Irish Taxi Driver stickers

Terry

dsmythy wrote: »

Or is it a problem with the Irish working class from which I find the majority of drivers originate.

There's always one.
Can you tell me how you would define working class?

I know three people who are taxi drivers.
Which of these, if any, would you define as being working class?

One was a plasterer who made quite a lot of money during the boom. He had to quit due to health problems. He had 4 employees.
The other is a former detective who worked on several high profile murder cases before retiring.
The third is a former milk man who now runs his own hackney company.

scorpioishere

A V A wrote: »

eh at this wel known rank there was a good few foreign nationals !!! and from what i have seen there always ismore than 3 or 4 at a time

Good there should be more in the future.

Celly Smunt

dsmythy wrote: »

If their socio-economic background has nothing to do with it and it's all to do with the profession then I would hazard a guess they may have legitimate gripes with regards the brave new world of multiculturalism which are unfortunately turning into general racism.

this i agree with since i am not defending the taxi drivers rather in fact the working class,there are a lot of taxi drivers with a chip on their shoulders dure to events which are based within the acts of their profession.

dsmythy wrote: »

As taxi drivers they are given an outlet in their passengers to let this steam off which other professions do not have. They are not more racist than anyone else, they just have more opportunity to say it out loud.

agree again,however the passenger has the right not to respond or ask to change the subject

dsmythy wrote: »

With any period of sustained free flowing immigration the working class are always the first hit. Often the only hit. So you may get more resentment among them. It's not an out there idea that their "working class" background may come into play coupled with their opportunity to release their gripes (their profession) to lead to this stereotype of taxi drivers being racist.

well if you look at how some companies treat their foreign employees you might be able to prescribe that the classes above the workers are infact the most diabolical racists of all,though they may not speak about it they act worse than the words of the working classes in professions.The Irish Ferries scandal a couple of years back comes to mind.

however since i hate combining people into classes,i feel classes should be out-ruled along with racism.

A V A

:rolleyes:

scorpioishere wrote: »

Good there should be more in the future.

dsmythy

pmcmahon wrote: »

well if you look at how some companies treat their foreign employees you might be able to prescribe that the classes above the workers are infact the most diabolical racists of all,though they may not speak about it they act worse than the words of the working classes in professions.The Irish Ferries scandal a couple of years back comes to mind.

however since i hate combining people into classes,i feel classes should be out-ruled along with racism.

Is it really racism or 'how can i make the most money'. If people are ruthless in their pursuit of profit then I don't think they care about the colour of your skin but rather how much money they can make out of you.

I'd throw multiculturalism out the window as well as the whole concept of class war and racism too as it just exasperates them.

dsmythy

Terry wrote: »

There's always one.
Can you tell me how you would define working class?

I know three people who are taxi drivers.
Which of these, if any, would you define as being working class?

One was a plasterer who made quite a lot of money during the boom. He had to quit due to health problems. He had 4 employees.
The other is a former detective who worked on several high profile murder cases before retiring.
The third is a former milk man who now runs his own hackney company.

What is the plasterer's background before the money came in? I'd imagine the milk man came from humble beginnings. The former Garda possibly too. Three personal examples really adds nothing to what I'm saying.

spider_pig

A V A wrote: »

i dont know how many times i have seen fights and arguments at taxi ranks because of people skipping the cue at the rank and pulling up at the top or taking their customers . i couldn't believe when i seen a taxi man shouting out the window trying to get people that were getting into a taxi at the taxi rank to get in his cab, i have never ever seen a irish taxi man do that!! i was shocked !!the way the just cut into the lines etc or if there is a rank , beside the road they go up along side the rank and pull in and get the next person waiting to get a taxi . . .its ridiculous

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLni3wbndls

mikemac

edit your link just to KLni3wbndls

Ah, fixed now

A V A

spider_pig wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLni3wbndls

dam right durk ka durka duurrrr

bytey

A V A wrote: »

we never had this problem 5 to 15 years ago did we??? every taxi man knew every nook and crany in dublin and out side of duble if it was required !!!

and a taxi man that doesn't take any fare is un grateful in the situation the taxi men are in today , i know of many many taxi drivers , including my uncles , that would take any fare given

yeah, and they were a thieving conniving bunch of ignorant c.unts
whod rather leave you on the street and take a juicer fare , and those they did pick up theyd rip off to the hilt as much as possible .

im well glad the ass has fallen out of the job and teaches the pr1cks a lesson.

