Gareth Bale

flahavaj

Barcas new left sided Alves.

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flahavaj wrote: »

Barcas new left sided Alves.

Too good for United? Tut tut, I'm expecting a bid from City anyways.

Liam O

THFC wrote: »

Too good for United? Tut tut, I'm expecting a bid from City anyways.

'Arry would love that, he'd get half the city squad in return probably.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

Liam O wrote: »

'Arry would love that, he'd get half the city squad in return probably.

That and something for himself no doubt..

SlickRic

dreamers75 wrote: »

Cos there are better players?

no.

it's because he hasn't ripped Inter a new one.

that was the only real reason he won it last year.

The_Hustler

Feels like it was only yesterday I was reading about this Bale chap who was apparently cursed and Spurs had never won while he was playing. Think it was broken the day I read that as he was brought on at the end of a 4-0 win:

http://avoidingthedrop.com/2009/09/29/gareth-bale-gets-his-first-win/

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/sport/stevewilson/8108247/The_curse_of_Tottenhams_Gareth_Bale/

rob316

2 yellows in 2 games for diving.....sure he's not Uruguayan. Talented sure but disgraceful diver.

uberwolf

hamstring gone. Shame for him.

Grid.

Just when I trade him into my fantasy team!!:rolleyes:

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

rob316 wrote: »

2 yellows in 2 games for diving.....sure he's not Uruguayan. Talented sure but disgraceful diver.

Complaining that Bale isn't hated as much as Suarez just for his diving is ridiculous. There's a million other reasons to hate Suarez.

mike65

Dive Dive Dive.....Dive!

MyBrokenKnees

Alan Hanson on MOTD thinks he isn't a diver! That he is just theatrical when he falls over from a tackle

ShamoBuc

MyBrokenKnees wrote: »

Alan Hanson on MOTD thinks he isn't a diver! That he is just theatrical when he falls over from a tackle

He's right. He showed two different tackles where there was contact - limited yes, but contact none the less - but then the theatricalness of the fall is ott. Arms flaying etc. no need for it, but that's Bale.

Neville agreed that there was contact but the exaggerated nature of the fall is why he got booked.

He should have been booked again for the sarcastic applause he gave the ref - he wouldn't be out injured if he was:p

BhoscaCapall

It's a shame people feel the need to make excuses for cheats

Mr.Nice Guy

ShamoBuc wrote: »

He's right. He showed two different tackles where there was contact - limited yes, but contact none the less - but then the theatricalness of the fall is ott. Arms flaying etc. no need for it, but that's Bale.

Neville agreed that there was contact but the exaggerated nature of the fall is why he got booked.

He should have been booked again for the sarcastic applause he gave the ref - he wouldn't be out injured if he was:p

But the one they should have showed was the one ironically they showed on MOTD 2 a couple of weeks ago against Aston Villa, where Lawrenson acknowledged he had dived (albeit in an 'isn't it so funny' kind of way):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbaUhiS4lgU

I think Bale is an exciting player but he clearly has a propensity for diving and if it wasn't for the fact he's British they'd be speaking in very solemn tones about it.

Mr.Nice Guy

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

But the one they should have showed was the one ironically they showed on MOTD 2 a couple of weeks ago against Aston Villa, where Lawrenson acknowledged he had dived (albeit in an 'isn't it so funny' kind of way):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbaUhiS4lgU

I think Bale is an exciting player but he clearly has a propensity for diving and if it wasn't for the fact he's British they'd be speaking in very solemn tones about it.

He's British,it's grand.

BhoscaCapall

rarnes1 wrote: »

He's British,it's grand.

In fairness it's not as if Continentals chastise their players for it either. In fact the main difference is that it's actually encouraged as 'part of the game' there. At least in the UK it is ridiculed, even if they do try and airbrush it when their own are guilty.

jive

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

But the one they should have showed was the one ironically they showed on MOTD 2 a couple of weeks ago against Aston Villa, where Lawrenson acknowledged he had dived (albeit in an 'isn't it so funny' kind of way):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbaUhiS4lgU

I think Bale is an exciting player but he clearly has a propensity for diving and if it wasn't for the fact he's British they'd be speaking in very solemn tones about it.

Thing about this is if he didn't go down he might have gotten an absolute belter into the leg. I don't know about you but if I was travelling as fast as Bale I'd go down easy too because I'd rather be branded a diver than have a broken leg. It's not like he started screaming for a free there, he just went down. 2 yellows in 2 games for diving where neither were dives. I can't remember was it AVB or Harry or whoever but they alluded to the point that if he doesn't limit the contact then he's going to get injured a lot more than he already is just by taking the hits.

Kold

Honestly, there's loads about Bale diving. Way more than Gerrard, RVP, Balotelli and Nani who are just as bad if not worse.
People just want to hate on Bale.

Red Crow

You must be a Spurs fan ^

hefferboi

Kold wrote: »

Honestly, there's loads about Bale diving. Way more than Gerrard, RVP, Balotelli and Nani who are just as bad if not worse.
People just want to hate on Bale.

Show me where?

I've rarely seen it mentioned in the press.

He worse for diving than Suarez.

Liam O

jive wrote: »

Thing about this is if he didn't go down he might have gotten an absolute belter into the leg. I don't know about you but if I was travelling as fast as Bale I'd go down easy too because I'd rather be branded a diver than have a broken leg. It's not like he started screaming for a free there, he just went down. 2 yellows in 2 games for diving where neither were dives. I can't remember was it AVB or Harry or whoever but they alluded to the point that if he doesn't limit the contact then he's going to get injured a lot more than he already is just by taking the hits.

There was nothing about this during the Ronaldo witch-hunts even though he got it much worse than Bale and rarely if ever dived without any contact like Bale does.

