Racism in football today

Le King · 25-08-2010 1:33am #1

Today I saw this image of Lokomotiv Moscow "fans" saying goodbye to Odemwingie.

It's hard to believe these clowns still exist today.

In Serie A it was Ruud Gullit and Aron Winter in the early 90's. In the late 90's when Paul Ince played for Inter he was subjected to racist taunts from opposing fans. Then Zoro nearly left the pitch after the Inter fans racially abused him. Then, most recently, Mario Balotelli was also racially abused by Juve fans last year.

We all know about Spain - Eto'o, Aragones with Henry, SWP, Ashley Cole, Ronaldinho, Kameni etc.

In England you had John Barnes, Diouf, Euell etc. all suffered some sort of racial abuse during their careers.

We all know of the massive race problem in Russia, but how are clowns allowed to put banners, like the above, in stadiums in this day and age.

I find what is happening as disgusting. Does anybody else think it's a terrible problem in our sport? Those Lokomotiv fans should be banned for putting up crap like that.

Paul Tergat · 25-08-2010 1:36am

Some people are dickheads

SDTimeout · 25-08-2010 1:36am

Can i just nip in and say i think the argones thing is a poor example.

Caught out, everyone has had a racist moment in private same with Ron Atkinson.

Le King · 25-08-2010 1:41am

SDTimeout wrote: »

Can i just nip in and say i think the argones thing is a poor example.

Caught out, everyone has had a racist moment in private same with Ron Atkinson.

And that is ok?

Wolfe Tone · 25-08-2010 1:43am

Dont forget sectarianism. Rangers have some lovely chants.

Gavin "shels" · 25-08-2010 1:44am

MUSSOLINI wrote: »

Dont forget sectarianism. Rangers have some lovely chants.

SDTimeout · 25-08-2010 1:45am

Le King wrote: »

And that is ok?

I don't recall saying it was.

I also think this thread has the potential to turn into a big witch hunt of " out the racist " because this will just turn into page after page of

" yes that's horrible "

* edit - and how could i forget celtic and rangers... which seems to have started

Mr.Nice Guy · 25-08-2010 1:45am

It's amazing that banner was allowed, particularly when Russia are planning on pumping billions into a bid for the 2018 World Cup. Makes me want to see England get it.

major bill · 25-08-2010 1:48am

think the problem in football is its one rule for one a differant rule for others. look at the english game for example if say liverpool fans done that then im surethe english fa would punish them severly but there doesnt seem to be the same mindset when it comes to eastern european teams where racism is very common.Those countries FA's should be drilling it into peoples heads that racism is not acceptable and should be punishing them over it.
a few years ago curtis fleming was subjected to racist abuse in romania while playing for shelbourne and think they were fined something like 50,000(could be wrong) which is fcukall in football.

digme · 25-08-2010 1:48am

What's wrong with the banner?

major bill · 25-08-2010 1:49am

MUSSOLINI wrote: »

Dont forget sectarianism. Rangers have some lovely chants.

the irish game is dogged by it also:(

Le King · 25-08-2010 1:50am

SDTimeout wrote: »

I don't recall saying it was.

I also think this thread has the potential to turn into a big witch hunt of " out the racist " because this will just turn into page after page of

" yes that's horrible "

* edit - and how could i forget celtic and rangers... which seems to have started

I never said you said it was ok. I was asking you if you thought it was ok.

And people can say what they like. I'm sure people can add a bit more than "yes that's horrible".

Btw "racist moment". That's a load of crap.

Superbus · 25-08-2010 1:50am

digme wrote: »

What's wrong with the banner?

You really have to ask?

The feckin' banana.

Wolfe Tone · 25-08-2010 1:51am

Gavin shels wrote: »

Maybe its because I am knackered, but what did you mean by that? I am sure it is blatantly obvious.

frantic190 · 25-08-2010 1:53am

major bill wrote: »

the irish game is dogged by it also:(

And don't forget the abuse Joey Ndo gets when he plays some (:rolleyes:) teams

digme · 25-08-2010 1:53am

Superbus wrote: »

You really have to ask?

The feckin' banana.

a banana is offensive now?

major bill · 25-08-2010 1:55am

frantic190 wrote: »

And don't forget the abuse Joey Ndo gets when he plays some (:rolleyes:) teams

rovers in tallaght last season oh but that was just some kids booing ndo;)

and before rovers fans start crying il be the first one to say yes there was sectarian chants directed at alan mannus also but unlike rovers fans bohs fans openly condemned that on the forums.

major bill · 25-08-2010 1:56am

digme wrote: »

a banana is offensive now?

well its hardly because he loves bananas that they made the poster!!

niallo27 · 25-08-2010 1:57am

digme wrote: »

a banana is offensive now?

