Liverpool v Trabzonspor Thursday 7:45 [Match Thread]

MementoMori

So the Europa League Thursday night action continues.

17 more games to Landsdowne Road.

Masch and Dagger out of the game with knocks and doubtful for the City game

Dagger sounds like he's not in the greatest of shape at all

Reposted the bit about the squad list named on Monday. Even though Poulsen wasnt named Roy says he is in the squad - presume it's a late injury call-up deal.

I think we could see a pretty stong line-up for this as Trabzonspor are no mugs and we really don't want to be going to Turkey looking for a result.

Joe Cole is a dead cert for the ninety minutes I'd imagine (unless he gets sent off again ) Wouldnt be surprised to see Carra and Skrtel as CBs - and I would imagine Johnson at RB. Between Kelly and Aurelio at LB and I think this will depend on Aurelio's fitness. If Fabio does start I'd be surprised if he plays the full 90 given his match fitness so Kelly coudl be on for a sub appearance at some stage.

Midfield is a bit of a mine-field between Gerrard, Lucas, Poulsen and Aquilani.
Would guess at Gerrard starting behing Cole with one of Lucas or Poulsen beside him. I'd hazard a guess at Poulsen as Lucas could be saved for the City game if Masch is doubtful. Aquilani to probably replace Gerrard in the second half.

Up front I'd imagine Dave to start with Torres probably sprung around the 60 minute mark. Could see Babel start on the left and might be that Kuyt is rested for Maxi. Some people might be disappointed by the lack of young'uns to feature but I reckon the plan is use the first-teamers to get to the group stages which would give us greater scope to use fringe players/youngsters against the weaker opposition in some of these games. This game is about getting a result while carefully managing the squad on the fitness/sharpness balance with City's game on Monday in mind.

Both ITV and Setanta Ireland are showing this.

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Reina

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-Johnson--Carra-Skretl--Aurelio-

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Gerrard----Poulsen

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--Maxi

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Cole

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Babel--

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Dave

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Subs: Cav, Kyrgiakos, Kelly, Torres, Lucas, Kuyt, Jovanovic


Trivia Fact: One Rigobert Song was their captain last year but was released in the summer.

No Masch versus Trabzonspor
18th Aug 2010 - Latest News

Javier Mascherano and Daniel Agger will not feature against Trabzonspor on Thursday night after picking up injuries against Arsenal.

Mascherano sustained a pull in his calf while Agger is still suffering from concussion after a ball to the face which has left him with no recollection of Sunday's clash.

Both players now face a race against time to be fit for Monday's match at Manchester City.

Asked by reporters whether Mascherano was in his plans for the Europa League play-off, Roy Hodgson said: "Javier will always be in my plans until the day comes when he leaves the club. And for me that will be a long time in the future if I can get my wish. But he's injured at the moment and won't play tomorrow.

"He came off after about 80 minutes on Sunday with a slight pull in his calf muscles and has only just started to jog today.

"The worry for us is that he won't be fit for Monday.

"Daniel got concussed so he's not doing that well. We're three days after the incident and he's still suffering from concussion and has got no memory of the game.

"We can only hope that it settles down in time for Monday's match with Manchester City. There was never any question he'd be fit for tomorrow.

"He is resting. He was at the club this morning, I was talking to him, but he's not able to do much at the moment because he's suffering from headaches. Even something as simple as reading a newspaper or watching TV can give him a headache so he needs to take it easy. I know how he feels doing all these press conferences!"

Mascherano's absence could open the door for new boy Christian Poulsen to make his Liverpool bow.

Hodgson added: "He's in the squad. I haven't picked the team yet but he's in the squad and there's a chance he'll appear tomorrow.

"We'll only find out when he plays if he's fit. He's only played 20-25 minutes in a friendly match for Juventus. He's done a lot of physical training so in that respect he's right up there with the rest of the players but he hasn't played a lot of football and so is not match fit.

"But he's a quality player. He's been at Schalke, Seville, Juventus and now Liverpool. The players here are like the ones he's played with in the past and his quality is Liverpool quality."

So the new squad list for the Trabzonspor game seems to be up on the UEFA website.

