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400W to power a 400W+ card

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  • 17-08-2010 6:55pm
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    I think I read if the 12V rail has high enough amps the 400W can power a beefy single gfx card. Lets say 400W with a 30A 12V rail, is this enough to power a 460W card?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭lmimmfn


    not necessarily, do you mean a decent PSU capable of sustained 400W or a PSU with a max of 400W?

    If you look at this chart - http://mark.zoomcities.com/images/gfx/GFXpowerchartbybrandgen.png

    An Nvidia 460 uses 216W( i.e. needs about 18 amps on its own ) on 100% load with no overclock, so you've 180W to spare( on a decent PSU, if its a POS youve about 130W to spare ), can be done but can be tight depending on the cpu you intend to use with it


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 18,377 Mod ✭✭✭✭Solitaire


    Broken link is broken. And that sounds too high even for a GTX460+ (or "GS" - 1GB versions, almost always on higher clocks), the GTX460 (768MB) use less than a HD5850 (much less a HD5830!) and should do fine with 10-12A IIRC


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭lmimmfn


    Solitaire wrote: »
    Broken link is broken. And that sounds too high even for a GTX460+ (or "GS" - 1GB versions, almost always on higher clocks), the GTX460 (768MB) use less than a HD5850 (much less a HD5830!) and should do fine with 10-12A IIRC
    sorry, guess they dont like direct linking - http://forums.atomicmpc.com.au/index.php?showtopic=264


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 18,377 Mod ✭✭✭✭Solitaire


    I've had issues with that chart before - some of the peak results are way off in la-la-land (~140W for a stock HD4830? Fail.)

    Ironically, even then the peak 1GB OCd results barely crest 200W... :p As I thought, 768MB version is around the HD4850 area for hungries :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭lmimmfn


    Solitaire wrote: »
    I've had issues with that chart before - some of the peak results are way off in la-la-land (~140W for a stock HD4830? Fail.)

    Ironically, even then the peak 1GB OCd results barely crest 200W... :p As I thought, 768MB version is around the HD4850 area for hungries :)
    nah, i agree, but at the same time its the only chart out there to cover most gpus and without researching each and every one its impossible to tell.

    I never like cutting it close on power though, value my components too much.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36 nVital


    lmimmfn wrote: »
    do you mean a decent PSU capable of sustained 400W

    Crosair CX400W


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 18,377 Mod ✭✭✭✭Solitaire


    I guessed from the 30A :D

    Personally, its a bit tight, and if you have a 95-125W CPU in there I'd far rather go for a decent 450-500W model for the 768MB version, and a 550W PSU for the 1GB version (those also have higher clock speeds and an extra render back-end, so they suck quite a bit more juice! :o)

    If you had the 768MB version and a stock- or light-OC (<+30% clock and no overvolt!!) 65-80W CPU (dualies) and only a basic system otherwise (no RAID array! :p) you'd fit fairly well on a 30A rail, probably topping out 16-18A in intense gaming (titles that press both CPU and GPU hard) with the odd peak beyond that (especially in Crysis and OCCT; such spikes count against the PSU's 100% load limit instead of the 40-60% load preference as they are atypical). With a "low"-95W CPU (AMD tri-cores, i5-7xx) at or very near stock you could squeeze one in but it becomes less comfortable, with sustained loads reaching and possibly slightly exceeding 20A.

    I wouldn't be comfortable running a 1GB GTX460, or any GTX460 either OCd over ~10% or with a "heavy"-95W (X4-945/i7-8xx) or higher-TDP CPU(or a heavily OCd X3/i3/i5) on any rig with 30A or less capacity - time to head for the 40A hills of 500W+ PSUs!


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