Plebs

bytey wrote: »

im well glad the ass has fallen out of the job and teaches the pr1cks a lesson.

It's hardly the drivers' fault that the regulator has overseen a swing from one extreme to the other.

The market was operating optimally for about 12 months in 2007.

A V A

bytey wrote: »

yeah, and they were a thieving conniving bunch of ignorant c.unts
whod rather leave you on the street and take a juicer fare , and those they did pick up theyd rip off to the hilt as much as possible .

im well glad the ass has fallen out of the job and teaches the pr1cks a lesson.

there is good and bad every you will go, maybe its just the fact you had one bad experience thats turned you off

Terry

dsmythy wrote: »

What is the plasterer's background before the money came in? I'd imagine the milk man came from humble beginnings. The former Garda possibly too. Three personal examples really adds nothing to what I'm saying.

What difference does it make?
Do you personally know the backgrounds of all these working class taxi drivers you refer to, or are you judging them by how they look, or their accents, or where they come from?

The only people I know from Swords are complete scumbags. I don't know you though, so I'm not going to judge you on your background.

dsmythy

Terry wrote: »

What difference does it make?
Do you personally know the backgrounds of all these working class taxi drivers you refer to, or are you judging them by how they look, or their accents, or where they come from?

The only people I know from Swords are complete scumbags. I don't know you though, so I'm not going to judge you on your background.

How they dress, their accent, their experiences should they share them, their way of acting, their choice of topic... Many things combined would indicate it to me. I don't know where you get this idea from that working class = bad?

Terry

dsmythy wrote: »

How they dress, their accent, their experiences should they share them, their way of acting, their choice of topic... Many things combined would indicate it to me. I don't know where you get this idea from that working class = bad?

I don't think working class = bad. You're the one who brought it up, and then pigeon holed people with certain accents, dress sense, the way they act and what they choose to talk about.

So how exactly would you define working class?

dsmythy

Terry wrote: »

I don't think working class = bad. You're the one who brought it up, and then pigeon holed people with certain accents, dress sense, the way they act and what they choose to talk about.

So how exactly would you define working class?

People lower on the socio-economic scale is the obvious answer. All those subjective reasons i gave combined would give me a pretty accurate idea that most taxi drivers I talk to have the same sort of background and upbringing as me. The most recognisable term to describe it being 'working class'.

I explained earlier in the thread why I think resentment towards foreigners would be more prevalent among working class communities. So combine the two and that's where my reasoning comes from that it is their background and the opportunity to talk at length with passengers that makes people think taxi drivers are more racist than any other profession from skilled to unskilled.

Pdfile

Cmdr Keen wrote: »

So yeh, just got a cab home there and there was a big sticker on the side saying 'Irish Taxi Driver'... I only noticed it getting out of the taxi. Had I seen it before getting in, I would have gotten a different cab. Somebody told me they'ld seen it before on other cabs also...

aren'tthese the lads you see at the post office every tuesday and have the second job ?? :rolleyes:

bigpink

scorpioishere wrote: »

Talking about the airport. I am at Dublin airport many times at 4/5 am in the morning. In the arrival hall, all the drivers are there waiting for the first flight, mostly American flights to land at that time. Some of these drivers are having a coffee and be part in a group, gossiping/talking. But the funny thing is that you will find the black drivers in one group or alone, asian drivers standing alone and the other group all white irish. This is really a disgrace seeing that.

And in Limerick i see all the African/Aisans driver sticking to themselves.

I still cant find out how Non EU nationals get taxi licences

bigpink

Theres no doubt there is good folk among non nationals but why doesnt Ireland just close the doors for a while and stop giving out PPS numbers/or whatever way workers are getting in
Or else do a system like Austraila and make money from selling visas

