Next boards TT - Vote on type and date (Hint: The answer is a flat 10m TT)

zzzzzzzz

Vote on the date here:
http://www.doodle.com/939b8fmdp9qm6taf

goldencleric

Downhill with no pedalling

I vote for a flat TT on drop bar bikes

ROK ON

25 mile

Bohernabreena - Brittas
Sally Gap to CofI Church at Manor Kilbride

zzzzzzzz

10 mile

ROK ON wrote: »

Bohernabreena - Brittas
Sally Gap to CofI Church at Manor Kilbride

Was talking to someone the other day and they mentioned an interesting prospect of a downhill TT with chains taken off the chainrings.

cdaly_

25 mile

goldencleric wrote: »

I vote for a flat TT on drop bar bikes

I agree. It's time for a 'Big-boned' / 'It's all muscle' TT next time around.

That way I might have a chance of not placing last...

neris

25 mile

lugala up to sally gap. Proper little hill climb.

zzzzzzzz

10 mile

neris wrote: »

lugala up to sally gap. Proper little hill climb.

will put it on the list but it's a bit far to go for a midweek evening tt

Leroy42

10 mile

Luggala up to Sally Gap.....then turn right and head up to Kippure mast.

Even get the bonus of some cyclo-cross as you hope over/around the barrier!!!!

Think we may need calenders rather than stopwatches:D

Beasty

25 mile

We have been talking, on and off, about a 10m flat TT for some time now. I think so far there have been at least 3 hill-climbs plus a 25mTT.

If we do go for a 10m, there are 3 main options for courses - the nearest to town is the old N2 out to Ashbourne and back, which is used by Dublin Wheelers and is expected to be the Swords course next year.

There is also one at Batterstown, and another at Moy Valley, Enfield that the vets use.

So my vote is that we should first have a poll on what the next type of challenge is - Hill TT, 10mTT or 25mTT if people really want to suffer!

In addition, I recall ROK ON was working on a team TT idea for around October time

zzzzzzzz

10 mile

Beasty wrote: »

We have been talking, on and off, about a 10m flat TT for some time now. I think so far there have been at least 3 hill-climbs plus a 25mTT.

If we do go for a 10m, there are 3 main options for courses - the nearest to town is the old N2 out to Ashbourne and back, which is used by Dublin Wheelers and is expected to be the Swords course next year.

There is also one at Batterstown, and another at Moy Valley, Enfield that the vets use.

So my vote is that we should first have a poll on what the next type of challenge is - Hill TT, 10mTT or 25mTT if people really want to suffer!

In addition, I recall ROK ON was working on a team TT idea for around October time

Cool - I'll do that then

Beasty

25 mile

aidan.offbeat wrote: »

will put it on the list but it's a bit far to go for a midweek evening tt

I suspect it's going to be too late in the year for an evening TT - the club Leagues are finishing now because of the lack of light. It probably needs to be done at a weekend, unless we wait until the October Bank Holiday.

Planet X

25 mile

Fancy Dress TT?

zzzzzzzz

10 mile

Beasty wrote: »

I suspect it's going to be too late in the year for an evening TT - the club Leagues are finishing now because of the lack of light. It probably needs to be done at a weekend, unless we wait until the October Bank Holiday.

A hill climb would be grand for another few weeks I think.

buzzingnoise

25 mile

goldencleric wrote: »

I vote for a flat TT on drop bar bikes

bring a drop bar bike if you want but my tt rig needs a beating!

English Bob

Sunday morning?
Missed the hill climb so would love to join in the next event.
Downhill without chain is what Sean Kelly always talks about oneurosport. Maybe we could ask him to go first?!

markcroninbsc

10 mile

I think ye should do a weekend one then ye can do a proper one while theres still a chance of nice weather

ye could do this 10k one and it'll keep everyone happy. its 10k almost flat on top of a mountain so you could call it a flat hill tt
http://www.mapmyride.com/route/ie/baile%20baod%e1in/995128228871850928

or a nice course for a hil tt is this 10 miles one

http://www.mapmyride.com/route/ie/ballyboden/383128228914696763

not too steep and a couple of nice flatish sections to get a bit of a breather

snollup

25 mile

10 mile flat could be good but could we have some sort of handycaping in place?

neris

25 mile

stupid question but how does a team tt work?

another route for a flat course - blakes cross to the wavin factory in balbriggan. but i think theres lights at balrothery

markcroninbsc

10 mile

neris wrote: »

stupid question but how does a team tt work?

it only works for people with friends

Beasty

25 mile

snollup wrote: »

10 mile flat could be good but could we have some sort of handycaping in place?

Yep - yours can be that you have to carry the latest jersey order and deliver it to all participants at the end!