Very interesting omission is that Poulsen isn't on it

Insua isn't listed either

Nemeth, El Zhar, Plessis and Itandje still look to be in the persona non grata category along with Insua

No other major surprises although Aurelio is listed as a midfielder as is Jovanovic (who I'm pretty certain was named as a forward last time)

Poulsen one is a fairly big surprise though

Added
Pepe
Aurelio (listed as midfielder)
Babel
Masch
Torres
Kuyt

Dropped
Degen
Palsson

Diego Cavalieri
Pepe Reina
Martin Hansen
Péter Gulácsi

Glen Johnson
Daniel Agger
Sotiris Kyrgiakos
Danny Wilson
Jamie Carragher
Stephen Darby
Martin Kelly
Steven Irwin
Martin Škrtel
Daniel Ayala
Jack Robinson

Alberto Aquilani
Fábio Aurélio
Steven Gerrard
Joe Cole
Milan Jovanović
Maxi Rodríguez
Ryan Babel
Javier Mascherano
Lucas
Jay Spearing
Jonjo Shelvey
Nathan Eccleston
Thomas Ince
David Amoo

Fernando Torres
Daniel Pacheco
Dirk Kuyt
David Ngog
Lauri Dalla Valle

Last updated: 16/08/2010 15:00 CET

http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/clubs/club=7889/index.html

Kess73

Poulsen can't play as he is not named in the squad for this round of the EL.

MementoMori

Kess73 wrote: »

Poulsen can't play as he is not named in the squad for this round of the EL.

Well Roy says he's in the squad, so I'd hope he knows what's going on......you did read my post didn't you???

I think there's some rule about replacing players who are injured up to 24 hours before a game so I'd imagine with Masch and Agger out he could replace one of them - might see Inusa listed as well (probably a lot less likely though)

MementoMori

Supposed ITK lineup for the match

Reina
Kelly
Carra
Kyrgiakos
Aurelio
Poulsen
Lucas
Maxi
Cole
Babel
Jovanovic

Yakult

Didnt think Agger would still be f**ked.

Would like to see Aurelio start and not get injured along with Lucas taking Masch's place.

Expecting a comfortable game at home winning 2-0

The Floyd p

Shouldn't be any problems for Liverpool.

Sappy404

Anybody know why Pacheco isn't in the squad?

Edit: As in why he isn't in the starting eleven or on the bench. I can see he's in the officially named squad. I wonder if he's to be replacing Joe Cole on Sunday...

mike65

If the leaked line up is correct I reckon Jovanovic will play up front.

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Reina
Kelly-Carra-Kyrgiakos-Aurelio
----Poulsen--Lucas
Maxi

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Cole

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Babel

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Jovanovic

Bench? Well there are pix of Gerrard and Torres at Melwood training yesterday evening
so its fair to assume they will be watching on pitchside

Dublin_Gunner

mike65 wrote: »

If the leaked line up is correct I reckon Jovanovic will play up front.

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Reina
Kelly-Carra-Kyrgiakos-Aurelio
----Poulsen--Lucas
Maxi

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Cole

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Babel

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Jovanovic

Bench? Well there are pix of Gerrard and Torres at Melwood training yesterday evening
so its fair to assume they will be watching on pitchside

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Reina
Kelly-Carra-Kyrgiakos-Aurelio
----Poulsen--Lucas
Maxi

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Cole

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Babel--Jova

or

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Reina
Kelly-Carra-Kyrgiakos-Aurelio
----Poulsen--Lucas
Maxi

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Cole

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Jovanovic

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Babel

or

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Reina
Kelly-Carra-Kyrgiakos-Aurelio

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Poulsen

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Maxi

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Lucas

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Cole

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Babel--Jovanovic

So many options!

Yakult

Is this been shown rte 2 or anything?

Dublin_Gunner

R_H_C_P wrote: »

Is this been shown rte 2 or anything?

Setanta I assume.

MR NINE

If its not on 3e then I'm not interested

stumpypeeps

Supposed LFC team for tonight: Reina, Kelly, Carragher, Kyrgiakos Aurelio, Maxi, Poulsen, Lucas, Jovanovic, Cole, Babel.

AidySevenfold

It's on the Liverpool channel

flugel

I for one am looking forward to hopefully seeing babel down through the middle tonight, he's got to come good eventually! :-O

mike65

Its on ITV1 - I think its the qualifiers they have the rights to in the EL (if they want them). Then its Channel 5 all the way! :pac:

Yakult

AidySevenfold wrote: »

It's on the Liverpool channel

great Sick of watching crappy streams already.

I see a few posters have the team w/o Dave?

Is he injured or rested?

I thought he'd be a dead cert on the team tonight tbh.

MonkeyTennis

Dear Ryan

Please take your chance

Thanks

Everybody

MonkeyTennis

http://sports.eircom.net/setanta/

On eircom setanta thingy too

cruiserweight

stumpypeeps wrote: »

Supposed LFC team for tonight: Reina, Kelly, Carragher, Kyrgiakos Aurelio, Maxi, Poulsen, Lucas, Jovanovic, Cole, Babel.

