles i'm undecided. But, to begin to comprehend it I
    would recommend to read the work of Zakaria Sitchin and understand
    who the 'annunaki' were. Then investigate how the blocks of stone at
    'puma punka' got made, the 'bolders of balbek' came to be and even the
    hundreds of fifty foot tall statues are 'Easter Island' came to be. :D
    If he is supposedly being guided by so called spirit guides :rolleyes: then surely he cannot make mistakes and be wrong about things. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    profitius wrote: »
    In theory its possible but its a skill that would need alot of practise. Its like asking Beckham to score 50 free kicks in a row. The chances of doing it are very slim but its not to say its impossible.

    I'm prepared to let him practice as often and long as he likes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    nullzero wrote: »
    I'd take Icke's theory more seriously than some individual on the interent who I can only assume is motivated by opinion rather than evidence or research into the topic at hand.

    So, Icke has evidence that his thesis (opinion) is proven? Nope.

    Feel free to lap up his lunacy, but let's not pretend that his 'research' is anything more than self obsession.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    i think it's interesting that you guys constantly feel the need to compare yourselves to people with religious beliefs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭TalkieWalkie


    alastair wrote: »
    So, Icke has evidence that his thesis (opinion) is proven? Nope.

    Feel free to lap up his lunacy, but let's not pretend that his 'research' is anything more than self obsession.

    Fact that Michio Kaku backs it up is pretty solid. But remember, even GRAVITY is still a theory. These type of theories are next to impossible to prove.

    Especially when there are so many top class skeppies such as yourself hanging around. :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭TalkieWalkie


    i think it's interesting that you guys constantly feel the need to compare yourselves to people with religious beliefs.

    The guys asked me to tell you that they are happy that you are interested to know that they constantly compare themselves to people with religious beliefs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 831 ✭✭✭IrelandSpirit


    i think it's interesting that you guys constantly feel the need to compare yourselves to people with religious beliefs.

    Is that meant to be sarcasm? Are not all forums created equal?

    Why then, why, oh why ... How long must we suffer the indignities of the fluoridated minions of the state?

    Save us, oh mighty God! Send a redeemer Mod to the CT threads of boards.ie! Bring forth the One True Mod of fair and balanced character, with open mind, quick wit, and compassion for our genuine desire to gain knowledge in debate.

    Let us pray: The right hand of boards.ie is exalted: the right hand of the One True Mod doeth valiantly! (:eek:) The thread shall not die, but live, and declare the works of all CT! :)

    The Mod hath chastened me sore (:eek:): but he will not given my post over unto death. :)

    Open to me the forums of righteousness! I will go into them,and I will praise this thread, into which the righteous shall enter. I will praise thee: for thou hast heard me, and art become my salivation post ... I mean salvation.


    The post which the Boards refused is become the head forum of the corner. This is the Mods doing; itis marvellous in our eyes! This is the post which the One True Mod hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it.



    Save us now, I beseech thee, O Boards.ie: O boards.ie, I beseech thee, send now a true righteous Mod of Conspiracy!

    Amen (Ra)


    In all seriousness phantom-lord, there is far more evidence supporting the vast majority of CTs discussed here, than there is for the stuff the religion forums bang on about - and yet (presumably) you respect their threads. Why are you capable of trolling casting derogatory remarks here, and yet not there? Are not all forums created equal?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 831 ✭✭✭IrelandSpirit


    This wasn't easy to find but this is from the biography section of his own site via the wayback machine.





    http://web.archive.org/web/20060224053719/http://www.taroscopes.com/personalpages/whosismichael.html

    Well that's an 'impressive' CV! His background never really sunk in before, cheers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,835 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    i think it's interesting that you guys constantly feel the need to compare yourselves to people with religious beliefs.

    I think it's interesting that you're allowed to flaunt your superiority complex here.
    The comment you made yesterday that I reported was totally disrespectful towards a huge amount of users of this forum. You're a mod on this site and yet you feel it's fine to act in that way, you're a disgrace.

