Killzone 3

whiterebel

pablomakaveli wrote: »

It's nowhere near as good as battlefield for me but definitely trumps the likes of COD,MOH etc.

And lets face it the Helghast are the coolest bad guys in any shooter.

Especially when you take their helmet off from distance when they're behind cover, then finish them with a headshot........:D

WarZoneBrother

J. Marston wrote: »

4 hours only? Wow.
Cheers though, I was thinking of getting this but there is no chance I'm paying €50 for a 4 hour campaign.
Might give it a rent.

Yeah.. And now I am playing on Elite and it seems to me it's much easier LOL.. Elite mode is so freaking easy its insane.. I remember Lost Planet 2 having on of the hardest difficulties ever but Killzone 3 is just taken the p1ss with Elite mode..

Killzone 2 was also much harder game I taught especially with the boss at the end.. Going to try and plat this anyways.. If theres no major hard trophies I could have it done by next week 51% atm..

WolfForager

Is everyone here using Euopean or American worlds? Thinking of switching to American just so i can understand what people are saying, but is the lag bad?

Notorioux

Good game tonight lads \:)/

Finished the single player a while ago. I have to say I am very disappointed. Keeping it short or I'll be typing all night:visually it's stunning but the whole thing is a bloody mess. The plot made little to no sense. Rico is even more annoying than in KZ2. I didn't think that would be possible to achieve but they managed it. The rest of the charachters are just as bad. Why did they completely rewrite Narville and turn him into a pansy? What happened to Natko? Sev is a non entity. The audio is totally f***ed.The ending was rubbish too.:mad:
It seemed good in the demo but the full game just isn't worth the money. I wish I had just rented it instead of spending 60 quid on it.
Rant over.

pablomakaveli

Just finished the single player as well. I thought the KZ2 single player was better though but this one wasn't too bad. Would have been nicer if it was longer though.

WarZoneBrother

Deleted User wrote: »

Finished the single player a while ago. I have to say I am very disappointed. Keeping it short or I'll be typing all night:visually it's stunning but the whole thing is a bloody mess. The plot made little to no sense. Rico is even more annoying than in KZ2. I didn't think that would be possible to achieve but they managed it. The rest of the charachters are just as bad. Why did they completely rewrite Narville and turn him into a pansy? What happened to Natko? Sev is a non entity. The audio is totally f***ed.The ending was rubbish too.:mad:
It seemed good in the demo but the full game just isn't worth the money. I wish I had just rented it instead of spending 60 quid on it.
Rant over.

NOTE DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVE NOT FINISHED IT..

wonder who that was getting off the space ship... I think it could be Visari.. Even though he is dead, but that would make the game better.. Them 2 Helghast leaders where just so annoying..

Anyways I have just got to the demo part in it on Elite so may finish that today or tomorrow...

Grumpypants

WarZoneBrother wrote: »

NOTE DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVE NOT FINISHED IT..

wonder who that was getting off the space ship... I think it could be Visari.. Even though he is dead, but that would make the game better.. Them 2 Helghast leaders where just so annoying..

Anyways I have just got to the demo part in it on Elite so may finish that today or tomorrow...

I thought it was the daughter of the admiral..if you see the cut scene near the start he is walking through and a girl comes up and says father and takes his hand, thats all you see of her but it was obscure enough to make it important... just have to wait 2 or 3 years to find out LOL

Nialer24

I found the story made perfect sense, they kill Visiari then the admiral takes over but guy who owns the private military company wants the power. Simple.
The ISA escape from Visaris palace but the cant evacuate as the command ship is shot down, it takes them 6 months to establish contact (sneaking mission) then they are told the ISA have ended the war so cant come rescue them and they need to surrender. Sev and Rice find out that the Helgast are going to launch a blitz against earth so head off to try and warn them but have no time to other than to take out the cruiser, Which causes a chain reaction on the planet that releases all this new radiation and sets it up for KZ4

WarZoneBrother

Grumpypants wrote: »

I thought it was the daughter of the admiral..if you see the cut scene near the start he is walking through and a girl comes up and says father and takes his hand, thats all you see of her but it was obscure enough to make it important... just have to wait 2 or 3 years to find out LOL