Team is confirmed as above

MR NINE

I guess N'gog will be starting on Monday then. Any word on the bench yet?

MonkeyTennis

Subs: Cavalieri, Torres, Wilson, Ngog, Spearing, Skrtel, Pacheco.


No Alberto

MementoMori

The team in full is: Reina, Kelly, Aurelio, Kyrgiakos, Carragher, Lucas, Poulsen, Cole, Maxi, Jovanovic, Babel.

Subs: Cavalieri, Torres, Wilson, Ngog, Spearing, Skrtel, Pacheco.

Hmm - no Gerrard, Kuyt, Johnson, Aquilani or Masch or Agger

MonkeyTennis

Agger cant remember his name. No surprises there.

ilovelamp2000

The Aquilani transfer is turning out rather horribly.

I hope he isn't involved because we're lining up a sale before the end of the window rather than it being another injury.

mike65

ZOMG! Well not really.

I'm Babel's biggest critic but I'd f**king love to see him bang a goal or two in tonight and show that he really wants to play for us.

ilovelamp2000

mike65 wrote: »

ZOMG! Well not really.

I just read on the Superthread that Tomkins says he has a stomach bug.

He'd have been sacked by now if he worked with me.

5starpool

Rosco1982 wrote: »

I just read on the Superthread that Tomkins says he has a stomach bug.

He'd have been sacked by now if he worked with me.

I'm pretty sure his ZOMG was about the lineup, not the Aquilani thing.

ilovelamp2000

I don't care.

I'm actually a little bit angry about this Aquilani thing. Is his wife the worst cook in the world ? He always has stomach problems

Maybe he's having an allergic reaction to something .............. probably football.

mike65

It is frustrating. I'd say we'll know pretty quickly if he has a future in England.

AidySevenfold

I'm looking forward to seeing Babel up front, and Poulsen as well.
Hopefully see Pacheco off the bench as well. come on Liverpool

SlickRic

i'm really looking forward to this for some reason.

i hope Babel proves himself a bit up front.

it'd be awesome to be able to bring Torres on for 20 minutes at the end to give him some extra fitness.

monkey9

I love the way Roy always looks around the crowd during the rendition of YNWA, soaking it all in!!

MementoMori

Kyrgiakos MOTM

ilovelamp2000

MementoMori wrote: »

Kyrgiakos MOTM

If that header had gone in, I'd agree

ShamoBuc

Pity there, I would have loved the Greek to score

5starpool

Who is the co-commentator on Setanta? I missed his name, but hear him being called David, and he spent 7 months at Liverpool apparantly. The best guess I could come up with is David Speedie, but I never remember hearing doing this before.

MonkeyTennis

are they booing Maxi?

SlickRic

5starpool wrote: »

Who is the co-commentator on Setanta? I missed his name, but hear him being called David, and he spent 7 months at Liverpool apparantly. The best guess I could come up with is David Speedie, but I never remember hearing doing this before.

it is David Speedie.

he's already mentioned 'the good aul' days'.

MonkeyTennis wrote: »

are they booing Maxi?

no, i think the away supporters are booing Soky.

ilovelamp2000

5starpool wrote: »

Who is the co-commentator on Setanta? I missed his name, but hear him being called David, and he spent 7 months at Liverpool apparantly. The best guess I could come up with is David Speedie, but I never remember hearing doing this before.

You're probably correct.

I normally hate the Setanta commentators, but I switched over from ITV when I heard Tyldesly say Reina needs to redeem himself tonight.

**** off Clive

MementoMori

SlickRic wrote: »

it is David Speedie.

he's already mentioned 'the good aul' days'.



no, i think the away supporters are booing Soky.

The Greeks are booing Soky are they

ShamoBuc

Babel has looked lively enough - putting in alot of work

monkey9

Poulsen is giving possession away a lot in the opening twenty minutes.

SlickRic

MementoMori wrote: »

The Greeks are booing Soky are they

apparently.

unless it's our supporters saying his name or something.

i was confused.

ilovelamp2000

monkey9 wrote: »

Poulsen is giving possession away a lot in the opening twenty minutes.

He has made some good passes too

MementoMori

SlickRic wrote: »

apparently.

unless it's our supporters saying his name or something.

i was confused.

CiaranC

Watching this on the TV, theres such a brilliant atmosphere

SlickRic

MementoMori wrote: »

to be fair, the away support are Turkish, so that'd mean it'd make a bit of sense.

Gerty

hope babell keeps this up for the game