Windows Phone 7 Launch Thread

Bugzy

PseudoFamous wrote: »

evolutionqy7 wrote: »

But real **** won't kick off till Apollo

...mango hasn't yet been released, and they're already talking about the following update? Shur, WinPhone9 is what I'm holding out for.

Large software companies don't just do one update or product and start the next one after its realeased. Heads at the table would already have decided what will be coming in the next one of even an idea for a two years or more plan.

their on the right track track. They just need more support from OEM's. Was talking to Samsung, HTC, Nokia reps today. Neither of them have correct info or enthusiasm towards windows phone. So till they get their oem's sorted there wont be alot going on with windows phone since they don't even train existing or new staff properly. Samsung only mentioned the word omnia. Nokia talks briefly about wp but mostly concentrates on Anna, Belle Symbian and ovi maps.

HTC doesn't even mention it...

MJPE

Thanks a million for reply's guys looks like I have to do a bit of reading to do.:)

Just have one more question should I wait for Nokia's WP7 handset?

AntiVirus

MJPE wrote: »

Just have one more question should I wait for Nokia's WP7 handset?

I bought the LG Optimus 7 for 168 euro's even though I'm waiting to see what the Nokia one is like. I'm expecting it to be around the 500 euro mark when its released. I should be able to get around 100 for my LG if I sell it before the others here do

T-b0n3

AntiVirus wrote: »

It's very easy to install, here's a noobs guide to installing Mango on your WP7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1164891

Seems much easier than the pdf guide I read a week or so ago. Has it gotten easier or is it just a much simpler method?

I know I keep saying I'm going to stick mango on, but just haven't gotten around to it yet (plus slightly afraid of bricking my brand new phone!). But think I'll give it a shot tomorrow if it seems safe enough and easy.

AntiVirus

T-b0n3 wrote: »

Seems much easier than the pdf guide I read a week or so ago. Has it gotten easier or is it just a much simpler method?

I know I keep saying I'm going to stick mango on, but just haven't gotten around to it yet (plus slightly afraid of bricking my brand new phone!). But think I'll give it a shot tomorrow if it seems safe enough and easy.

You'll have no problems doing it and you'll love Mango!

T-b0n3

AntiVirus wrote: »

You'll have no problems doing it and you'll love Mango!

Cool thanks.

This the best guide to follow then http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1164891 ?

And does it still take like 7 hours like the last guide said it took?

Cheers

AntiVirus

T-b0n3 wrote: »

Cool thanks.

This the best guide to follow then http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1164891 ?

And does it still take like 7 hours like the last guide said it took?

Cheers

You're not going to find an easier way to install the Mango 2 beta. You can skip looking for the backup file in the first bit as well. If you need to roll back from Mango you can do it with the Zune test you'll be installing. Just don't uninstall it.

If you do unistall it you'll just be back to the factory settings and have to install your app's etc.. again.

T-b0n3

AntiVirus wrote: »

You're not going to find an easier way to install the Mango 2 beta. You can skip looking for the backup file in the first bit as well. If you need to roll back from Mango you can do it with the Zune test you'll be installing. Just don't uninstall it.

If you do unistall it you'll just be back to the factory settings and have to install your app's etc.. again.

Cool thanks your a great help.

I'll get it installed tomorrow so. Hopefully it doesn't take me to long and hopefully I don't have to come hassle you with more questions!

AntiVirus

T-b0n3 wrote: »

Cool thanks your a great help.

I'll get it installed tomorrow so. Hopefully it doesn't take me to long and hopefully I don't have to come hassle you with more questions!

Any questions, fire away. If you follow the instructions it will all go smoothly...

and it will take about 1 hour to do in total.

T-b0n3

AntiVirus wrote: »

Any questions, fire away. If you follow the instructions it will all go smoothly...

and it will take about 1 hour to do in total.

Cool thanks again.

I'll post back with my results.

heid

Installed and works fine.

T-b0n3

T-b0n3 wrote: »

Cool thanks again.

I'll post back with my results.

Got it all installed there with no problems. Didn't take long and was easy to do. Now to see the new/better features and have a good play.