I like the idea of no aero gear, as that will level the playing field a bit. However without doing the TT first to establish relative abilities it would be difficult to come up with anything, unless we do it on an age basis ......;)

markcroninbsc

10 mile

neris wrote: »

stupid question but how does a team tt work?

another route for a flat course - blakes cross to the wavin factory in balbriggan. but i think theres lights at balrothery

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_time_trial

Beasty

25 mile

neris wrote: »

stupid question but how does a team tt work?[/url]

Thread here about it

neris wrote: »

another route for a flat course - blakes cross to the wavin factory in balbriggan. but i think theres lights at balrothery

It's also quite busy at the roundabout just off the M1

There's an alternative involving going over the flyover at the 5 roads and back down to Blakes Cross on the old N1 - this was one of the options for the Swords 10m TT this year

However there are a lot of roadworks taking place on that stretch of road, and who knows whether it will be clear of them on any particular day

markcroninbsc

10 mile

use the routes i suggested :P savagely quiet roads both have start and end points with nice areas to pull in off the road

Beasty

25 mile

markcroninbsc wrote: »

use the routes i suggested :P savagely quiet roads both have start and end points with nice areas to pull in off the road

Based on the votes so far, it's either a hill climb, or a flat 10mTT

Hilly 10mTT is not one of the options!

AstraMonti

10 mile

Beasty wrote: »

Hilly 10mTT is not one of the options!

Unless Boards.ie pay for us for a trip in France! Italy/Spain would do too.

I voted for a Hill TT.

Lumen

25 mile

Batterstown is a good 16km course. It has a few bends to make it interesting and introduce a small element of skill, although we could do with a couple of marshalls.

Out and backs are a bit dull.

markcroninbsc

10 mile

Beasty wrote: »

Hilly 10mTT is not one of the options!

didnt know there was a limit on the length of the hill :P

markcroninbsc

10 mile

im bringin this http://www.sigmasport.co.uk/app/EditorImages/Bursford%20bike.JPG if we get a few more votes for a down hill

Beasty

25 mile

Lumen wrote: »

Batterstown is a good 16km course. It has a few bends to make it interesting and introduce a small element of skill, although we could do with a couple of marshalls.

Out and backs are a bit dull.

The complete circuit is 20km, which might be better, as it means you don't have to have different people at the start and finish. I did it once, and it is a bit technical - I don't think it's a particularly fast course. I think you would need 2 or 3 marshalls at least just to stop riders going off course, as there are a few junctions where people could get confused if unfamiliar with the course

There is an out and back option at Batterstown which is fast though, and would only have the roundabout to cover with a marshall or two.

Lumen

25 mile

Beasty wrote: »

there are a few junctions where people could get confused if unfamiliar with the course

Exactly! It's a great course.

manwithaplan

10 mile

My limited experience suggests I am relatively better going up a hill than on the flat. I think that's because when you have no ability, your only weapon is a large capacity for suffering.

I am happy to do whatever is decided but I like the look of Beasty's age-based handicapping proposal.

Beasty

25 mile

AstraMonti wrote: »

Unless Boards.ie pay for us for a trip in France! Italy/Spain would do too.

I've checked, but unfortunately all Boards.ie resources are now tied up in some hair-brained scheme to send a bunch of cyclists on a jolly around Ireland - there's nothing left in the kitty for a trip to the Alps or Pyrennes:(

Nietzschean

25 mile

Lumen wrote: »

Batterstown is a good 16km course. It has a few bends to make it interesting and introduce a small element of skill, although we could do with a couple of marshalls.

Out and backs are a bit dull.

been there, and done that course. I know you love it and do it all the time...but maybe something a bit faster and actually pancake flat? get the most out of your aero rig!

neris

25 mile

How about finding out when the next ucd tt is and we,ll all show up

goldencleric

Downhill with no pedalling

Beasty wrote: »

We have been talking, on and off, about a 10m flat TT for some time now. I think so far there have been at least 3 hill-climbs plus a 25mTT.

If we do go for a 10m, there are 3 main options for courses - the nearest to town is the old N2 out to Ashbourne and back, which is used by Dublin Wheelers and is expected to be the Swords course next year.

There is also one at Batterstown, and another at Moy Valley, Enfield that the vets use.

So my vote is that we should first have a poll on what the next type of challenge is - Hill TT, 10mTT or 25mTT if people really want to suffer!

In addition, I recall ROK ON was working on a team TT idea for around October time

all of the above in a boards bonanza TT league?

+1 Fancy dress TT (No Lances allowed)

NeedMoreGears

25 mile

Re: Beasty's age based handicap

It'd want to be a fine big handicap even for someone as old as me.

