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Anti American Rhetoric, why?

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  • #32
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,263 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Cmdr Keen wrote: »
    It seems to me that downright arrogance is at play with the whole anti-american lobby, maybe its fear that are the most powerful nation, oh and btw, a load of stupid ***** couldn't have produced the military hardware thats the awe of the world, or indeed have sent men to space...

    The Germans put the Americans in space.


  • #33
    [Deleted User]
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    Ush1 wrote: »
    That's what I'm getting at, the US are afraid to invade North Korea.

    I know the point your making and I agree fully.. The Iraq thing really was ridiculous like..


  • #34
    bobblepuzzle
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    ejmaztec wrote: »
    The Germans put the Americans in space.

    Yes we know that, thank you very much :) However they were ex-pat Americans!


  • #35
    Ruu_Old
    Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    Sure, young Irish people are growing up more like Americans these days, even speaking the same! :eek:


  • #36
    El Weirdo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    What have they done for us then?
    Better sanitation and medicine and education and irrigation and public health and roads and a freshwater system and baths and public order... but apart from that, what have the Romans Americans done for us?


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  • #37
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,263 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Cmdr Keen wrote: »
    Yes we know that, thank you very much :)However they were ex-pat Americans!

    I don't think there were any ex-pat Americans sending V1 and V2 rockets to England during WW2.


  • #38
    kumate_champ07
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,150 ✭✭✭kumate_champ07


    Cmdr Keen wrote: »
    No, you cop the f*** on, if the US wasn't there Europe would of been under the rule of tyranny, I might add there is no Oil under South Korea, but they'll defend them to the death!

    Didnt america help Sadam get into power in Iraq? Didnt they also back the Taliban and get them into power?

    also, watch this from 1:36

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvQjDvnPpCk


  • #39
    marius
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 441 ✭✭marius


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    Better sanitation and medicine and education and irrigation and public health and roads and a freshwater system and baths and public order... but apart from that, what have the Romans Americans done for us?

    The streets are safe at night....


  • #40
    sheesh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,081 ✭✭✭sheesh


    Cmdr Keen wrote: »
    There's a lot of anti-american sentiment in AH... was just wondering why?

    Because they went into Iraq to remove a prick, is that it??

    Don't forget the amount of good the US has done for Ireland... whether it be investment or help in the North...

    Seems to me anti-americanism is fashionable in Ireland these days, but the arguments put forward are clueless at best and just downright stupid at worst (yes there are stupid Americans, but there are also stupid Irish) They've done a lot more for the world than we have, so fo with your s****

    No wait. we like people from the usa its a great country. And I'm not being scarastic, They are really lovely people.

    Its just when their government invades a country and kills loads of people for no reason..... well we feel we should say something ... because ye know..thats just wrong. it is called anti americanism but its more like an intervention.


  • #41
    bonerm
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    Cmdr Keen wrote: »
    Don't forget the amount of good the US has done for Ireland... whether it be investment or help in the North...

    Who gives a damn tho? Everything the US do is (naturally and like most other countries) out of self-interest, including any input they've had in Ireland.

    Take all their "heroic" efforts in Haiti for example. It was worked out it was something like 50-100 cheaper to for the US to send aide and money there rather than let the problem play itself out and then deal with the rush of illegal immigrants on US borders and beyond.

    I've nothing particular against the place but it should not be presumed that we owe the US anything.


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  • #42
    bnt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,124 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    Any time someone generalises about "America" as if it's one coherent culture, I know I can just ignore that. I've been there four times - Seattle, New York, Denver, Houston - and saw four different countries, in effect.

    Look at some movies that show regional culture, such as Fargo (Minnesota), Clueless (California), Napoleon Dynamite (Idaho), Manhattan (er ...), and so on. How many movies have there been in which Americans feel the need to take a trip to "look for America"? :cool:

    You are the type of what the age is searching for, and what it is afraid it has found. I am so glad that you have never done anything, never carved a statue, or painted a picture, or produced anything outside of yourself! Life has been your art. You have set yourself to music. Your days are your sonnets.

    ―Oscar Wilde predicting Social Media, in The Picture of Dorian Gray



  • #43
    desertcircus
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    Assisting in the overthrow of Salvador Allende might do it. Refusing to recognise the Heng Samrin regime in Cambodia in favour of Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge might do it. Bombing the al-Shifa pharmaceutical factory in the Sudan might do it. The My Lai massacre might do it. The protecting of Noriega's cocaine trade in order to funnel arms to the Iranians might do it. The near-bottomless arrogance of assuming that US foreign policy is beneficial and good while not bothering to learn the first thing about what's being done might do it.

    Just a wild guess.


  • #44
    Truley
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭Truley


    Cmdr Keen wrote: »
    It seems to me that downright arrogance is at play with the whole anti-american lobby, maybe its fear that are the most powerful nation, oh and btw, a load of stupid ***** couldn't have produced the military hardware thats the awe of the world, or indeed have sent men to space...

    Jeez if your so in love with it why don't you just marry America so :pac:

    *satisfied nod*


  • #45
    [Deleted User]
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    Cmdr Keen wrote: »
    It seems to me that downright arrogance is at play with the whole anti-american lobby, maybe its fear that are the most powerful nation, oh and btw, a load of stupid ***** couldn't have produced the military hardware thats the awe of the world, or indeed have sent men to space...

