Ozil to Madrid

Xavi6

Another deal gone through today.

Reported price of €15million

http://www.realmadrid.com/cs/Satellite/es/Home.htm

Mitch Connor

great price for a great talent.

Will be interesting to see where (or if) Kaka, Canales, Ronaldo and Ozil all fit. I reckon Canales could regret his move (if not financially). Assume van der Vaart will be shown the door successfully this summer - someone could pick up an absolute bargain there (would take him at United anyway)

Fizman

I didn't even know they signed Khedira until I clicked that link!

Jax Teller

Nooooooooooooooo

_Bella_

I assume he'll replace Kaka while he's injured and then will spend the rest of the season warming the bench.

Ferris_Bueller

They have some serious quality in that midfield. Even if they play 5 in the middle they're still going to have to get rid of some very good players.

kennethk

any body else pissed off about this:mad: buying up everyone

Nailz

Not bothered, but I should point out he's a fool for going to Madrid.

Ush1

_Bella_ wrote: »

I assume he'll replace Kaka while he's injured and then will spend the rest of the season warming the bench.

Kaka played 25 games last year.

LuckyLloyd

96 points last year?

Add the best coach in the world.

Add Khadeira, Ozil, Di Maria, Carvalho.

Remove some beaten dockets like Raul and Guti.

The difference between double and nothing last year for Madrid was ultimately two games against Lyon and Barcelona. I'm thinking they have done what needed to be done to go that little extra.

Vokes

Mitch Connor wrote: »

great price for a great talent.

Will be interesting to see where (or if) Kaka, Canales, Ronaldo and Ozil all fit. I reckon Canales could regret his move (if not financially). Assume van der Vaart will be shown the door successfully this summer - someone could pick up an absolute bargain there (would take him at United anyway)

Is Canales a forward? Or could be converted into one? There only seems to be 3 forwards (Higuain, Ronaldo, Benzema) in Real's squad atm, so they need some backup there (unless they're going with a sort of 4-3-1-2 diamond setup).

Xavi6

kennethk wrote: »

any body else pissed off about this:mad: buying up everyone

Disgusting isn't it?

:pac:

FlawedGenius

Bad move for him will struggle to get into the team should of stayed in Germany.

3hn2givr7mx1sc

I predict a very unhappy camp around December, tbh.

Nailz

baz2009 wrote: »

I predict a very unhappy camp around December, tbh.

Yep. He'll want out by next summer, he'll get sweet **** all of a look in once Kaka's fit again.

Mitch Connor

Nailz wrote: »

Yep. He'll want out by next summer, he'll get sweet **** all of a look in once Kaka's fit again.

Kaka hasn't been the player he once was for a couple of seasons now imo - not at club level.

If Ozil deserves his place, Mourinho will give it to him - he isn't going to be bullied into team selections by the Madrid PR machine.

keane2097

People seem to be completely forgetting that Mourinho is in charge of Madrid this season.

They're going to be fcuking monsters, and a misfiring Kaka will find himself on the bench reputation or no reputation.

ironictoaster

_Bella_ wrote: »

I assume he'll replace Kaka while he's injured and then will spend the rest of the season warming the bench.

Going to post the same thing. As a United fan I am dissapointed. Top player.

UnknownSpecies

Would have liked him at Arsenal, but at least he didn't go to United!

Mikeyt086

Absolultely gutted.

He will be great in Madrid, he has the quality.

No bench warming there im afraid. Frightning team.

dubmick

dorgasm wrote: »

Would have liked him at Arsenal, but at least he didn't go to United!

No we just spend €9 million on a player who was in the Portuguese third division last season. :mad:

JimsAlterEgo

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

Absolultely gutted.

He will be great in Madrid, he has the quality.

---

Casillas
Ramos-Pepe-Carvalho-Albiol

---

Alonso-Khadiera
Option*

---

Kaka

---

Ozil

---

Ronaldo-Higuain

Option*= Van der Vaart, Canales and Di Maria.

No bench warming there im afraid. Frightning team.

12 players

Jax Teller

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

Absolultely gutted.

He will be great in Madrid, he has the quality.

---

Casillas
Ramos-Pepe-Carvalho-Albiol

---

Alonso-Khadiera
Option*

---

Kaka

---

Ozil

---

Ronaldo-Higuain

Option*= Van der Vaart, Canales and Di Maria.

No bench warming there im afraid. Frightning team.

That's 12 mikey ha

NickDrake

Bench warming for the next 2 years. Terrible move and went for the money. Foolish young man.