We did this a few years ago for some sprint triathalons with some of the guys I work with - the younger better guys still won but at least we elder lemons had them worried while they waited for us to finish.

Just to get my sandbag in early, I'd be well pleased with anything under 30 mins for a ten miler

CramCycle

Downhill with no pedalling

markcroninbsc wrote: »

im bringin this http://www.sigmasport.co.uk/app/EditorImages/Bursford%20bike.JPG if we get a few more votes for a down hill

I can't believe someone bought the same bike as me.

manwithaplan wrote: »

My limited experience suggests I am relatively better going up a hill than on the flat. I think that's because when you have no ability, your only weapon is a large capacity for suffering.

I am happy to do whatever is decided but I like the look of Beasty's age-based handicapping proposal.

So the more experience you have (ie the older you are) the more of a handicap you have?

I am all for it

Beasty

25 mile

CramCycle wrote: »

So the more experience you have (ie the older you are) the more of a handicap you have?

Yes, age is a handicap - hence we need a "counter-handicap" to compensate

I note Mr Skeffington has now voted, and on that basis I reckon something like 5 mins if you are 40 and over this year, and 10 mins if you are 50 and over by 31 December to give the older riders a chance of a respectable finish

Just to avoid any suggestion this is in any way biased, I would ask another random boardsie what he thinks.

So, Planet X, would you agree this is fair?

CramCycle

Downhill with no pedalling

Beasty wrote: »

Yes, age is a handicap - hence we need a "counter-handicap" to compensate

I thought if you were older that meant you were better with your wealth of experience and should therefore get less time.

Sorry for the confusion.

Beasty

25 mile

CramCycle wrote: »

I thought if you were older that meant you were better with your wealth of experience and should therefore get less time.

Sorry for the confusion.

OK, so anyone who is both older and hasn't been cycling seriously for more than a couple of years or so, and hence has very limited cycling experience, should be given 15 minutes benefit. I can live with that:D

Hermy

10 mile

I'll gladly take a fifteen minute benefit, thanks Beasty!

AstraMonti

10 mile

I did my first ever pathetic attempt for a 16kms all-out ride without any aero gear (not that I have any at the moment..) . I went to N11 after bray and did the 10miles in exactly 31mins and 27seconds. My avg speed was 30.9kms/h and my avg HR 179bpm, which means I could better, because when I finished I had enough energy to do another 40kms up the hills to return home. Seeing that people are doing 40kms TT in an hour I would say this is preeeeeetty bad. It was kinda painful fun.

ROK ON

25 mile

FWIW. There is a sttetch of dual carriageway close to dublin about 16km in length.
It has an unused bus lane and great surface. Easier to marshall and no junctions or turns onto it.
Slight ramp up to finish aswell.

cdaly_

25 mile

So, what's the story? Are we doing this?...

Beasty

25 mile

Well 10mTT seems to be the popular choice, with next Tuesday (the 31st) the favoured date. I'm certainly up for it.

I would suggest the Battertown course - out and back, because we could probably get away with just a timer, provided everyone took care around the roundabout (although a marshall there would clearly be preferable)

Planet X

25 mile

Beasty wrote: »

Yes, age is a handicap - hence we need a "counter-handicap" to compensate

I note Mr Skeffington has now voted, and on that basis I reckon something like 5 mins if you are 40 and over this year, and 10 mins if you are 50 and over by 31 December to give the older riders a chance of a respectable finish

Just to avoid any suggestion this is in any way biased, I would ask another random boardsie what he thinks.

So, Planet X, would you agree this is fair?

Yup!

buzzingnoise

25 mile

Beasty wrote: »

Well 10mTT seems to be the popular choice, with next Tuesday (the 31st) the favoured date. I'm certainly up for it.

I would suggest the Battertown course - out and back, because we could probably get away with just a timer, provided everyone took care around the roundabout (although a marshall there would clearly be preferable)

How about a seeded system based on Age and Weight??
Age in years + Weight in pounds.
Highest total gets biggest advantage/smallest handicap....

Beasty

25 mile

buzzingnoise wrote: »

How about a seeded system based on Age and Weight??
Age in years + Weight in pounds.
Highest total gets biggest advantage/smallest handicap....

I suppose I could live with that one:D

Beasty

25 mile

So, is there any more interest in doing this tomorrow night? If not, we could postpone it until next week, but after that I suspect the nights will be closing in, and we may need to do it at a weekend, or leave it until next year.

AstraMonti

10 mile

I vote for next week!

Diarmuid

10 mile

Might be able to make tomorrow but definitely won't be around the following 2 Tuesdays. Days getting really short now.