Ohh yes I see.. But did the Helghan not say 'sir' or something like that.. I will pay more attention when I finish it on elite.. Yeah you have to be right there, otherwise why would she be in the video.. Well spotted .. Hopefully next time they actually have a long story

Grumpypants

WarZoneBrother wrote: »

Ohh yes I see.. But did the Helghan not say 'sir' or something like that.. I will pay more attention when I finish it on elite.. Yeah you have to be right there, otherwise why would she be in the video.. Well spotted .. Hopefully next time they actually have a long story

Dam i think they did say sir, or was it Admiral ?? Now i have to go back and check again LOL she is an option for them, maybe it was Starch at the end (if thats his name i cant remember private army guy) but she will rise up against him to avenge her father.....

GothPunk

Stahl is easily the best character in the entire series so I hope it was him in that pod!

I'm very surprised at how short the game was for me, I played first on Veteran and I'm glad I did as if I'd played on Trooper I would have finished it way too quickly - I died quite a lot on some parts.

Dying so many times makes you realise how great the AI is though, as a fight would never play out the same way.

I think I'll have to play through KZ2 and KZ3 again back to back to decide which is the better game. As with games like this I'm not sure if they're supposed to be funny or serious, as I find myself laughing at the things that are happening or the things that they say to each other. If it's supposed to be funny KZ3 is probably better.

Anyone else think the game feels a little rushed? Cutscenes seemed a little skippy and it seemed like maybe some of the story was cut out?

And the ending? Seriously WTF?! moment right there. They were probably going for a bleak ending but in execution it just comes off abrupt, especially when compared to the 'We're fooked' ending of KZ2.

The MP is so delicious, and that's even before they fix some of the things that are broken. Delicious I say!

Grumpypants

Grumpypants wrote: »

I thought it was the daughter of the admiral..if you see the cut scene near the start he is walking through and a girl comes up and says father and takes his hand, thats all you see of her but it was obscure enough to make it important... just have to wait 2 or 3 years to find out LOL

Nialer24

I found the story made perfect sense, they kill Visiari then the admiral takes over but guy who owns the private military company wants the power. Simple.
The ISA escape from Visaris palace but the cant evacuate as the command ship is shot down, it takes them 6 months to establish contact (sneaking mission) then they are told the ISA have ended the war so cant come rescue them and they need to surrender. Sev and Rice find out that the Helgast are going to launch a blitz against earth so head off to try and warn them but have no time to other than to take out the cruiser, Which causes a chain reaction on the planet that releases all this new radiation and sets it up for KZ4

I know it's simple, thats the problem. I just thought it was rubbish from start to ridiculous finish! KZ2 was much better. Multiplayer isn't bad but the single player campaign is terrible in my opinion.

Grayditch

I think I'm only enjoying the single player because of the Sharpshooter.

WolfForager

Just finished it(Veteran)! Have to say i really enjoyed it, good fun! Found the story easy enough to follow, i don't understand how all the review sites found it confusing? :S

Ending was a bit of a let down alright, i've always hated games/movies that don't wrap things up nicely at the end :P. Looking forward to KZ4! (Even though i've heard GG are now working on a new IP)

WarZoneBrother

Grumpypants wrote: »

Dam i think they did say sir, or was it Admiral ?? Now i have to go back and check again LOL she is an option for them, maybe it was Starch at the end (if thats his name i cant remember private army guy) but she will rise up against him to avenge her father.....

Maybe we should have a thread for people who have finished it instead of all these spoilers ... Anyways here:

It actually was ''welcome back sir'' heres link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhBwKPsboI4 go to 2.37

I found it confusing because I was not sure what time zone I was in.. 1 minute your 6 months later the next your 6 months earlier .. And it never even showed you that you where changing dates.. It just said it once, but it happened a few times changing through dates AFAIK..

WolfForager

8 simple reasons you suck at Killzone 3 multiplayer

http://www.gamesradar.com/f/8-simple-reasons-you-suck-at-killzone-3-multiplayer/a-20110225163030867012/p-2

mystic86

just finished this game - only got it this morning

@WarZoneBrother - u said 4 hours 10 mins? im not sure if I believe that, also are you including in that all the cutscenes? apparently they add up to 75 mins

it took me 7 hours 45 minutes incl the cutscenes

I really enjoyed this game, the variation and new locations and everything really added to it and it was very enjoyable. I love the jungle part - reminds me of avatar.