    Glazers Out!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,835 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    This wasn't easy to find but this is from the biography section of his own site via the wayback machine.





    http://web.archive.org/web/20060224053719/http://www.taroscopes.com/personalpages/whosismichael.html


    I have heard him speak about the Rosicrucians in the past, in a not very complimentary fashion and he also addressed how he investigated them closely and thus became a target for "he's a rosicrcuian" type slurs.
    Maybe he is a double agent, so to speak, I wouldn't be convinced of that myself but you can only listen to what these speakers say and take what you want from it yourslef.
    I don't think I've ever seen any researchers in this field that have never had accusations made about them being members of secret societies. You name someone in the conspiracy or truth movement and they've had these type of accusation made about them.
    It's up to the individual to make their own mind up at the end of the day.

    Glazers Out!



  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    nullzero wrote: »
    I have heard him speak about the Rosicrucians in the past, in a not very complimentary fashion and he also addressed how he investigated them closely and thus became a target for "he's a rosicrcuian" type slurs.
    Maybe he is a double agent, so to speak, I wouldn't be convinced of that myself but you can only listen to what these speakers say and take what you want from it yourslef.
    I don't think I've ever seen any researchers in this field that have never had accusations made about them being members of secret societies. You name someone in the conspiracy or truth movement and they've had these type of accusation made about them.
    It's up to the individual to make their own mind up at the end of the day.

    Yeah I get what you are saying. It is hard to know who and what to believe when there is so much misinformation flying around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,835 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    Yeah I get what you are saying. It is hard to know who and what to believe when there is so much misinformation flying around.

    Very true, we've never got the full picture.

    Glazers Out!



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 56 ✭✭kilmuckridge


    Very true, but some of the people on this very forum are perpetuating cover-ups.

    I have sought information about what may very well be a real life Irish conspiracy to protect certain individuals from prosecution for their criminal actions,
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056001865
    and had an established member post derogatory and blantantly incorrect remarks about my understanding of the situation, the same member who posted the same type of remarks about another aspect of the issue. Why would a member on this forum be so keen to stifle discussion of real conspiracies and cover-ups, or is the whole NWO designed to throw the scent off the likes of my target, as it brands all conspiracy theorists alike?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭TalkieWalkie


    You referring to mr Coat ? I think you may have it wrong mate :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Why would a member on this forum be so keen to stifle discussion of real conspiracies and cover-ups, or is the whole NWO designed to throw the scent off the likes of my target, as it brands all conspiracy theorists alike?

    It's clearly all about you - the NWO has stepped up a couple of gears to distract from the important business of the cows on the dunes.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭Jeboa Safari


    I don't believe any of the conspiracies posted by the op, but I come here because I find some of the theories interesting, like ufos and ancient astronauts, although I think ufo sightings are probably military planes. Skeptical of most theories but I like to look into them, and think some might have some merit.
    What annoys me about many conspiracy theorists on here and other sites is that they alot of their theories are based around anti-americanism and base their theories around that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,823 ✭✭✭WakeUp


    alastair wrote: »
    It's clearly all about you - the NWO has stepped up a couple of gears to distract from the important business of the cows on the dunes.

    :rolleyes: Stop being silly, imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 56 ✭✭kilmuckridge


    alastair wrote: »
    It's clearly all about you - the NWO has stepped up a couple of gears to distract from the important business of the cows on the dunes.

    I never said it was all about me, I just asked whether outlandish conspiracies were promulgated by people who were hiding other stuff or were involved in other conspiracies. I did not specifically mean me or my conspiracy of interest, but thousands of "small" scale conspiracies happening in REAL LIFE every day, like the countless episodes of cute-hoorism in awarding contracts.

    Oh and the anti american slant which does crop up further distracts from conspiracies at home


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭TalkieWalkie


    alastair won't be around for a while :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 831 ✭✭✭IrelandSpirit


    alastair won't be around for a while :D

    MIA, yeah! Hold on ... phantom-lord AND alastair, shhh! Did we hear wedding bells? Honeymoon? Or is that conspiracy ... sources! sources! hahaha :pac::D


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