    LOL


  • #46
    R0ot
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    1 in 4 Americans are retarded.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmEp97yQcRQ


  • #47
    [Deleted User]
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    bnt wrote: »
    Any time someone generalises about "America" as if it's one coherent culture, I know I can just ignore that.

    So when America bombed the absolute shlte out of Cambodia during Operation Menu, what state should I blame it on?


    America is America. It can go fuk of and die and the world will be a better place.. Disgusting dunghole.


  • #48
    RoundyMooney
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    inb4 Overheal.


  • #49
    baltimore sun
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  • #50
    El Weirdo
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWS-FoXbjVI


  • #51
    Biggins
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    Cmdr Keen wrote: »
    There's a lot of anti-american sentiment in AH... was just wondering why?

    Because they went into Iraq to remove a prick, is that it??
    I can't believe that people think that was just the reason!
    Dear god, bigger picture. See the bigger picture...


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  • #52
    Nodin
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    Cmdr Keen wrote: »
    There's a lot of anti-american sentiment in AH... was just wondering why?

    Because they went into Iraq to remove a prick, is that it??

    Any pricks removed were incidental. However I'd imagine Iraq has something to do with it, as well as Vietnam and sponsoring most nun rapers, priest killers and village burners active in Latin America for a good few years, while spouting crap about freedom and all the rest.
    Cmdr Keen wrote: »
    Don't forget the amount of good the US has done for Ireland... whether it be investment or help in the North...

    Ok. I'll forget all about the way they were supporting a regime in Chile that raped women with mice.

    Everywhere deals a lot with China - is it ok I forget what a pack of bastards run the PRC?


  • #53
    dlofnep
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    Dear OP,

    Do you want me to call you a Waaahmbulance?


  • #54
    IvySlayer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,190 ✭✭✭✭IvySlayer


    Cmdr Keen wrote: »
    No, you cop the f*** on, if the US wasn't there Europe would of been under the rule of tyranny, I might add there is no Oil under South Korea, but they'll defend them to the death!

    Why don't you learn some history before making stupid statements. Hitler was defeated because of the Russians. Who was in Berlin before the American and British forces reached the German border?


  • #55
    seawolf145
    Closed Accounts Posts: 123 ✭✭seawolf145


    [QUOTE=Cmdr Keen;67345524 They've done a lot more for the world than we have, so fo with your s****[/QUOTE]

    When did this happen you said?


  • #56
    Truley
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭Truley


    Nodin wrote: »
    Ok. I'll forget all about the way they were supporting a regime in Chile that raped women with mice.

    :eek:


  • #57
    Mr Benevolent
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    OP is obviously American or pro-American.

    GET HIM!

    Seriously though.
    It seems to me that downright arrogance is at play with the whole anti-american lobby, maybe its fear that are the most powerful nation, oh and btw, a load of stupid ***** couldn't have produced the military hardware thats the awe of the world, or indeed have sent men to space...

    The most powerful nation in the world is China, no question. Americans were the second nation in space by a significant margin. What military hardware do the Americans have that China doesn't have?

    Let's be blunt here. Post-war US has one solitary shining achievement: putting men on the moon. Impressive, but not something to rest their laurels on. It's the equivalent of England winning the '66 World Cup. The US's moment has been and gone.


  • #58
    Cheap Thrills!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,723 ✭✭✭Cheap Thrills!


    Truley wrote: »
    :eek:

    Computer mice? Or actual mice....how....:confused:


  • #59
    seawolf145
    Closed Accounts Posts: 123 ✭✭seawolf145


    Confab wrote: »
    OP is obviously American or pro-American.

    GET HIM!

    Seriously though.





    putting men on the moon. .

    Yes with help from German Scientists kidnapped After the War.


  • #60
    Terry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    Cmdr Keen wrote: »
    No, you cop the f*** on, if the US wasn't there Europe would of been under the rule of tyranny, I might add there is no Oil under South Korea, but they'll defend them to the death!
    Poland, East Germany, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Bulgaria, Yugoslavia to name but a few countries under Soviet rule or influence after WWII.

    Cmdr Keen wrote: »
    It seems to me that downright arrogance is at play with the whole anti-american lobby, maybe its fear that are the most powerful nation, oh and btw, a load of stupid ***** couldn't have produced the military hardware thats the awe of the world, or indeed have sent men to space...

    German scientists brought the rocket technology to America.

    Listen, American just needs to stop getting involved in the affairs of other countries.
    Korean war, Vietnam war, Cambodian campaign, Gulf war 1, Gulf war II (this time it's personal), Afghanistan. All complete **** ups.


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  • #61
    Capt'n Midnight
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    Cmdr Keen wrote: »
    No, you cop the f*** on, if the US wasn't there Europe would of been under the rule of tyranny,
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Normandy
    By D-Day 157 German divisions were stationed in the Soviet Union, 6 in Finland, 12 in Norway, 6 in Denmark, 9 in Germany, 21 in the Balkans, 26 in Italy and 59 in France, Belgium and the Netherlands.
    the real war was on the Russian front
    I might add there is no Oil under South Korea, but they'll defend them to the death!
    the only reason the South exists is that Japan surrendered in time to allow the US to land troops there , the Russians were advancing so fast through the Japanese they had to air drop fuel for their tanks. Don't believe it was the atomic bombs alone that caused the surrender, loosing almost three quarters of a million soldiers in 11 days can affect decisions too.


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