I think kz2 is defo harder, but this is coming from someone with not a whole lot of experience in fps games, some but not loads. i played kz3 on trooper.

@nialler24 i strongly disagree with almost everything u think about this game, only exception being the graphics comment - i agree they are unreal.

I'm confused by something in the storyline, please if someone could clarify it for me id appreciate it:

We are on Helghan planet for most of the game...at the end do we transfer to a spaceship just above the surface of earth? cause before you make it to the spaceship at the very end, outside the windows you can see what i think is earth, it looks like it. if thats earth then what planet got destroyed after the nuke? cause it wasnt earth..confused

p.s. i thought the storyline was good enough, especially after hearing all the pre-release criticsm.

kearneybobs

I was getting really annoyed at the multiplayer yesterday. I kept on getting kicked due to 'session master not being available'

I got kicked right when the servers went down yesterday at 4p.m. That's ok. I can understand that. But when I started playing last night I ended up getting kicked three times in the whole night. Twice when I had over 5000 points. Grrr.

That being said, I really do still love the multiplayer though. Gonna be sinking more hours into it definitely.

Anyone set up the BOC yet? Anyone interested?

WolfForager

Boc is set up, ask warzonebrother for an invite.

YouSavedMyLife

WolfForager wrote: »

Boc is set up, ask warzonebrother for an invite.

Just sent him a msg for an invite. Was playing warzone last night on the Jetpack map, turbine something or other and my team was locked inside our spawn for almost the entire game! I was playing an Eng and had to switch to a Tac to attempt to take those high platform spawn points, total frustration. Thats one thing i like about CoD, you can jump into a game as a random and do well, but i also hate that you dont really need work as a team in it neither

Grayditch

Varik wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9DFhaZ6DBs

Move seems to be ok for this, i like the new weapon equipped method.

I wouldn't like to use the Move like this. With the Sharpshooter, you're literally aiming the gun with your whole upper body and it's actually quite effective.

I put the deadzone to zero so the camera starts turning a lot earlier. I'll play around with it even more to get it right, but it's a lot of fun. Sitting down using the Sharpshooter is literally impossible, as the pain surges through your back and arms, but standing up I could play for over 30 mins without noticing the weight.

The joy of getting three perfect headshots in as many seconds was only ruined by my ridiculous attempt to run up stairs. I'm looking forward to getting better with the player movement side of things.

Grayditch

Just realised that was a video from the first page

pablomakaveli

briankearon666 wrote: »

I was getting really annoyed at the multiplayer yesterday. I kept on getting kicked due to 'session master not being available'

I got kicked right when the servers went down yesterday at 4p.m. That's ok. I can understand that. But when I started playing last night I ended up getting kicked three times in the whole night. Twice when I had over 5000 points. Grrr.

I got the "session master not available" as well this morning. The game just sort of froze beforehand and it came up on the bottom of the screen. I got disconntected a few seconds later.

I really wish they'd have something like in BFBC2 where your experience is logged as you play instead of at the end of the match. It's really frustrating to lose a few thousand exp when you get disconnected.

WarZoneBrother

mystic86 wrote: »

just finished this game - only got it this morning

@WarZoneBrother - u said 4 hours 10 mins? im not sure if I believe that, also are you including in that all the cutscenes? apparently they add up to 75 mins

it took me 7 hours 45 minutes incl the cutscenes

I am including without cut scenes.. I will take pic of the times if you want? But I do not see the point in that because why would I lie?.. How do you check how long it took incl cutscenes?... I just went to select chapter and added each time and I got 4hrs 10mins.. Note that there is 8 chapters and longest one took me 37mins..

mystic86

i thought there was 9 chapters?

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-02-22-killzone-3-video-walkthrough

Edit: just checked my game - there are 9 chapters. I added up the time for me - it adds to 5 hours 40 minutes. But its not accurate and I know that for definate cause I timed myself and it took 7 hours 45 mins - now apparently there is 75 mins of cutscreens so subtract that from my time and u get 6 hours 30 mins - thats how long it actually took - not 5 hours 40 minutes, it didn't track that properly.... so maybe ur time is really a bit longer than what the game is saying too.