sbsquarepants

Before derugulation, it was good old IRISH taxi drivers that held us to ransom, ripped us off and left us standing in the rain for 2 hours trying to get home from a night out. I couldn't have less sympathy for them, it's a no brain job and for some reason it used to pay like the semi literate assholes were brain surgeons.
Unskilled jobs pay like s'hit, this is the way of the world and i for one am glad that these idiots have been forced to live in the real world. Good enough for them. Seeing an Irish taxi driver sticker would actually put me off getting in the car! As if being a thieving dickhead, with a chip on your shoulder and jumped up sense of your own importance wasn't off putting enough, you now feel compelled to point out you're racist too.
As far as i'm concerned, this is revenge for all those freezing cold nights in town, as you feckers cruised by, picking and choosing and refusing to admit Dublin was grossly over charged and under serviced, by you and your colleagues and it's certainly sweet to me!!
That's the taxi drivers sorted - farmers, you're next!:D

bobblepuzzle

Pdfile wrote: »

aren'tthese the lads you see at the post office every tuesday and have the second job ?? :rolleyes:

No, maybe coz I haven't been in a post office since my last passport renewal which was many years ago... and even then the only other times was when I was really young with 'my first savings a/c' :P So its safe to say I have been in a PO less than 10 times in my life :eek:

bytey

A V A wrote: »

there is good and bad every you will go, maybe its just the fact you had one bad experience thats turned you off

no just loads of them ,
the worst one one was after booking a cab over the phone with National radio cabs
on the 22 nd december for 3am pick up to pick me and 4 grand of music gear up from a temple bar pub.

I had to wait until 6 am for a cab to turn up after calling them 15 times , and being told no cab was available - after BOOKING ONE !
after begging and basically being humiliated by the c.unts - they sent one at 6am , where i still was on the street in a temple bar alley.


before the black dudes turned up, id rate one in 5 cab drivers was decent .

Now I only try to get the foreign ones , cos they they get you there and STFU in the process .

also they have cooler music on the stereo.


I hope it continues to roll the way it is , the scumbags deserve it.

A V A

bytey wrote: »

no just loads of them ,
the worst one one was after booking a cab over the phone with National radio cabs
on the 22 nd december for 3am pick up to pick me and 4 grand of music gear up from a temple bar pub.

I had to wait until 6 am for a cab to turn up after calling them 15 times , and being told no cab was available - after BOOKING ONE !
after begging and basically being humiliated by the c.unts - they sent one at 6am , where i still was on the street in a temple bar alley.


before the black dudes turned up, id rate one in 5 cab drivers was decent .

Now I only try to get the foreign ones , cos they they get you there and STFU in the process .

also they have cooler music on the stereo.


I hope it continues to roll the way it is , the scumbags deserve it.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::cool:

Plebs

bigpink wrote: »

I still cant find out how Non EU nationals get taxi licences

The regulator, like the mafia, doesn't care where the €6,500 comes from.

eightyfish

Plebs wrote: »

The regulator, like the mafia, doesn't care where the €6,500 comes from.

Well you have to be legally allowed to work. There are plenty of non-EU nationals with work permits/permanent residency/citizen status so they should, and do, have the same work rights as any Irish person.

Plebs

eightyfish wrote: »

Well you have to be legally allowed to work. There are plenty of non-EU nationals with work permits/permanent residency/citizen status so they should, and do, have the same work rights as any Irish person.

I wonder how many non-nationals work in the regulator's office.

eightyfish

Plebs wrote: »

I wonder how many non-nationals work in the regulator's office.

What you're implying is rubbish. Explain in more detail please.

Plebs

eightyfish wrote: »

What you're implying is rubbish. Explain in more detail please.

Foreign labour is good enough for those on the street, but not good enough for her. So much for the elusive multicultural society.

eightyfish

Plebs wrote: »

Foreign labour is good enough for those on the street, but not good enough for her. So much for the elusive multicultural society.

What are you on about?

pappyodaniel

eightyfish wrote: »

What are you on about?

He's on about Kathleen. like duh!?!

eightyfish

pappyodaniel wrote: »

He's on about Kathleen. like duh!?!

Oh I know about that bit. I was asking about the rest of it:

Plebs wrote: »

Foreign labour is good enough for those on the street, but not good enough for her. So much for the elusive multicultural society.

