Root canal treatment for molar - crazy price

Preciousmims

Hi

I'm just looking for some advice.
I need to get root canal treatment done on a molar and have been quoted €950 for the treatment and an extra €250 for a crown if needed, €1200 in total. (Practice is in Dublin) I feel that this amount of money seems crazy to be paying for this treatment and should be able to get a better price for good quality work elsewhere in rep of Ireland. Am I right?

georgieporgy

which molar is it?

Preciousmims

It's the back right molar.

georgieporgy

there are generally 3 upper and 3 lower molars on each side in a full dentition.
the complexity of rootcanal treatment varies depending on which tooth. (that's why i'm asking)

other factors like age and how heavily filled or decayed the tooth is has a bearing also. and is your quote from a specialist or a gp?

Preciousmims

Its the lower back right molar. The quote is from a specialist but he hasn't seen me yet. I said to the receptionist that the price may change when he sees it but she said "no thats the price".The consultation is €100 and now I'm thinking that prices may be extra high because it's Dublin. I really don't know what to do. Thanks for your replies

Big_G

250 seams inordinately low for a crown...

georgieporgy

950 for a lower molar by a specialist sounds middle of the range. A gp would probably be 6-800. (we charge 750, not in Dublin)

the 250 sounds like a fee for a core build up by the same specialist?

a crown would tend to be 6-900 depending on a variety of things.

(for example i charge 800 for crowns and that includes any necessary postcore buildups) somme dentists price these things separately.

Preciousmims

Big_G : This was quoted to me by the same specialist.

Georgieporgie: I think I'll shop around and see. Even €100 cheaper would make a difference. There are so many different guys out there providing the treatment though!

Thanks.

Stheno

Price sounds pretty normal to me I paid €900 for a root canal on a molar two years ago.

brianon

I had a tooth pulled today. Was given option of tooth extraction or root canal/crown.

Was told a root canal would be 750 and the crown would be 800. Sounds like your getting a good deal !

Bicycle

I had a lower middle molar root canalled and crowned earlier this year.

The RCT was by a specialist (in the Wesht) and cost €900 for consultation plus RCT. The tooth did not need a build-up and the endodontist did the amalgam filling. The crown done by my own (lovely) dentist cost €1,200.

I think you've got a real bargain.

btkm8unsl0w5r4

I wouldnt want a crown in my head that cost only 250 euro, thats really cheap. Are you sure its a crown and not a big filling.

Molar root canal is expensive and complex the price is about correct for a specialist endodontist.
If its a specialist carrying out the treatment, then you WILL find it cheaper eslewhere not with a specialist. If you value the expertise the specialist brings then its money well spent. Best to it right and do it once.

day dreamer

It sounds like about the right price the root canal treatment and maybe a post (replaces the missing core of the tooth after the root canal treatment and is cemented into the root) or a large filling.

for a crown €250 would be very cheap, it would barely cover the lab costs of getting it made up. You save a little by shopping around but not very much i would think. It is a big investment but worth it to keep the tooth

Preciousmims

Thanks everyone for your advice.
Just to clarify the prices that I mentioned above incase anyone is doing a search on this topic ,the €250 is indeed for a core build up and not for a crown as I initially thought.

Thanks again.

recedite

I paid €470 for RCT plus a ceramic inlay on a molar, lower 7, this time last year in a prime dental practice in Budapest. Excellent work, no problems.
I had to stay there for a week though, eating out, seeing the sights, and enjoying the hot springs. At the end of all that we (2 people) had spent just over a grand in total, inc the dentist and flights and accommodation, so its gonna cost you either way. But a much better way to spend a grand IMO.
Also they don't have pure endodontists over there; instead dentists who have additional training/ experience in endodontics. Their standards are very high IMO, better than here.

foret

"Their standards are very high IMO, better than here."


I am glad you had a good experience. Budapest I agree is a
wonderful city.

However i disagree that root canal treatment is better.

My experience is that it is not up to treatment carried out by endodontists in
ireland.

Not by a country mile ,IMHO.

That is not saying you didnt have competent treatment.

henryporter

Can't beat the endodontists for root canal work - I had two done in the US about 10 years ago, both pain free during treatment and trouble free since then. Cost about $350 each at the time.

alex73

Preciousmims wrote: »

Hi

I'm just looking for some advice.
I need to get root canal treatment done on a molar and have been quoted €950 for the treatment and an extra €250 for a crown if needed, €1200 in total. (Practice is in Dublin) I feel that this amount of money seems crazy to be paying for this treatment and should be able to get a better price for good quality work elsewhere in rep of Ireland. Am I right?

I went to get a Root canal treatment done 10 years ago, A dentist on Fitzwilliam Square can't remember her name, £500 just for the treatment not even a crown. But the treatment was very well done.

Did one in sligo 4 years ago and was not half as good. Paid less and the filling was not that good.

Personally I would pay the 1000 euros IF the treatment is top class and lasts.....

recedite

foret wrote: »

"Their standards are very high IMO, better than here."