GothPunk

When I get home later I'll post my time as well as I finished the game pretty quickly - I was suprised actually at how fast I finished it, even though I was playing on Veteran. I don't think I did it in 4.5 hours, more like 6 probably. The game may not count the times where you died and had to replay a section, which is what Vanquish does and it led to people reporting shorter playtimes for that game also.

In a way I don't mind it being short I guess, I think the game has a lot of replayability, especially with co-op and Move controls. Also the fact that it's a rollercoaster ride from start to finish, and a shorter game means that no mechanic has a chance to get stale.

I was listening to some podcasts and so have heard quite a few differing opinions on Killzone 3's story, and I think I understand the problem people (well reviewers) have with the story. The problem with it is that it's so much better than Killzone 2, the acting is great (Malcolm MacDowell is just fantastic, his voice is like ear sex) and so you get really into it and it promises a lot. Then, towards the end, it kind of drops the ball.

Where did that nuke come from?

It's like the game is building up to this great climax and then it's not that great, or at least it wasn't for me. I think my complaints about the game are seeing that it came so close to perfection and just missed the mark.

But who cares. It's fun. Like super fun. Jetpacks and giant robots and GIGANTIC walking mechas fun. Multiplayer is fúcking rad (High five Boardsies Clan!). Vanquish has spoiled me on action games and as Killzone 3 is able to stand shoulder to shoulder with that game for me that means it's a winner.

Grumpypants

WarZoneBrother wrote: »

I am including without cut scenes.. I will take pic of the times if you want? But I do not see the point in that because why would I lie?.. How do you check how long it took incl cutscenes?... I just went to select chapter and added each time and I got 4hrs 10mins.. Note that there is 8 chapters and longest one took me 37mins..

I put 4 hours into night one and around 4-5 into night two to finish it but when i add up my times it says 5 hours 10mins. It shows your best times not total time so it takes out deaths and cut scenes.

WarZoneBrother

Grumpypants wrote: »

I put 4 hours into night one and around 4-5 into night two to finish it but when i add up my times it says 5 hours 10mins. It shows your best times not total time so it takes out deaths and cut scenes.

Ohh right I get ya now.. I didnt notice much more time than that though.. Like with cut scenes out and all.. Only took me 2 solid sessions and the 1st session was only an hour or 2 maybe 3 I forget... I wouldnt say it took over 7hours with cut scenes anyways

WarZoneBrother

mystic86 wrote: »

i thought there was 9 chapters?

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-02-22-killzone-3-video-walkthrough

Edit: just checked my game - there are 9 chapters. I added up the time for me - it adds to 5 hours 40 minutes. But its not accurate and I know that for definate cause I timed myself and it took 7 hours 45 mins - now apparently there is 75 mins of cutscreens so subtract that from my time and u get 6 hours 30 mins - thats how long it actually took - not 5 hours 40 minutes, it didn't track that properly.... so maybe ur time is really a bit longer than what the game is saying too.

I wouldnt call the first chapter much of a chapter now... It was just training... Well when I was paying attention on clock it would have only taken 6 hours about with cut scenes maybe 6 and a half... still it wouldn't have taken over 5 hours with cutscenes I don't think..

YouSavedMyLife

Some of the maps in this game are terrible. Actually most of them are. Just got off a Warzone game on Mawlr Graveyard and seriously what the ****. There are three impossble to pass choke points in this map, the two rooms each side and the crusher. Good look getting past those and trying to plant a bomb. I resorted to camping in one of the rooms with a bot an ammo cache and that mental LMG, throwing 3 nades out of enemy side of the room and then re-stocking and repeating. Good TDM map, oh i forgot its not on the TDM map list.

