Live Register Hits new High in Waterford

RobitTV

The Live Register in Waterford has hit a record high.

There are now 15,614 people signing on in the city and county, 366 more than in June.

The figure first hit the 15,000 mark in July last year before reducing slightly towards the winter.

Most of the major job losses announced in Waterford in the past two years are now factored into the figures but as the total edges towards 16,000 the scale of the effort needed in Waterford to recover from recession is starkly apparent.

Finnbar01

What's the precentage does anyone know?

Not The Real Scarecrow

County Waterford is located on the south-east coast of Ireland. The County has a population of 107,961 people. County Waterford saw a growth of 9.2 per cent in population in the period 2002-2006 period. 34.6 per cent of the population is under 25-years-old

http://www.udaras.ie/index.php/1555

So going on those figures its roughly 9% but thats for the county as a whole

Waterford City covers an area of 4,157 hectares and has a population of 50,000 living in the City and its suburbs. A further 150,000 people live within 50 kms of the City and commute the short distance to Waterford City to work, shop, participate in education and access the rich and varied cultural opportunities in the City. As a Gateway City , Waterford City can expect to continue to support a growing population.

http://www.waterfordbusinessinfo.ie/InvestingInWaterford/Waterford-City.asp

if its just the city though its around 32% which is high considering the national average is around 14%.

Now my figures could be totally wrong just going on drunken maths:)

merlante

While these interim figures often refer to regions, like the south east (in order to hide black spots imho), you can see from the cso.ie website that at the time of the 2006 census (height of the boom) Waterford city had the third highest rate of unemployment in the country at 12.6%, after Limerick city and Donegal. Now if you bear in mind that Limerick city, having a very small city council area, probably does not include the wealthier estates in the city, Waterford city could have been been the worst city area, and second worst city or county, in the country. Donegal had been recently hammered by the closure of Fruit of the Loom and a few very big employers.

If Waterford city was at 12.6% in 2006, where do you think it is at now? Doesn't bear thinking about. Of course, again, to publicise this sort of thing on a city and county basis would be mean that the government would have to actually do something about it. Makes me sick when you see the mount of FDI going into Galway and Cork even during the recession.

Psychedelic

WLR have the figures wrong.

There's 13,019 unemployed in Waterford City, which is nearly 30% of the city's population, and an even higher figure if you calculate it as a percentage of the actual workforce (i.e. total population minus children and OAPs).

There's 15,614 unemployed in Waterford County. Slightly higher than the city (city and county populations are around 50,000 each).

These figures are from the CSO: http://www.cso.ie/px/pxeirestat/database/eirestat/Live%20Register/Live%20Register.asp
(click Persons on Live Register (Number) by Social Welfare Office, Month, Sex and Age Group to get the figures for the city and county)

Partizan

Psychedelic wrote: »

WLR have the figures wrong.

There's 13,019 unemployed in Waterford City, which is nearly 30% of the city's population, and an even higher figure if you calculate it as a percentage of the actual workforce (i.e. total population minus children and OAPs).
There's 15,614 unemployed in Waterford County. Slightly higher than the city (city and county populations are around 50,000 each).

These figures are from the CSO: http://www.cso.ie/px/pxeirestat/database/eirestat/Live%20Register/Live%20Register.asp
(click Persons on Live Register (Number) by Social Welfare Office, Month, Sex and Age Group to get the figures for the city and county)

Also add in the numbers on the FAS courses and you are looking at in total 40% of the City population who are dependent on welfare.

daftdave

Partizan wrote: »

Also add in the numbers on the FAS courses and you are looking at in total 40% of the City population who are dependent on welfare.

jesus, thats shocking stuff altogether ...... thats bad, really bad

Nolanger

Don't forget the ones who need welfare but can't claim e.g. self-employed whose business closed down, people who've returned to Ireland recently and are not living here long enough, and people whose JBenefit expired and don't qualify for JAllowance.

daftdave

Nolanger wrote: »

Don't forget the ones who need welfare but can't claim e.g. self-employed whose business closed down, people who've returned to Ireland recently and are not living here long enough, and people whose JBenefit expired and don't qualify for JAllowance.

how long does somebody have to live outside of ireland before they are not entitled to social welfare when they return, and how long does it take to become entitled to social welfare upon return ??

im gone about a year and a half and possibly might be returning early 2011

any info would be appreciated ??

Finnbar01

Interesting chart: http://www.locus.ie/demos/Live%20register%20report%20July%202010/atlas.html

200motels

daftdave wrote: »

how long does somebody have to live outside of ireland before they are not entitled to social welfare when they return, and how long does it take to become entitled to social welfare upon return ??

im gone about a year and a half and possibly might be returning early 2011

any info would be appreciated ??

If I were you I wouldn't come back. This country is in a mess, stay where you are it can't be as bad as been back here under a right wing goverment.

Nolanger

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dayshah

Live register figures and unemployment figures are not the same. If you work one day a week you aren't counted as unemployed (so we probably have a big problem of underemployment).

Also to be counted as unemployed you must be actively seeking work. So lots of discouraged worker are not included (and people who returned to education or doing a FÁS course as someone mentioned).

gman2k

On a side note, I was talking to guy in Cahir last week (in his 20s) and he was headin off to Oz for a few weeks to holiday with his mates who are out there.
I asked him what sort of numbers are we talking about (numbers of lads gone out there).
He said that there was 13 of them who used to play football together on a Wednesday night - there are only 2 left.

What would be the actual unemployment figures be like if it wasn't for emigration???
Also +1 to the post above re people not entitled to SW. EG, all the self employed sub contractors in the building trade. I guess this grouping makes up the emigration figures....

Joey leBlanc

Jaysus, what a depressing thread! Some people just love their bit of misery, they can't function without it.