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[Heritage]: how much do ITG/RPSI pay for old locos

  • 11-08-2010 9:52pm
    #1
    Cookie_Monster
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    IS this info even public?

    Frankly I'm surprised they have to pay anything to take them off IE's hands since IE have generally written them off as junk by this stage.

    I can see 141 and 142 costing a bit as they were brought up to mainline certified condition before handover.

    Even if figures are not public whats a ballpark estimate for the cost of an old 121 or 141? Was just browsing IRN and noticed that there is talk of 175/177 and 134 being bought.


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  • #2
    dermo88
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    Normally a minimum of 10,000 Euro each from what I gather.


  • #3
    Cookie_Monster
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    dermo88 wrote: »
    Normally a minimum of 10,000 Euro each from what I gather.

    holy **** :eek:


    Why do IE even bother, is it to ensure every Tom Dick and Harry (or Tarquinn ;)) doesn't go asking for them?


  • #4
    [Deleted User]
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    124 was "sold" to the ITG for €1 plus VAT.


  • #5
    steamengine
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    See Cookie - You could have bought a real one instead of all those models :D


  • #6
    Cookie_Monster
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    steamengine wrote: »
    See Cookie - You could have bought a real one instead of all those models :D

    and just park it up in the front garden? :p


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  • #7
    steamengine
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    Cookie_Monster wrote: »
    and just park it up in the front garden? :p

    How big is your garden? Alternatively go along to Inchicore and play with it ? Inchicore will be the base 'pro tem' for these locos. Good news for the diesel loco buffs :D


  • #8
    Alt_Grrr
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    Karsini wrote: »
    124 was "sold" to the ITG for €1 plus VAT.

    As far as IE were concerned, they robbed the ITG blind on that one :P
    I guess they really weren't concerned about the resale value after 40 + years of service.


  • #9
    foggy_lad
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    Was the pound/euro in a brown envelope? Very surprising that Irish rail who are up to their eyeballs in debt can "throw out" perfectly good locomotives which would be worth much more than €10,000


  • #10
    Cookie_Monster
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    they'd only have to pay to scrap them anyway wouldn't they. I can't imagine it cheap to cut up a loco


  • #11
    Judgement Day
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    IE don't pay to scrap locomotives - Hammond Lane have an arrangement ;) with them.


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  • #12
    shamwari
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    foggy_lad wrote: »
    Was the pound/euro in a brown envelope? Very surprising that Irish rail who are up to their eyeballs in debt can "throw out" perfectly good locomotives which would be worth much more than €10,000
    That loco is not perfectly good as it was withdrawn from traffic yonks ago. And what makes you think it was worth > €10k? Scrap value would be minimal at best, and spares are not worth salvaging because they wouldn't fit a railcar :D


  • #13
    dermo88
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    The scrap value on 64 tonnes of steel, copper, and other materials would be a bit more than 10,000 Euro. The cost of sifting through that is another matter entirely.

    1 Euro + VAT is a nominal figure, symbolic really. Its going to a group who are preserving it, rather than a group who are taking railway sleepers for use as Garden furniture and giving a kickback to poorly paid permanent way staff. I am not referring to Ireland in the final sentence, just another country I have lived in.


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