It make a no sense.

shmivy

i got a non irish taxi there last week and when i pulled up outside my house he tryed to charge me 31 euro and i noticed the meter was running faster than usuall. i thought this was disgracful bearing in mind the most i had ever paid to get home was 18 euro. i handed him the 2o euro and got out of the car with him shoutin at me something about getting the guards, needless to say the guards never turned up. This really topped off my expeiriences with non irish taxi drivers so i would indeed get in a taxi that said irish driver

Run_to_da_hills

I saw one of those taxi stickers the other night, thought it was funny.

moonpurple

this one goes to the taxi drivers who watch boards with interest
1. there are some great irish taxi drivers
2. last friday i had 2 taxi trips, one man who grew up in india and one sour taxi driver who was a dub
3. the trip with the indian man was pleasant and he tried to round down the fare
4.the trip with the real dub was negative and he made ironic remarks related to the abscence of a large tip at the end,

there are some great irish taxi drivers but by god some of them are the biggest moaning sour pisspots that god himself could not have created even on a bad day

apart from that, hugs for everybody:pac:

Spook_ie

mloc wrote: »

Ridiculous. It's a business, not a charity.

Any customer is within his rights to try and agree a discount. It is a testament to the ridiculous charges used by taxi drivers that a discount is so often received.

Ridiculous. It's a business, not a charity.

Any customer is within his rights to try and agree a discount. It is a testament to the desperation of taxi drivers that a discount is so often received.



Would be a better description, how many taxi drivers are now pushing the envelope of safety by stretching the maintainence of their cars to an extra service interval before attending to those brakes/tyres etc? things may still be legal but if they had the money they would probably change them now rather than 10,000 miles later.
I for one have now to put some items that could affect vehicle performance in an emergency on the long finger, not an ideal situation either for me or the customer

mloc

Spook_ie wrote: »

I for one have now to put some items that could affect vehicle performance in an emergency on the long finger, not an ideal situation either for me or the customer

Hmmm. It seems to me that there is a large proportion of the taxi driving community that doesn't understand basic economics.

There is a finite demand for taxis; that means there comes a point when there are too many taxis. In the past, this led to the ridiculous practice of over regulation and creating artificial supply deficit through reduced taxi licencing. If taxi companies were more competitive they will survive. If not, I'm afraid, time to look for another job.

Welcome to the world of running a business.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Terry wrote: »

The only people I know from Swords are complete scumbags. I don't know you though, so I'm not going to judge you on your background.

I worked on the door of The Slaughtered Lamb for a few years, and Wrights too for awhile - Terry, you've no idea how bad Swords is!.

Oh yea, the topic is taxi drivers and their stickers - personally I think it looks silly more so than anything else, big deal - your Irish!..

I've had good and bad experiences with both Irish and foreign drivers, but it has to be said - more with the foreign lads.

If I'm bothered to think, in recent times..

I hailed one on Lord Edward Street, gave him my destination - he didn't know it.. Big deal, can't be expected to know everywhere.. But then he didn't know Fairview or the Malahide Rd. I got out on Dame St & refused to pay for the 100mtr trip... This is a regular occurance.

Another locked all the doors when I mentioned that I'd to step out to get his money, lol.. I'm big and ugly enough to do him in the car if I wanted, I wouldn't waste my breath doing a runner if I was that badly stuck.

Loads, and loads, and loads wouldn't stop talking on their damned mobile phones - like WTF.

The only problems I've had with Irish drivers have been dirty car's.

Spook_ie

mloc wrote: »

Hmmm. It seems to me that there is a large proportion of the taxi driving community that doesn't understand basic economics.

There is a finite demand for taxis; that means there comes a point when there are too many taxis. In the past, this led to the ridiculous practice of over regulation and creating artificial supply deficit through reduced taxi licencing. If taxi companies were more competitive they will survive. If not, I'm afraid, time to look for another job.

Welcome to the world of running a business.

I assure you that I'm well aware of basic economics, however a fact that economists usualy fail to allow for ( especialy for sole traders ) is that at the end of the day providing for the family 1st will usualy sway most business decisions

As is with most businesses cost cutting will be done to allow for falling revenues, the question is where do you as a sole trader cut the costs, you work more hours ( not strictly legal as you are legaly allowed to only do a maximum of 3x 11 hours shifts on any consecutive days ), you work different areas where other taxi drivers fear to tread, not that many areas now where you won't find a taxi cruising in desperation, you save on maintainence by extending the period, using cheaper parts, buying cheap non premium branded tyres etc. doing ( bodging ) it yourself. So it's going to more a case of who can tighten their belts the most, however, even now don't expect to come to my car and state bluntly "Rush for a tenner bud" because you'll be told exactly where to go

Teferi

sbsquarepants wrote: »

it's a no brain job

No. The taxi drivers who moan are the ones with no brain. The ones who are smart know where to go and when to get custom, do business with regular customers and generally run it like a business instead of feel entitled.