The players brother was knocked down by a fyffe's van years ago

Oat23 · 25-08-2010 1:57am

Racism is everywhere in football. Albeit not as bad as it once was, it's still there in many countries which is such a shame.

digme wrote: »

a banana is offensive now?

You know what it means ffs, they knew what they were doing when they put up that banner.

frantic190 wrote: »

And don't forget the abuse Joey Ndo gets when he plays some (:rolleyes:) teams

It's disgraceful the abuse he gets tbh. Never happened according to the fans that are accused of it though :rolleyes:.

DOC09UNAM · 25-08-2010 1:59am

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

It's amazing that banner was allowed, particularly when Russia are planning on pumping billions into a bid for the 2018 World Cup. Makes me want to see England get it.

Lol because england don't have racists in there crowd?

digme · 25-08-2010 1:59am

Is it that a banana is not from Russia?

DOC09UNAM · 25-08-2010 2:01am

digme wrote: »

Is it that a banana is not from Russia?

Now stop trying to get a rise from people tbh.

digme · 25-08-2010 2:03am

Nigerian national team

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insert white peoples vegetable..................

pwd · 25-08-2010 2:08am

yes bananas are offensive in certain contexts

GLaDOS · 25-08-2010 2:09am

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

Lol because england don't have racists in there crowd?

At least the English FA doesn't tolerate it

Mr.Nice Guy · 25-08-2010 2:13am

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

Lol because england don't have racists in there crowd?

Eh no, what I meant was if you are planning on trying to host the World Cup, as Russia are, then it's pretty strange to allow a banner making monkey references to a black player, wouldn't you say?

DOC09UNAM · 25-08-2010 2:15am

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Eh no, what I meant was if you are planning on trying to host the World Cup, as Russia are, then it's pretty strange to allow a banner making monkey references to a black player, wouldn't you say?

I suppose, I'm sure if they wanted to bring it into the stadium in England, they'd be able, I don't particularly think they would have stopped them.

everdead.ie · 25-08-2010 2:21am

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

I suppose, I'm sure if they wanted to bring it into the stadium in England, they'd be able, I don't particularly think they would have stopped them.

You probably would get a banner in but once it was up you would get a lifetime ban for having it.

major bill · 25-08-2010 2:21am

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

I suppose, I'm sure if they wanted to bring it into the stadium in England, they'd be able, I don't particularly think they would have stopped them.

if that banner was spotted at a ground in england it would have been confiscated by stewards.

DOC09UNAM · 25-08-2010 2:23am

major bill wrote: »

if that banner was spotted at a ground in england it would have been confiscated by stewards.

I was in wembley a few weeks ago, and walked in and up to my seat without them checking my bag, easily could have had a banner in there, It's not the officials fault, it's the stupid fans that bring them who are the problem.

Xavi6 · 25-08-2010 2:30am

frantic190 wrote: »

And don't forget the abuse Joey Ndo gets when he plays some (:rolleyes:) teams

Sparky Rutherford used to get it bad as well, particularly at a certain non-Dublin ground.

KCAccidental · 25-08-2010 2:30am

digme wrote: »

Nigerian national team

insert white peoples vegetable..................

thats the cameroon national team.

the fact you called them the nigerian team leads me one of two conclusions, either a) you're stupid or b) you are referencing the "hilarious" internet meme with implies that all black people look the same. making you a stupid racist... which is it?

GLaDOS · 25-08-2010 2:33am

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

I was in wembley a few weeks ago, and walked in and up to my seat without them checking my bag, easily could have had a banner in there, It's not the officials fault, it's the stupid fans that bring them who are the problem.

Once you put it up it would be seen though

major bill · 25-08-2010 2:33am

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

I was in wembley a few weeks ago, and walked in and up to my seat without them checking my bag, easily could have had a banner in there, It's not the officials fault, it's the stupid fans that bring them who are the problem.

true but the banner would be confiscated off you when seeing in the ground!! thats the differance between russia and england.

bohsman · 25-08-2010 2:34am

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

I was in wembley a few weeks ago, and walked in and up to my seat without them checking my bag, easily could have had a banner in there, It's not the officials fault, it's the stupid fans that bring them who are the problem.