However i disagree that root canal treatment is better.

My experience is that it is not up to treatment carried out by endodontists in
ireland.

Just to clarify; I mean that in my experience their standards of general dentistry are better, such as in regard to preparatory procedures, the inlay, surgery and equipment, general attitude to patients etc.
I would imagine that an Irish endodontist would be as good or better at just RCT, seeing as he does nothing else. However, that does not seem to me to justify the prices he charges. Then you would have to go back to your general purpose dentist afterwards for all the restoration work.

georgieporgy

recedite wrote: »

I paid €470 for RCT plus a ceramic inlay on a molar, lower 7, this time last year in a prime dental practice in Budapest. Excellent work, no problems.
I had to stay there for a week though, eating out, seeing the sights, and enjoying the hot springs. At the end of all that we (2 people) had spent just over a grand in total, inc the dentist and flights and accommodation, so its gonna cost you either way. But a much better way to spend a grand IMO.
Also they don't have pure endodontists over there; instead dentists who have additional training/ experience in endodontics. Their standards are very high IMO, better than here.

Sounds good. did the inlay cover the cusps? What occlusal thickness of ceramic?

recedite

georgieporgy wrote: »

Sounds good. did the inlay cover the cusps? What occlusal thickness of ceramic?

Then it would be an onlay, but I don't think there is any point to your query other than a vain attempt to undermine my credibility, and distract from the issue raised by the OP.

georgieporgy

recedite wrote: »

Then it would be an onlay, but I don't think there is any point to your query other than a vain attempt to undermine my credibility, and distract from the issue raised by the OP.

There is a point. I had actually hoped for your sake you had meant onlay.:)

btkm8unsl0w5r4

All root canal treated molars should have full coverage, inlays don't cut the mustard for coronal reinforcement. Chance of having that tooth in you head in 5 years is 50%.

I dont think that getting dental treatment cheaper in a low cost economy is a shock to anyone. In fact, I bet that the jobs, services or goods of any poster on here can be done cheaper by somebody in eastern europe.

recedite

It is technically an onlay, not an inlay, due to the extent and volume of occlusal coverage of vitreous material. But the fact that a patient's knowledge of the technical terminology is limited is no reflection of the quality of the treatment. I wouldn't really call it a low cost economy, any more than Spain. Definitely slightly lower than here, but not like say, India or Vietnam. Most things are a bit cheaper but dentistry is about five times cheaper for some reason.

btkm8unsl0w5r4

Eh hungary is a low cost economy and Dental work is no more than half the price, and in my experiences it the quality thats 5 times less.....but thats just my experience.

I dont know what vitreous material is, virtuous silica is a clear ceramic not used in dentistry. Root treated molars should receive full coverage crowns, either a inlay or onlay is not suitable.

recedite

Also, I am always slightly amused at the slightly condescending catch all term "eastern Europeans" being applied to countries as far apart as Estonia and Poland in the north and Bulgaria in the east. There was a point to it in the days of the Iron Curtain, but not now. The term was adopted by Irish people during the Celtic tiger years to label the novelty immigrants, along with that other tautology the "Non-National" (which thankfully has now largely been replaced with "foreign national".
Similarly, in Cold War terminology Italy is part of western europe, but a quick look at your atlas will reveal that it lies in the south.

The Austro Hungarian empire was of course at the cultural heart of Europe for much of European history. We are the ones on the fringes.

recedite

Veda Large Tombstone wrote: »

Eh hungary is a low cost economy and Dental work is no more than half the price, and in my experiences it the quality thats 5 times less.....but thats just my experience..

..and your opinion.

Veda Large Tombstone wrote: »

I dont know what vitreous material is..

see here;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitreous_enamel
(porcelain)

btkm8unsl0w5r4

recedite wrote: »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitreous_enamel
(porcelain)

Did you read that link? Vitreous enamel has nothing to do with dentistry, Thats porcelain like on sink or enamel like on a bathtub, felspathic procelain among others are used in dentistry, your points are best made without misusing technicial words lifted from google or wikipedia.

Hungary is a eastern European country and a low cost economy compared to ireland.....these are facts, you points while verbose do not take away from this truth.

My opinions like yours are borne from my experience.

recedite

Veda Large Tombstone wrote: »

Hungary is a eastern European country and a low cost economy compared to ireland.....these are facts

Yes, its definitely a slightly cheaper place and east of Ireland.
As to whether a porcelain onlay is made of "a vitreous material", well I thought it was, but maybe some dentist could give a verdict on that?
These are not really major issues of disagreement anyway.

annieoburns

another option to consider for that kind of money is an implant.

btkm8unsl0w5r4

I am a dentist, and virtuous means clear, and root treated molars should all have crowns. An implant will be more than than if you take the extraction, crown and abutment into account. Probably twice that.

The average wage in Ireland is 47000 UDS and in Hungary is 15300 USD (OECD figures)....