Kaka will not be dropped. PR machine will rule I'm afraid.

Silly Silly boy

Ush1

Kaka out for at least 3 months + Ozil coming in and playing well + Jose liking it = Success and possible trophies for Ozil.

gimmick

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

96 points last year?

Add the best coach in the world.

Add Khadeira, Ozil, Di Maria, Carvalho.

Remove some beaten dockets like Raul and Guti.

The difference between double and nothing last year for Madrid was ultimately two games against Lyon and Barcelona. I'm thinking they have done what needed to be done to go that little extra.

Has Di Maria actually signed for them?

Don't forget the mighty Alcorcon who knoecked them out of the CDR as well.

While they have strengthened, the gulf between themselves and Barca was alot more than the 3 points the season suggested. They were comprehensively beaten in both games IMO. That said, had they drawn both games, they would have won the league. And lets all remember, Jose does not lose league games at home.

v3ttel

JimsAlterEgo wrote: »

12 players

That extra player really gives Mourinho the tactical edge

Move Ronaldo to the right instead of the "option" and you have an outstanding side.

Ush1

gimmick wrote: »

Has Di Maria actually signed for them?

Don't forget the mighty Alcorcon who knoecked them out of the CDR as well.

While they have strengthened, the gulf betweent hemselves and Barca was alot more than the 3 points the season suggested. Theyw ere comprehensively beaten in both games IMO. That said, had they drawn both games, they would have won the league. And lets all remember, Jose does not lose league games at home.

Yes and agreed.

However, interesting season ahead.

NickDrake

Ush1 wrote: »

Kaka out for at least 3 months + Ozil coming in and playing well + Jose liking it = Success and possible trophies for Ozil.

We all know Kaka is out till Christmas. But you think he will then sit on the bench?? This wont be allowed to happen

His ego is just too big

Mikeyt086

keysersoze_88 wrote: »

That's 12 mikey ha

So it is. Im blinded by rage:pac:

Erm... Lets drop the option there and go with this then:

---

Casillas
Ramos-Pepe-Carvalho-Albiol

---

Khadiera-Alonso
Ronaldo----Ozil

---

Kaka

---

Higuain

Jayob10

People say its foolish, but really its the ultimate challenge. To get into that Madrid team with so much competition is the ultimate challenge right now in football.
it won't be as much of a circus with Mourinho there, if the lad is performing he will play.

gimmick

Kaka has a big ego? Thats news to me.

keane2097

NickDrake wrote: »

We all know Kaka is out till Christmas. But you think he will then sit on the bench?? This wont be allowed to happen

His ego is just too big

He stuck Shevchenko on the bench for Chelsea didn't he?

Nailz

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Kaka hasn't been the player he once was for a couple of seasons now imo - not at club level.

If Ozil deserves his place, Mourinho will give it to him - he isn't going to be bullied into team selections by the Madrid PR machine.

I hope you're right. But I have a feeling by the end of the season Mourinho will be bullied out by the Madrid PR machine...

Ush1

NickDrake wrote: »

We all know Kaka is out till Christmas. But you think he will then sit on the bench?? This wont be allowed to happen

His ego is just too big

He'll have to sit on the bench. He hasn't been fit, let alone played well for a year. I would not be suprised if Kaka just gets injured again anyway.

nullzero

Ozil's a great footballer, but you'd have to question the wisdom of joining Madrid.
On the surface it seems like a perfectly good idea, but how much playing time is he going to get? Will he improve as a player as a result of being at Madrid?
Nobody wants to see a good prospect not develop to their full potential, but Madrid haven't always been the best club to go to in order to develop.

I might be wrong and he might get his game every week, but it's highly unlikely.
For that kind of money there's plenty of clubs who would have been able to offer him much better prospects in terms of development, but it would seem that the lure of Madrid has proved too much once again, we'll just have to wait and see.

NickDrake

gimmick wrote: »

Kaka has a big ego? Thats news to me.

What?? He has a massive ego. Leaving AC Milan for a ton of money after he said he would remain at the club for ever?

You obviously havent heard he was disrupting the dressing room last season and also causing trouble at the world cup?

Ush1

NickDrake wrote: »

What?? He has a massive ego. Leaving AC Milan for a ton of money after he said he would remain at the club for ever?

You obviously havent heard he was disrupting the dressing room last season and also causing trouble at the world cup?

No this is all news to me.