Collie D

Emmanuel Little Soda wrote: »

If I'm bothered to think, in recent times..

I hailed one on Lord Edward Street, gave him my destination - he didn't know it.. Big deal, can't be expected to know everywhere.. But then he didn't know Fairview or the Malahide Rd. I got out on Dame St & refused to pay for the 100mtr trip... This is a regular occurance.

This is why I try to use Irish taxi drivers if at all possible. I want a driver to know where he's going, not to get lost and cost me more money because of his lack of direction. If I want to get from city centre to Coolock you take a right at Fairview and keep going. I shouldn't have to say "straight on" at every bloody junction. Not just foreign drivers. I try to avoid drivers with country registrations too.

Spook_ie

Collie D wrote: »

This is why I try to use Irish taxi drivers if at all possible. I want a driver to know where he's going, not to get lost and cost me more money because of his lack of direction. If I want to get from city centre to Coolock you take a right at Fairview and keep going. I shouldn't have to say "straight on" at every bloody junction. Not just foreign drivers. I try to avoid drivers with country registrations too.

Would not taking a right at Fairview ( on the way out from the city ) not put you into the park and then the canal

Collie D

Spook_ie wrote: »

Would not taking a right at Fairview ( on the way out from the city ) not put you into the park and then the canal

Haha, there goes my whole argument about people not knowing their direction when I don't know it myself. Although now you see why I really need a driver to know where he's going.

LevelSpirit

Teferi wrote: »

No. The taxi drivers who moan are the ones with no brain. The ones who are smart know where to go and when to get custom, do business with regular customers and generally run it like a business instead of feel entitled.

Well said. Most of them dont know its a business they are running and think they can just drive around and put stickers on.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Collie D wrote: »

Haha, there goes my whole argument about people not knowing their direction when I don't know it myself. Although now you see why I really need a driver to know where he's going.

And there's Spook_ie - black as the ace of spades :cool:

But on another serious note - mostly these days I'll ask does the driver know my destination before taking his taxi (I'm old fashioned and wouldn't get into a female drivers car), but its mostly because I'm pissed drunk and can't be arsed trying to give directions.

In all reality I don't expect a driver to know every where in the city.

Red Hand

Emmanuel Little Soda wrote: »

But on another serious note - mostly these days I'll ask does the driver know my destination before taking his taxi (I'm old fashioned and wouldn't get into a female drivers car), but its mostly because I'm pissed drunk and can't be arsed trying to give directions.

In all reality I don't expect a driver to know every where in the city.

I do the same (though not the female drivers thing:pac:)

gerbear1

I'm pretty sure it's generally popular to support local businesses anywhere you go in the world, why would this be any different??

I'm in argentina right now, and much like the US it's difficult to go anywhere without seeing the national flag in your face.

Just to add to this, I saw a taxi this evening with a "Full Time Taxi Driver" sticker and a second sticker saying "Double Jobbers Out."

mikemac

There is a rank in Ballyfermot shopping center.

There is small shelter with Double Jobbers Out sign. I think we'll see more of the stickers around.

And a few letters and articles on the shelter. I think about the Constitution. I'm not too sure what they are about so I'll read them next time, I wouldn't have thought taxi drivers are experts on the Constitution but maybe they are.

feelingstressed

feelingstressed wrote: »

There is a rank in Ballyfermot shopping center.

There is small shelter with Double Jobbers Out sign. I think we'll see more of the stickers around.

And a few letters and articles on the shelter. I think about the Constitution. I'm not too sure what they are about so I'll read them next time, I wouldn't have thought taxi drivers are experts on the Constitution but maybe they are.

Was out there yesterday and didn't notice (but wasn't looking either). Will have to take a look next time.

Johro

I honestly couldn't give a sh!t about what was written on the side of the taxi or who was driving it. It's a taxi.
If the cabbie gets me where I want to be and doesn't rip me off that's good enough for me. If he didn't have a word of english it still wouln't bother me as long as he/she got me there. Get a life. Get a cab. Any cab.