Thanks again AntiVirus.

heid

Does mango re-lock the phone. Touchxperiece and flashapp don't work anymore 'revoked by microsoft'

T-b0n3

heid wrote: »

Does mango re-lock the phone. Touchxperiece and flashapp don't work anymore 'revoked by microsoft'

Yea I'm pretty sure it does. I get the same error when I try to use TouchXperience.

I wonder what's the best way to unlock it again? Can we just do it in the registry like we did before I wonder?

jasonb

Hi there,

Was going to post a separate thread, but then I saw that people had asked questions on this thread so I thought I'd do that instead.

We've got a few LG Optimus 7 phones that our employees use. They connect to our Exchange Server so that Email / Calendar / Contacts are synced.

One of the LG Optimus 7 phones has started running up massive data usage in the last couple of months ( i.e. about 4 Gb a month, around 400-700Mb a day ). All the other phones are behaving as normal.

All Vodafone can tell me is that it's happening, they can't tell me what the data is etc.

I did a hard reset on the phone ( just in case the user - who isn't the kind of person to start downloading massive files - accidentally signed up for something ). The hard reset wiped everything ( as I expected ) and then I reconfigured it to Sync to Exchange. It only downloads the last month's worth of email, and no email bigger than about 25k. There's a 5Mb limit for email in our company anyhow, so it can't be email.

Anyhow, even after the hard reset the massive data usage is still continuing. Vodafone have advised I contact Microsoft about it!

Does anyone know of a MarketPlace App I can get that will show me what Apps are running in the background on the LG Optimus 7, and what data is being sent / received?

Thanks in advance...

J.

AntiVirus

heid wrote: »

Does mango re-lock the phone. Touchxperiece and flashapp don't work anymore 'revoked by microsoft'

T-b0n3 wrote: »

Yea I'm pretty sure it does. I get the same error when I try to use TouchXperience.

I wonder what's the best way to unlock it again? Can we just do it in the registry like we did before I wonder?

You can unlock the phone like you did before using the built in registry editor. I'm not sure Touchxperience will work with Mango. I haven't tried it myself.

If you're having problem getting the facebook chat to work try going into Settings -> People and long press on Facebook and select sync, do the same with Windows Live. This worked for me.

AntiVirus

jasonb wrote: »

Hi there,

Was going to post a separate thread, but then I saw that people had asked questions on this thread so I thought I'd do that instead.

We've got a few LG Optimus 7 phones that our employees use. They connect to our Exchange Server so that Email / Calendar / Contacts are synced.

One of the LG Optimus 7 phones has started running up massive data usage in the last couple of months ( i.e. about 4 Gb a month, around 400-700Mb a day ). All the other phones are behaving as normal.

All Vodafone can tell me is that it's happening, they can't tell me what the data is etc.

I did a hard reset on the phone ( just in case the user - who isn't the kind of person to start downloading massive files - accidentally signed up for something ). The hard reset wiped everything ( as I expected ) and then I reconfigured it to Sync to Exchange. It only downloads the last month's worth of email, and no email bigger than about 25k. There's a 5Mb limit for email in our company anyhow, so it can't be email.

Anyhow, even after the hard reset the massive data usage is still continuing. Vodafone have advised I contact Microsoft about it!

Does anyone know of a MarketPlace App I can get that will show me what Apps are running in the background on the LG Optimus 7, and what data is being sent / received?

Thanks in advance...

J.

There was an issue with Yahoo eating data on WP7, read about it here:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-20030270-75.html

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/winphone/forum/wp7-sync/excessive-phantom-data-usage/2a8f19ff-0e82-4581-8985-04e4fb2cdb45

Odaise Gaelach

From the Microsoft Exchange Team's blog...

For Windows Phone 7 EAS issue, users might see increased data usage when a message is "stuck" in their outbox. A user might encounter this state if they send email to an invalid email address or if they send a message that's larger than the allowed message size (server side policy) from their phone. In these cases, users can go to their Outbox folder and delete the stuck message and the phone's data use will return to normal. Below are the steps a user can take to see if there is a message stuck in their outbox and how to delete it.

Note: This impacts only a very small percentage of Windows Phone 7 users and does not impact EAS users on other phone platforms.

1. Click the folder icon at the bottom of the EAS-enabled inbox
2. Select the Show all folders option
3. Select the folder called Outbox (if you have a lot of folders, you may have to scroll down to see this folder)
4. Delete any messages in this folder

Exchange ActiveSync and Windows Phone 7 "phantom data" issue

jasonb

Nice one, thanks! I don't think it's the Yahoo thing ( they don't have Yahoo email ) but I'll check out the Outbox...

