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  • 24-08-2010 8:54pm
    #1
    [Deleted User]
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    Hi every,


    I am currently on Job seekers allowance and have decided to go back to pursue a degree course. I haven't received any payment as of yet from my claim dated June this year.

    Now i ve been told by the SW facilitator that I will have to wait till my claim is processed before i can apply for back to education.

    what would you consider to be the best route in relation to this? will i just wait and be patient? or will i get a college reg letter then approach them?

    all suggestions welcome thank you


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    Long Term Louth
    Registered Users Posts: 829 ✭✭✭Long Term Louth


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Hi every,


    I am currently on Job seekers allowance and have decided to go back to pursue a degree course. I haven't received any payment as of yet from my claim dated June this year.

    Now i ve been told by the SW facilitator that I will have to wait till my claim is processed before i can apply for back to education.

    what would you consider to be the best route in relation to this? will i just wait and be patient? or will i get a college reg letter then approach them?

    all suggestions welcome thank you

    Have you been accepted by a college? If you have you need to be on Jobseekers for a minimum of 9 months ot get BTEA.


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    Blueprint
    Closed Accounts Posts: 476 ✭✭Blueprint


    This isn't true, if you've been made redundant, you can get BTEA without waiting, as long as you are in receipt of a jobseekers payment.

    From the site:
    Persons awarded Statutory Redundancy under Irish legislation may have immediate access to the BTEA scheme, (or within one year ) of the award of the Statutory Redundancy, provided an entitlement to a relevant Social Welfare payment is established prior to commencing an approved course of study.

    http://www.welfare.ie/EN/OperationalGuidelines/Pages/bte_all.aspx#3.3


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    [Deleted User]
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    thanks guys, haven't been accepted yet, was on Vtos for a year and wondering which is the best approach to take, will i wait until i get my acceptance letter from the college? then apply for back to education


    thanks for your input

    Buddy smiley ;)


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    #5
    Annasopra
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    dunno how BTEA works but if you are applying for BTEA make sure to apply for the maintenance grant too - they pay registration fees

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    [Deleted User]
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    Cheers Johnnymcg, thanks for info, cant apply for free fee's because cant get tax forms from my father, do you know is there any other way to apply for free fees

    cheers


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    Stop me now
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    re: jonnymcg posting, since the budget 2010 you are no longer able to apply for the maintenance grant if you have applied for the BETA allowance, Im afraid its one or the other.


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    Long Term Louth
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    Stop me now wrote: »
    re: jonnymcg posting, since the budget 2010 you are no longer able to apply for the maintenance grant if you have applied for the BETA allowance, Im afraid its one or the other.


    True: But you must apply for the maintenance grant to be approved for the college fees, so jonnymcg is in fact correct, you should still apply for both.


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    Stop me now
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    Long Term, dont mean to be picking but you wont be paid the 'maintenance' part of the Higher Education Grant, you are correct that they will pay your students fees of e1500. If you apply for the BTEA you will have to survive on your welfare payments plus e500 a year.

    I havent applied for the BTEA, and in doing so Im keeping my welfare payments and have been awarded the full maintenance grant of e6355.


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    Long Term Louth
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    Stop me now wrote: »
    Long Term, dont mean to be picking but you wont be paid the 'maintenance' part of the Higher Education Grant, you are correct that they will pay your students fees of e1500. If you apply for the BTEA you will have to survive on your welfare payments plus e500 a year.

    I havent applied for the BTEA, and in doing so Im keeping my welfare payments and have been awarded the full maintenance grant of e6355.


    No problem only debating the issue! I dont think you can keep your welfare payments and get the grant. The earlier point however you still have to complete the grant form and supply the required info to receive the Reg fees is valid, although you wont receive the maintenance part.


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    Stop me now
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    I am keeping my welfare payment and also been awarded the full maintenance grant. I have checked it out with the dept. and everything is sorted out. Probably might depend on the type of welfare payment you are in receipt of if you can do it this way. Check it out.


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    Long Term Louth
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    Stop me now wrote: »
    I am keeping my welfare payment and also been awarded the full maintenance grant. I have checked it out with the dept. and everything is sorted out. Probably might depend on the type of welfare payment you are in receipt of if you can do it this way. Check it out.

    Illness benefit, occupational injuries benefit are the only 2 I know of?


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    Long Term Louth
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    Just a word of warning for anyone in receipt of either of the above and the grant! if you are called for a medical examination and "cut off" during your course you will not receive any other social welfare payment and will have to survive on the grant or give up your course.


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    Annasopra
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Cheers Johnnymcg, thanks for info, cant apply for free fee's because cant get tax forms from my father, do you know is there any other way to apply for free fees

    cheers
    are you not an independent mature student? In some cases a local partnership organisation e.g. Bray Partnership or Fingal Leader Partnership may give you a small grant towards fees

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    ROCE1977
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    all I know is this. You can either get the BTEA or maintence grant. BTEA is the same as jobseekers. You can still apply for maintence grant for reg fees. You can't keep both since 2010. Unless you received both prior to 2010.


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    zaynab
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    Does anyone know at what point you get job seekers cut off? I have just today submitted my grant application for MA in Art and Design LIT and it looks like I'm going to get full maintenance and fees paid. Is Jobseekers cut off when you are approved for a grant/ when the course commences/ or when you first receive a grant payment?

    Zaynab


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    Annasopra
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    zaynab wrote: »
    Does anyone know at what point you get job seekers cut off? I have just today submitted my grant application for MA in Art and Design LIT and it looks like I'm going to get full maintenance and fees paid. Is Jobseekers cut off when you are approved for a grant/ when the course commences/ or when you first receive a grant payment?

    Zaynab

    when the course commences

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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