PaddyBomb

What were they thinking with the Marksman class? The best AR in the game goes to the sniper class. An absolute beast of a machine pistol goes to them too. Crazy

WolfForager

A popular explanation to the ending currently circulating the interwebs:

Apparently in the game there is a mural of Radec, Stahl, Visari and a bloke who looks the spit of Visari (a double maybe?), i don't know where this mural is (it is there apparently) but i'll check the opening credits when i get home. In the opening credits Visari's daughter is seen to pull her hand away from her father and feign disgust, this is believed to be because she realizes it is not her father. Therefore it can be concluded that the 'Visari' that was killed by Rico was the aforementioned double, thus we can believe that the character that lands on Helghan at the end of the game is the real Visari!!! DUN DUN DUN!!!!

WarZoneBrother

WolfForager wrote: »

A popular explanation to the ending currently circulating the interwebs:

Apparently in the game there is a mural of Radec, Stahl, Visari and a bloke who looks the spit of Visari (a double maybe?), i don't know where this mural is (it is there apparently) but i'll check the opening credits when i get home. In the opening credits Visari's daughter is seen to pull her hand away from her father and feign disgust, this is believed to be because she realizes it is not her father. Therefore it can be concluded that the 'Visari' that was killed by Rico was the aforementioned double, thus we can believe that the character that lands on Helghan at the end of the game is the real Visari!!! DUN DUN DUN!!!!

I don't fecking believe it.. This is exactly what I was thinking earlier, never got a chance to post though..!

I think if you also check ending of Killzone 2 Visari does say something smart to him in that (or his double).. All points lead to Visari and him coming back will only lead to an awesome game and story, unlike that of Killzone 3.. I hated that Stahl dude..

WarZoneBrother wrote: »

NOTE DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVE NOT FINISHED IT..

wonder who that was getting off the space ship... I think it could be Visari.. Even though he is dead, but that would make the game better.. Them 2 Helghast leaders where just so annoying..

Anyways I have just got to the demo part in it on Elite so may finish that today or tomorrow...

Hehe whist I already did post it ...

Btw YouSavedMyLife nice sig

pablomakaveli

WolfForager wrote: »

A popular explanation to the ending currently circulating the interwebs:

Apparently in the game there is a mural of Radec, Stahl, Visari and a bloke who looks the spit of Visari (a double maybe?), i don't know where this mural is (it is there apparently) but i'll check the opening credits when i get home. In the opening credits Visari's daughter is seen to pull her hand away from her father and feign disgust, this is believed to be because she realizes it is not her father. Therefore it can be concluded that the 'Visari' that was killed by Rico was the aforementioned double, thus we can believe that the character that lands on Helghan at the end of the game is the real Visari!!! DUN DUN DUN!!!!

It's plausible but i found it hard to believe.

If Visari was still alive then he would have returned to rule at some point in the 6 months that elapsed after his death. That said i still think it would be great if he was brought back though given Helghan seemed to be obliterated i wonder how the Helghast would be able to come back from that.

WarZoneBrother

pablomakaveli wrote: »

It's plausible but i found it hard to believe.

If Visari was still alive then he would have returned to rule at some point in the 6 months that elapsed after his death. That said i still think it would be great if he was brought back though given Helghan seemed to be obliterated i wonder how the Helghast would be able to come back from that.

Good point.. But tbh if you faked your own death would you show your face before 6 months .. I know I wouldn't... Stahl just wore down the ISA now if Visari is back I hope he just destroys them and Killzone 4 will probably be the last one, but never know..

WolfForager

To further back up my claims:

I'm sure you've noticed this, but in the scene before you reach the start menu when "Visari" is giving his speech, you can see Radec, Stahl and a soldier on a platform from which a shuttle is leaving, once the shuttle has left Stahl shoots the soldier to eliminate any witnesses, obviously whoever is on this shuttle is very VERY important... *cough* Visari *cough*

WarZoneBrother

WolfForager wrote: »

To further back up my claims:

I'm sure you've noticed this, but in the scene before you reach the start menu when "Visari" is giving his speech, you can see Radec, Stahl and a soldier on a platform from which a shuttle is leaving, once the shuttle has left Stahl shoots the soldier to eliminate any witnesses, obviously whoever is on this shuttle is very VERY important... *cough* Visari *cough*

was it not radec that done the shooting?.. also is radec not dead? did we not kill him at end of 2nd one?..