Jason.

AntiVirus

jasonb wrote: »

Nice one, thanks! I don't think it's the Yahoo thing ( they don't have Yahoo email ) but I'll check out the Outbox...

Jason.

Maybe try switching his LG with someone else, there maybe a problem with his phone or his Sim card. If the problem follows him, try getting him a new sim card. If the other person has the same problem with that phone, then its the phone.

If you get him a new sim card and he still has the same problem, try hiring someone else

jasonb

Heh heh... I was thinking I might have to go down the 'swap the handset / swap the SIM' route.

However, while I was entering my original post, something occured to me.

After I did the Hard Reset, I contacted Vodafone a couple of weeks later to check the data usage, and they said over 1.5Gb of data had been transferred. But, they meant since the last bill date, which was nearly 2 weeks before I did the Hard Reset.

Since then I've asked them to check again, and since the day of the Hard Reset there's only been around 1Mb a day usage. So it looks like the Hard Reset has actually fixed it.

Thanks for the advice...

J.

T-b0n3

Loving all the nice little subtle features Mango has to offer. It does seem a little glitchy but that is to be expected with it being a beta and all. I'm sure the full release will be amazing.

One thing that I'm not too found of is the address bar in IE on the bottom instead of the top, and the tab button is inside a second menu instead of directly accessible. Not the end of the world or anything, maybe it will just take a bit of getting used to.

Looking forward to the final release anyway.

markpb

My Samsung Omnia just told me than an update was available but I won't be near a PC for a few days so I'm curious to know what it is. I have 7392 already installed and there are no more updates listed on the Where's My Update page. Does anyone have any ideas?

DjFlin

T-b0n3 wrote: »

the tab button is inside a second menu instead of directly accessible.

Drives me completely insane. HAS to be changed for the final release.

markpb wrote: »

My Samsung Omnia just told me than an update was available but I won't be near a PC for a few days so I'm curious to know what it is. I have 7392 already installed and there are no more updates listed on the Where's My Update page. Does anyone have any ideas?

Its just a small update with some minor fixes. Nothing you cant live without for a few days.

T-b0n3

DjFlin wrote: »

Drives me completely insane. HAS to be changed for the final release.

Yea really hope it is. I use it way to often for it not to be directly accessible. Still like Mango overall though, and I'm sure the final build will be even more impressive.

evolutionqy7

markpb wrote: »

My Samsung Omnia just told me than an update was available but I won't be near a PC for a few days so I'm curious to know what it is. I have 7392 already installed and there are no more updates listed on the Where's My Update page. Does anyone have any ideas?

Its a firmware update. Not an OS update.

evolutionqy7

T-b0n3 wrote: »

Loving all the nice little subtle features Mango has to offer. It does seem a little glitchy but that is to be expected with it being a beta and all. I'm sure the full release will be amazing.

One thing that I'm not too found of is the address bar in IE on the bottom instead of the top, and the tab button is inside a second menu instead of directly accessible. Not the end of the world or anything, maybe it will just take a bit of getting used to.

Looking forward to the final release anyway.

If you chose to open new tabs in a web page.

Then press and hold back. You will see the tabs in multi tasking mode its quite handy can see all the pages as well

T-b0n3

evolutionqy7 wrote: »

If you chose to open new tabs in a web page.

Then press and hold back. You will see the tabs in multi tasking mode its quite handy can see all the pages as well

Yea I've been using that too, its a great feature. Thanks though mate.

fjon

evolutionqy7 wrote: »

Its a firmware update. Not an OS update.

Got the same on my Optimus. Also firmware?

Dean_Mc

Yup,

Mango is not due for another view months at least.

Using the beta though I have yet to run into stablity issues, having said that the Optimus 7 is a rock of a phone, best one I have ever own, never an ounce of trouble with it, even with the mango beta installed.

evolutionqy7

fjon wrote: »

evolutionqy7 wrote: »

Its a firmware update. Not an OS update.

Got the same on my Optimus. Also firmware?

Yes. It was reported somewhere that omnia and optimus are getting the update.

Mango is quite stable. One of the best beta's I've tested anyway.

