Adrian Newey Crash

Ghost Train

Racing in Ginetta G50 series in Snetterton. Race was stopped and he's been taken off to hospital to be checked out. Hopefully no serious injuries

Grim.

not a very big crash hard hit though

amacachi

Didn't look too bad, but that's judging it no top-level stuff. Assuming they have HANS I can't imagine any proper injuries.

Monkeybonkers

LIGHTNING wrote: »

Completely off topic but all those incident all reek of amateur hour driving!

Lol, everyone's a critic :rolleyes:

homer simpson

Monkeybonkers wrote: »

Lol, everyone's a critic :rolleyes:

He may be a critic but i somehow feel he is qualified to be saying he works at mondello park racing school!

Monkeybonkers

homer_simpson wrote: »

He may be a critic but i somehow feel he is qualified to be saying he works at mondello park racing school!

Doesn't make him right

ianobrien

amacachi wrote: »

Didn't look too bad, but that's judging it no top-level stuff. Assuming they have HANS I can't imagine any proper injuries.

Don't assume that HANS stops serious injury. I know one person who broke his back in a competition car and he was wearing a HANS device!

homer simpson

Ficus wrote: »

Hans devices are to stop Basilar skull fractures from when the head whips forward in a sudden forward impact and the body doesnt. It has little effect in the reduction of injuries from side on impacts, as the head should be shielded enough not to allow it to move that far to either the left or right.

Thats all fine and well untill your in a car (hard top) and you roll and the roof comes in on you even a couple of inches could mean your head squeezes down on your neck / back and if you had no hans on you could simply tilt your head to avoid it, but with the hans you can only move your head very slightly.

It was introduced into F1 and works very well in single seater incidents but in certin dicipilines its should not be compulersy! would love to see stats on how may injuries it has caused!

donspeekinglesh

homer_simpson wrote: »

Thats all fine and well untill your in a car (hard top) and you roll and the roof comes in on you even a couple of inches could mean your head squeezes down on your neck / back and if you had no hans on you could simply tilt your head to avoid it, but with the hans you can only move your head very slightly.

It was introduced into F1 and works very well in single seater incidents but in certin dicipilines its should not be compulersy! would love to see stats on how may injuries it has caused!

Actually that was the reason people objected to its introduction in F1 - they were afraid of a repeat of Pedro Dinz's accident at the Nurburgring in 1999, where the roll hoop collapsed.

homer simpson

Ficus wrote: »

If your in that situation, and your roof comes in on you then your already in a bad way. Sure racing is dangerous and there is no safety system to protect against it all unless you hang up your helmet. As for how many accidents its caused, im sure its a fraction compared to the lives it has saved.
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I do Agree with you to an extent but my main point is that it is in the Rules now to use them on all Fia events in ireland, as far as im aware, and it works for some disiplines but not all of them. Take rallying for example you'd very very seldom hear of someone have a serious neck back injury as a result of an accident 5-6 years agobut since the introduction of hans devices its not common but deffinently a lot lot more common and 90% of the time the fingers are pointed towards the Hans device.

dcr22B

That's because HANS devices in closed top cars were designed with modern rally cars in mind and not smaller tighter spaces like you'd find in a Mk2, Twin Cam, Civic or Nova.

homer simpson

dcr22B wrote: »

That's because HANS devices in closed top cars were designed with modern rally cars in mind and not smaller tighter spaces like you'd find in a Mk2, Twin Cam, Civic or Nova.

Exactly but yet they are still forced to wear them! Anyways sorry for the off topic posts but still its a valid discussion.

donspeekinglesh

Ficus wrote: »

A rollhoop failure can happen at any level, yet its something that is so strenuously tested against nowadays that the odds are a lot less now compared to before, meaning that the odds of it saving you from a serious injury in a high speed accident are a lot less than it killing you in a roll hoop failure.

Absolutely.