Not the officials problem if you have an offensive banner in your bag but if you attempt to hang it it/you should be removed.

DOC09UNAM · 25-08-2010 2:43am

ScienceNerd wrote: »

Once you put it up it would be seen though

major bill wrote: »

true but the banner would be confiscated off you when seeing in the ground!! thats the differance between russia and england.

bohsman wrote: »

Not the officials problem if you have an offensive banner in your bag but if you attempt to hang it it/you should be removed.

I understand this in England, but going off the picture posted, It doesn't look like Russia has all that many stewards near the area, I'm not saying it's right, and I'd certainly prefer the WC to go to England myself, but it's still all down to the racists that bring in the banners, not all the blame can be put on the Russian federation.

On a slight side note - does anyone know if racism is rife in Russia normally, because this is the first i've noticed it.

OPENROAD · 25-08-2010 2:45am

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

On a slight side note - does anyone know if racism is rife in Russia normally, because this is the first i've noticed it.

Where was that Ross Kemp thing done?

DOC09UNAM · 25-08-2010 2:46am

OPENROAD wrote: »

Where was that Ross Kemp thing done?

Dunno, never watched his programs, although i'm going to assume this is your way of telling me it's common in russia.

OPENROAD · 25-08-2010 2:48am

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

Dunno, never watched his programs, although i'm going to assume this is your way of telling me it's common in russia.

Just checked that was in Poland

major bill · 25-08-2010 2:49am

OPENROAD wrote: »

Where was that Ross Kemp thing done?

poland asfaik.

On a slight side note - does anyone know if racism is rife in Russia normally, because this is the first i've noticed it.

russian football suffers alot form neo-nazi/skinhead groups and hooliganism.i remember hearing of irish fans been targeted the last time we played them out there in 2002.

DOC09UNAM · 25-08-2010 2:55am

major bill wrote: »

poland asfaik.

russian football suffers alot form neo-nazi/skinhead groups and hooliganism.i remember hearing of irish fans been targeted the last time we played them out there in 2002.

Not that im saying it's right, but i doubt even a steward in OT, Anfield, Emirates, stamford bridge, would even walk up and take a banner off a "skinhead group", off an individual maybe, but certainly not a big group of skins.

Completely wrong though, fúckers should be banned if they're caught at that shít.

OPENROAD · 25-08-2010 3:00am

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

Not that im saying it's right, but i doubt even a steward in OT, Anfield, Emirates, stamford bridge, would even walk up and take a banner off a "skinhead group", off an individual maybe, but certainly not a big group of skins.

Completely wrong though, fúckers should be banned if they're caught at that shít.

They would call for back up from the old bill imo

Bodhisopha · 25-08-2010 3:10am

OPENROAD wrote: »

Just checked that was in Poland

He did one in Russia too with a neo nazi gang. Racism is rife in Russia and appears to be on the up.

Oat23 · 25-08-2010 3:14am

OPENROAD wrote: »

Where was that Ross Kemp thing done?

major bill wrote: »

poland asfaik.

Yes it was the Poland episode. I was watching it yesterday!

IvySlayer · 25-08-2010 3:51am

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

Not that im saying it's right, but i doubt even a steward in OT, Anfield, Emirates, stamford bridge, would even walk up and take a banner off a "skinhead group", off an individual maybe, but certainly not a big group of skins.

Completely wrong though, fúckers should be banned if they're caught at that shít.

Then the police would march over there. Wonder how brave they'll be then.

DOC09UNAM · 25-08-2010 4:00am

IvySlayer wrote: »

Then the police would march over there. Wonder how brave they'll be then.

Fair enough point, But how do we know at what minute that photo was taken??

Maybe it was just after being rolled out, maybe the police or russian equivalent had been called and were on route?

Easy to blame the stewards when it's the russian people that are wrong in that situation.

BigBenRoeth · 25-08-2010 4:04am

If you are to see a banana as being racist you should be shot.

OPENROAD · 25-08-2010 4:08am

BigBenRoeth wrote: »

If you are to see a banana as being racist you should be shot.

Depends who it is being directed at

GLaDOS · 25-08-2010 4:13am

BigBenRoeth wrote: »

If you are to see a banana as being racist you should be shot.

This guy disagrees

BigBenRoeth · 25-08-2010 4:21am

ScienceNerd wrote: »

This guy disagrees

I dont care.
A banana being racist is no different to an apple or an orange being racist,it is typical of the all too pc world we live in.

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