Which is good news. The longest process of the os updates are usually bug fixes Not adding the features

markpb

DjFlin wrote: »

Its just a small update with some minor fixes. Nothing you cant live without for a few days.

evolutionqy7 wrote: »

Its a firmware update. Not an OS update.

Cheers Are these minor updates described anywhere?

antodeco

Updated mine there. Apparently its a 3rd party certificate for apps issue (prevents certain ones loading).

Dean_Mc

Hi guys,

I am looking for beta testers, please see: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?threadid=2056330438 for details.

evolutionqy7

Just got bird and beaks to my surprise to see dlc you can additionally buy extra maps for Ms points

as well its a cool enough game

Jaafa

Hey folks. I've been looking for a phone with a qwerty keypad. Had a look at the HTC desire z and am considering getting that.

However I see they're are other HTC phones with qwerty on Windows phone 7 like the HTC pro, HTC arrive, LG quantum and HTC merge but that's android.

So what I want to know is are any of these available here in Ireland or handy enough to get online. Also if any has any experience as to which is the best that would be great. Currently watching reviews on them all.

Thank you.

colinsyron

I don't normally post here but i felt compelled to thank everyone for all the info re the mango update and anything Optimus 7 related. I put Mango on last night and am lovin it so far, the groups and facebook chat are particularly impressive.

So thanks to u all, especially anti-virus for the link to the guide for newbies, never would have done it without that!

DjFlin

Jaafa wrote: »

Hey folks. I've been looking for a phone with a qwerty keypad. Had a look at the HTC desire z and am considering getting that.

However I see they're are other HTC phones with qwerty on Windows phone 7 like the HTC pro, HTC arrive, LG quantum and HTC merge but that's android.

So what I want to know is are any of these available here in Ireland or handy enough to get online. Also if any has any experience as to which is the best that would be great. Currently watching reviews on them all.

Thank you.

I dont know if any carriers here offer them, but http://www.expansys.ie/ probably will have it.

Jaafa

DjFlin wrote: »

I dont know if any carriers here offer them, but http://www.expansys.ie/ probably will have it.

Thank you very much.

Does anyone here have any experience of the HTC 7 Pro? Say versus Desire Z?

AntiVirus

colinsyron wrote: »

So thanks to u all, especially anti-virus for the link to the guide for newbies, never would have done it without that!

I was a newbie once as we all were so I like to help out if I can. :-D

Charlie Haughy

Jaafa wrote: »

Hey folks. I've been looking for a phone with a qwerty keypad. Had a look at the HTC desire z and am considering getting that.

However I see they're are other HTC phones with qwerty on Windows phone 7 like the HTC pro, HTC arrive, LG quantum and HTC merge but that's android.

So what I want to know is are any of these available here in Ireland or handy enough to get online. Also if any has any experience as to which is the best that would be great. Currently watching reviews on them all.

Thank you.

Have you looked at getting an unlocked Dell Venue Pro? They have a slide out qwerty keyboard, run WP7, have a AMOLED capacitive touchscreen screen etc. specs: http://www.gsmarena.com/dell_venue_pro-3280.php

Supposedly going for about $250 in USA at the moment, so you could try ebay for an unlocked one off someone who ships here.

evolutionqy7

Jaafa wrote: »

DjFlin wrote: »

I dont know if any carriers here offer them, but http://www.expansys.ie/ probably will have it.

Thank you very much.

Does anyone here have any experience of the HTC 7 Pro? Say versus Desire Z?

Any HTC WP7 or other OEM phones will have the same wp7. The only diff is the app hub.

Desire Z was dropped by CPW for some reason. Whatever is being sold is left over stock.

Try looking up some reviews. Www.phonearema.com is a good enough spot

fgaff

Hi all you knowledgeable people, is there anyone out there who can tell me how to set up mms messaging on lg optimus windows 7 for vodafone. VODAFONE DONT HAVE THE SETTINGS ! even though the phone is listed as one of their best sellers on their website! frustrated.

AntiVirus

fgaff wrote: »

Hi all you knowledgeable people, is there anyone out there who can tell me how to set up mms messaging on lg optimus windows 7 for vodafone. VODAFONE DONT HAVE THE SETTINGS ! even though the phone is listed as one of their best sellers on their website! frustrated.