Yeah it was Radec that shot him.. Also at the end of that scene it appears this was said: ''Sir we have to move the ISA are here''... That obviously means that someone got away before the ISA could get to them AKA Visari

WolfForager

Either way, the soldier was still shot :P I think this happened well before the end of KZ2

WarZoneBrother

WolfForager wrote: »

Either way, the soldier was still shot :P I think this happened well before the end of KZ2

Ohh yes silly me haha... I posted an extra bit just there if you want to check it out in previous comment.. not sure what it means though

WolfForager

Yep, i think we can safely conclude that if there is indeed a KZ4, Visari will make one hell of a return!

TestTransmission

Anyone playing this with the sharpshooter?

WarZoneBrother

More from watching the vid again...
The person who is the Vasari look alike says ''all preparations are in order... And also ''the package is ready''...

I fecking loved Visari so I hope to god that KZ4 does come and we see him return and possibly wipe out all ISA.. Because personally wiping them out would be the best way to go

Suspiria79

Killzone 3 is for fanboys only

WolfForager

Suspiria79 wrote: »

Killzone 3 is for fanboys only

What?

WarZoneBrother

WolfForager wrote: »

What?

LOL exactly.. WTF.. just because he is jealous that it aint on his xbox and never will be !

kearneybobs

Just had some really good games in Warzone there....on my own.:( Twice in a row I got over 14000 points. I think I have my new weapon combo sorted. I'm unstoppable. :pac:

I really really hate it when people just sit around (in doorways too) waiting for people to come to them or they are sniping. They seem to forget that there are objectives to be achieved. Sometimes I find that I'm the only one heading towards the objective. :mad:
Hence, why I die a lot but seem to get some points for objectives.

What class/loadouts are you all going for?
I'm playing medic, fully kitted out with both the top weapons for the medic
with the extra ammo perk. No need to worry about collecting ammo for me!

WarZoneBrother

briankearon666 wrote: »

Just had some really good games in Warzone there....on my own.:( Twice in a row I got over 14000 points. I think I have my new weapon combo sorted. I'm unstoppable. :pac:

I really really hate it when people just sit around (in doorways too) waiting for people to come to them or they are sniping. They seem to forget that there are objectives to be achieved. Sometimes I find that I'm the only one heading towards the objective. :mad:
Hence, why I die a lot but seem to get some points for objectives.

What class/loadouts are you all going for?
I'm playing medic, fully kitted out with both the top weapons for the medic
with the extra ammo perk. No need to worry about collecting ammo for me!

Hehe I am one of those snipers

Sniping is just unbeatable.. But I only snipe on certain maps which I know.. I think it's fair for snipers to stay and kill enemies that are going towards the objectives too.. But what is gay is in one of the maps the ISA spawn point every time theres campers with RPG's sitting in there beside ammo crate firing rockets every 2 secs just waiting for someone to come through.. It is one of the jetpack maps..

YouSavedMyLife

Maining the Eng at the moment. Unlocked everything bar the last sidearm. Putting Turrets in camper type spots in the corners of rooms, or facing corners of hallways so people walk through and even if the rocket misses them it hits a fall and blows them up The last LMG unlock is a beast of a weapon. In fire fights i drop down to crouch and it decreases the crosshair spread immensely. The other LMG is handy for long range maps.

Second class is the Tact only cause if someone on my team isnt using Tact and we dont take spawns and the enemy do your team will get owned hard. Recon with the Silenced SMG is a great run and gun set up also.

PaddyBomb

I'm using Tactician at moment and unlocking Infiltrator with my unlock points as I get them. Really like the assault rifle in this class and the bots get you a lot of assist points with a few kills a game.

Too many Marksmen in this game and it's really frustrating when you seem to be the only person going for the objective. The controls are perfect, not too heavy and not too light but I think they've messed around with the multiplayer a bit too much. All though I'm enjoying it, I'd like to see a few changes and a few more things from KZ2 added in.

kearneybobs

There way too many snipers in this game. Like every other multiplayer shooter out there.

Any specific reasoin as to why I get stuck on the same map sometimes when playing Warzone. It's usually the one from KZ2 with the mechs.
And that one never seems to be included in the list of maps when you get to pick which one you wanna play on next?