Stephen Ireland V James Milner

Reganio 2

Milner

curry-muff wrote: »

Thats the one thing I hate about this forum, Milner is better than Ireland by a country mile, because he is Irish, Ireland wins this poll.

Oh yes, this forum is a massive love in for Stephen Ireland, most of the posters on here would be willing to have Stephen Ireland's babies.

Cop on, even English managers and pundits say Shay Given is one of the best Goalkeepers in the Premiership. As for the difference between Ireland and Milner its minimal at best. I think Ireland is better and obviously many others do and that has nothing to do with him being Irish.

One thing I hate about this forum is people talking sh*te.

parker kent

Milner

noodler wrote: »

Christ. McGeady is an Excellent player in the SPL - not an average one.

We've all seen his shortcomings at international level and have doubts about him kicking onto a higher level but lets not ourtight lie here.

I did not say he was average in the SPL...I said he was an average player who played in the SPL. Big difference. He does OK up there but that does not mean he is not an average player.

parker kent

Milner

Reganio 2 wrote: »

Oh yes, this forum is a massive love in for Stephen Ireland, most of the posters on here would be willing to have Stephen Ireland's babies.

Cop on, even English managers and pundits say Shay Given is one of the best Goalkeepers in the Premiership. As for the difference between Ireland and Milner its minimal at best. I think Ireland is better and obviously many others do and that has nothing to do with him being Irish.

One thing I hate about this forum is people talking sh*te.

Agree big time with everything you say especially about Given.

I actually dread Stephen Ireland because of his situation with the national team. Him being Irish is actually a major reason why many here will not like him. If he refused to play for Bulgaria, he would not get the same bile as he now does. Lets not pretend that Stephen Ireland is overly liked in Ireland.

curry-muff

Reganio 2 wrote: »

Oh yes, this forum is a massive love in for Stephen Ireland, most of the posters on here would be willing to have Stephen Ireland's babies.

Cop on, even English managers and pundits say Shay Given is one of the best Goalkeepers in the Premiership. As for the difference between Ireland and Milner its minimal at best. I think Ireland is better and obviously many others do and that has nothing to do with him being Irish.

One thing I hate about this forum is people talking sh*te.

Im not saying there is, im just pointing out that every time Paddy Irishman comes up against Paddy Englishman, theres a landslide victory in favour of Paddy Irishman.

Not once have I said Given isn't a top keeper, just that at the time of the poll in question, there were many better options than him, eg Van der Sar, Reina and Cech all on the back of great seasons.

Take my post however you want but im not going to sit and humour you every time you throw your toys out of the pram.

noodler

curry-muff wrote: »

Im not saying there is, im just pointing out that every time Paddy Irishman comes up against Paddy Englishman, theres a landslide victory in favour of Paddy Irishman.

Not once have I said Given isn't a top keeper, just that at the time of the poll in question, there were many better options than him, eg Van der Sar, Reina and Cech all on the back of great seasons.

Take my post however you want but im not going to sit and humour you every time you throw your toys out of the pram.

Not so sure about Cech.

I'd prefer Reina to Given but I can be accused of double bias there.

I'd love if he went to Arsenal. Get to see him play in a good defense ala with Ireland and then we can put the "only good cos he has loads to do" argument to rest.

flahavaj

noodler wrote: »

Not so sure about Cech.

I'd prefer Reina to Given but I can be accused of double bias there.

I'd love if he went to Arsenal. Get to see him play in a good defense ala with Ireland and then we can put the "only good cos he has loads to do" argument to rest.

The jury is out on whether this current Arsenal defence is a good defence yet. They need a top centre half to partner Vermaelen for me and their full backs to return to the form they showed earlier in their Arsenal careers.

flahavaj

noodler wrote: »

Not so sure about Cech.

I'd prefer Reina to Given but I can be accused of double bias there.

I'd love if he went to Arsenal. Get to see him play in a good defense ala with Ireland and then we can put the "only good cos he has loads to do" argument to rest.

Reina's the best keeper in the Premiership, no ifs or bits about it - (and you can't accuse me of bias there) and a far more attractive prospect than Given when you consider their ages.

noodler

flahavaj wrote: »

The jury is out on whether this current Arsenal defence is a good defence yet. They need a top centre half to partner Vermaelen for me and their full backs to return to the form they showed earlier in their Arsenal careers.

See I think we need to thread carefully here. Its always been good enough for a top 4 finish.

You can argue til the cows come home as to how much is to do with the fact Arsenal are just plain better in attack and hence don't come under as much pressure but I think Given's clean sheets would increas hugely under a Wenger team.

flahavaj wrote: »

Reina's the best keeper in the Premiership, no ifs or bits about it - (and you can't accuse me of bias there) and a far more attractive prospect than Given when you consider their ages.

Yeah.

Reganio 2

Milner

curry-muff wrote: »

Im not saying there is, im just pointing out that every time Paddy Irishman comes up against Paddy Englishman, theres a landslide victory in favour of Paddy Irishman.

Not once have I said Given isn't a top keeper, just that at the time of the poll in question, there were many better options than him, eg Van der Sar, Reina and Cech all on the back of great seasons.

Take my post however you want but im not going to sit and humour you every time you throw your toys out of the pram.

When did I throw my toys out of the pram? I just used the same condescending style of posting that you did so if you want to go down that route you have to point the finger at yourself.

therokerroar

Irish player in winning a poll against an English player on boards.ie shocker :eek:

Milner's the better player.

Reganio 2

Milner

Irish player somehow being better than English player shocker :eek:

In your opinion Milner's better, in more people's opinion Ireland is better. Get over it.

LeBash

I think Milner is a better player overall. His work rate is certainly better.

Although Milner is very good at tracking back, on the ball and picking a pass, I think Ireland has a little more class about him when the ball is at his feet and he can look up.

I dont want to see Milner leave, but it would be a hard deal to turn down if MC are only rating Ireland at 8 Million and handing over 16-20 million with him.