Try doing this:

1. Go to the phone app
2. Dial ##634# and click Send
3. When prompted for a password type 277634#*#
4. You should now be at "Factory Menu"
5. Choose "Engineer Menu"
6. Choose "Other Setting"
7. Verify that "Set ADC" is set to Enable
8. From the "Other Setting" page, choose "Set network profile"
9. You should now be on the "Set network profile" page and in the bottom half of the window you should see a list of *.xml files. These appear to be the network configuration files.
10. Look at the filenames for the config files and select
_PROV_VDF_IE_272_01_ENG.xml This is for Vodafone Ireland.

simi956

1) Type ##634# on your keypad
2) This opens the MFG password prompt. Enter 277634#*#.
3) Select 7, Engineering Menu
4) Select 6, Other Setting followed by Set Network Profiles . .....(please wait a few seconds...reading data) will show on the screen..Then it will display the list of all possible carriers for your handset.
5) Select the 'network' you require.
6) Click back button once
7) Select Set ADC
8) Ensure its set to enable
9) Shut down the device. Remove the battery and SIM card, replace just the battery and then restart without the SIM inserted.
10) Once the device is on, shut down, replace the SIM, and start as normal

colinsyron

AntiVirus wrote: »

Try doing this:

1. Go to the phone app
2. Dial ##634# and click Send
3. When prompted for a password type 277634#*#
4. You should now be at "Factory Menu"
5. Choose "Engineer Menu"
6. Choose "Other Setting"
7. Verify that "Set ADC" is set to Enable
8. From the "Other Setting" page, choose "Set network profile"
9. You should now be on the "Set network profile" page and in the bottom half of the window you should see a list of *.xml files. These appear to be the network configuration files.
10. Look at the filenames for the config files and select
_PROV_VDF_IE_272_01_ENG.xml This is for Vodafone Ireland.

I've tried this and when i get to the "Set Network Profile" part the phone says please wait... reading data but then just goes back to app menu? any idea why?
Thanks

Colin

AntiVirus

colinsyron wrote: »

I've tried this and when i get to the "Set Network Profile" part the phone says please wait... reading data but then just goes back to app menu? any idea why?
Thanks

Colin

Try uninstalling the MFG app and retry the same steps again. Also it may have selected the correct provisioning file so check that as well.

I'm pretty sure this will only work if you are on the Vodafphone network here unless you have an LG Optimus from Germany that isn't a Vodafone one. To check go into Settings -> About and see if Carrier is Vodafone.

If MMS is really an issue for some people you can down load and flash the LG Optimus 7 open europe firmware. I haven't done it as none of my friends use MMS anymore. It's a bit like Fax :pac:

Jaafa

Got a few more questions you guys have been very helpful so far so thank you for that.

I hear that acessing you data on WP7 when connected to your PC is difficult and restricted. How true is this? Really all I want to be able to do is copy music or videos from my PC to the phone.

Secondly is 8GB of memory on the HTC Pro 7 enough? I mean how big are the various games and apps roughly, that you can get.

Third can you buy games using credit?

Fourth, people say WP7 is more stable than Android. Is this true even for stock android?

Thats all for now I'm sure I'll have more question later. :P Thanks again people.

colinsyron

AntiVirus wrote: »

Try uninstalling the MFG app and retry the same steps again. Also it may have selected the correct provisioning file so check that as well.

I'm pretty sure this will only work if you are on the Vodafphone network here unless you have an LG Optimus from Germany that isn't a Vodafone one. To check go into Settings -> About and see if Carrier is Vodafone.

If MMS is really an issue for some people you can down load and flash the LG Optimus 7 open europe firmware. I haven't done it as none of my friends use MMS anymore. It's a bit like Fax :pac:

Uninstalled it but now its not showing anything on the bottom half of the set network profile screen. I have the german optimus 7 vodafone carrier alright. Not too bothered about mms to be honest so don't worry about it. My father still loves em though! God Bless im!:D

simi956

It is very straight forward to access your Data (Music, Videos). You just need to install the Zune Client, via Zune.net After install you can do a custom setup to pull in the Data from whatever folder location on the C:
8 GB is plenty as the apps and games do not take up much space
Your Credit Card can be added via the Zune Client or via the phone.
I believe WP7 is very stable I have not had any issues