In fact, he didn't even want to leave Milan but they had to sell him.

MisterAnarchy

gimmick wrote: »

Kaka has a big ego? Thats news to me.

Huge ego.
Himself and Ronaldo were reluctant to pass to Higuain for most of last season ,they didnt rate him it seems and they were going for their own glory .
Kaka was hopeless last season for Real.
That Real midfield is oozing with attacking flair .

Mr.Nice Guy

Should be a good move for Madrid. Not sure it's so great for the player though. The likes of Sneijder and Robben had to move on and it wouldn't surprise me if he follows suit in the near future.

Johner

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Huge ego.
Himself and Ronaldo were reluctant to pass to Higuain for most of last season ,they didnt rate him it seems and they were going for their own glory .
Kaka was hopeless last season for Real.
That Real midfield is oozing with attacking flair .

Had a good laugh at that.

NickDrake

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Huge ego.
Himself and Ronaldo were reluctant to pass to Higuain for most of last season ,they didnt rate him it seems and they were going for their own glory .
Kaka was hopeless last season for Real.
That Real midfield is oozing with attacking flair .

Ya here is another example.Kaka was causing fierce problems last year in Madrid. Ego is huge as I said.

Its very odd people on here seem to think going to Madrid is good for a young player. People have very short memories. He will be ruined like so many more.

Its about football not money. Madrid continue to ruin the game and put money before football

redout

Ozil I thought had a good World cup and Khedira was ok but the real star for me was Muller and nobody has a hope of signing him. A serious question mark over these two signings in my opinion as they were bought based on the World cup which is always a dodgy thing to do and does not always workout.

nullzero

redout wrote: »

Ozil I thought had a good World cup and Khedira was ok but the real star for me was Muller and nobody has a hope of signing him. A serious question mark over these two signings in my opinion as they were bought based on the World cup which is always a dodgy thing to do and does not always workout.

Rubbish, just look at Podolski's glorious run after the world cup in 2006, oh hang on...

MementoMori

Saw somewhere recently that Madrid's spending since 2000 passed the billion euro mark recently. Can't remember where I saw it but tis a fairly scarey fact.

That's a lot of money that has trickled down to other clubs (but probably a fair chunk going to lecherous agents as well)

MisterAnarchy

Johner wrote: »

Had a good laugh at that.

It is true .
Ronaldo and Kaka were going for their own glory in the first half of the season blatantly ignoring Higuain when he was the better option for a pass.
There were various dressing room confrontations about it.
Kaka isnt as holy as he makes out .

NickDrake

redout wrote: »

Ozil I thought had a good World cup and Khedira was ok but the real star for me was Muller and nobody has a hope of signing him. A serious question mark over these two signings in my opinion as they were bought based on the World cup which is always a dodgy thing to do and does not always workout.

As I have said on other threads. Ozil has been looking class for the last 2 years. Not based on his world cup. His previous performances were well noted.

Khedira on the other hand will be used as a solid squad player. Nothing Else

nullzero

MementoMori wrote: »

Saw somewhere recently that Madrid's spending since 2000 passed the billion euro mark recently. Can't remember where I saw it but tis a fairly scarey fact.

That's a lot of money that has trickled down to other clubs (but probably a fair chunk going to lecherous agents as well)

I don't think it converted itself into as many trophies as was expected either.

redout

NickDrake wrote: »

As I have said on other threads. Ozil has been looking class for the last 2 years. Not based on his world cup. His previous performances were well noted.

That maybe so but it was his World cup performance which made Madrid sign him and others chase him. I doubt many had even heard of Ozil before the World cup in fairness and certainly not many big clubs were going to be chasing him had there not been a world cup this summer. I favour Wengers thought on the matter of not to sign players based on major championship performances as a lot of the time you can be left disappointed.

eZe^

Fcuk. Madrid have some unreal depth in their team, it's basically a squad of first teamers. That could be their downfall also.

NickDrake

redout wrote: »

That maybe so but it was his World cup performance which made Madrid sign him and others chase him. I doubt many had even heard of Ozil before the World cup in fairness and certainly not many big clubs were going to be chasing him had there not been a world cup this summer. I favour Wengers thought on the matter of not to sign players based on major championship performances as a lot of the time you can be left disappointed.

I agree it was somewhat based on his WC for sure. But not totally.

People had heard of Ozil. you are wrong there. He was known in European football and touted as one to watch in the WC by loads of people.

I'm afraid its you how didnt know who Ozil was. you can be sure Jose did