Seaneh

BhoscaCapall wrote: »

In fairness it's not as if Continentals chastise their players for it either. In fact the main difference is that it's actually encouraged as 'part of the game' there. At least in the UK it is ridiculed, even if they do try and airbrush it when their own are guilty.

Where is it encouraged?


What absolute nonsense.

Jelle1880

jive wrote: »

Thing about this is if he didn't go down he might have gotten an absolute belter into the leg. I don't know about you but if I was travelling as fast as Bale I'd go down easy too because I'd rather be branded a diver than have a broken leg. It's not like he started screaming for a free there, he just went down. 2 yellows in 2 games for diving where neither were dives. I can't remember was it AVB or Harry or whoever but they alluded to the point that if he doesn't limit the contact then he's going to get injured a lot more than he already is just by taking the hits.

He would have been long gone by the time that foot would have hit him, (and it wouldn't in the first place, as the goalie pulled it back).

YouTookMyName

Gareth Bale dives to avoid injury and Luis Suarez dives because he is a cheating foreigner... British journalism, best in the world.

Bales a wánker.

cgpg5

Very lucky to stay on the pitch for that sarcastic applause

Very talented player but impossible to warm to with the ridiculous play acting

Al Capwned

cgpg5 wrote: »

Very lucky to stay on the pitch for that sarcastic applause

Very talented player but impossible to warm to with the ridiculous play acting

Couldnt agree more - he's a supremely talented footballer, but also a supremely annoying little.........

KingdomYid

cgpg5 wrote: »

Very lucky to stay on the pitch for that sarcastic applause

Very talented player but impossible to warm to with the ridiculous play acting

Well he obviously clapped because it was the wrong decision and there was contact. He will be targeted now by referees, all his own fault may I add.

Santi101

Cheating monkey boy.

KingdomYid

Santi101 wrote: »

Cheating monkey boy.

Very mature, insulting him for his looks :rolleyes:

cgpg5

KingdomYid wrote: »

Well he obviously clapped because it was the wrong decision and there was contact. He will be targeted now by referees, all his own fault may I add.

Rooney got sent off for similar in champs league years ago. He's blessed the ref didn't send him to the line

Was there any contact? Looked like he just jumped over his leg and then threw his hands in the air. Looked incredibly embarrassing tbh

theoneeyedman

I always say this in this sort of thread......football is a contact sport and all contact is not a foul. Just cause you leave your leg hanging enough and throw our arms in the air does not mean you are being fouled. i applaud ref's for handing out yellows for these theatritics. More of it I say

stampydmonkey

alproctor wrote: »

Couldnt agree more - he's a supremely talented footballer, but also a supremely annoying little.........

he's just a better less likable version of Kevin kilbane. yes he has a blistering turn of pace but how any defender with a brain cannot see that he will just blast down the wing and hammer the ball across the box is beyond me. the man is the most overrated one trick pony in the league. turn him to the inside, and you have rendered him just another average player who happens to dive a lot

wandatowell

Santi101 wrote: »

Cheating monkey boy.

Grow up

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

YouTookMyName wrote: »

Gareth Bale dives to avoid injury and Luis Suarez dives because he is a cheating foreigner... British journalism, best in the world.

Bales a wánker.

Again, there's a million other reasons to hate Suarez, the diving is just another excuse to ridicule him. There's a word up there that's much more appropriate for Suarez, and ironically, you've used it to describe Bale. I don't see why Suarez should be brought into this thread, he comes across as a vile human being, as well being a proven racist with cannibalistic tendencies. Extremely unfair to Bale to compare the two.

LuckyLloyd

He's a cheat, plain and simple.

As are many footballers. Another dislikeable player, news at eleven.

I wouldn't mind, but players who play the game in an unmanly fashion like Gareth Bale shouldn't be celebrated. There was a time when a player like him would have had to toughen up or get booted out of the game, and football was better for it.

wandatowell

stampydmonkey wrote: »

the man is the most overrated one trick pony in the league. turn him to the inside, and you have rendered him just another average player who happens to dive a lot

In fairness he is a winger, one trick is all he needs

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stampydmonkey wrote: »

he's just a better less likable version of Kevin kilbane. yes he has a blistering turn of pace but how any defender with a brain cannot see that he will just blast down the wing and hammer the ball across the box is beyond me. the man is the most overrated one trick pony in the league. turn him to the inside, and you have rendered him just another average player who happens to dive a lot

I think this has been dis-proven, I used to think the same myself but Bale is quickly turning into one of the best wingers in the world, the man is an animal. His technical ability and positional awareness have vastly improved this season. Give him two more years to develop further and I personally think he will be the best out and out winger in the world.

stampydmonkey

wandatowell wrote: »

In fairness he is a winger, one trick is all he needs

totally agree but the fact that none of the defenders in the league cotton onto it amazes me. same can be said for valencia.

Knex*

stampydmonkey wrote: »

totally agree but the fact that none of the defenders in the league cotton onto it amazes me. same can be said for valencia.

Catching onto it has nothing to do with it. They're two of the fastest players in the PL, catching them when they knock it ahead isn't exactly an easy thing.

stampydmonkey

Knex. wrote: »

Catching onto it has nothing to do with it. They're two of the fastest players in the PL, catching them when they knock it ahead isn't exactly an easy thing.

its called anticipation. if he wants to go on the outside make him work for it. anyway just how i feel, agree he is an animal of a man just think the defenders inc. centre backs should be ready for the ball coming across the box low and early. its the same all the time. do they not watch MOTD

KingdomYid

stampydmonkey wrote: »

its called anticipation. if he wants to go on the outside make him work for it. anyway just how i feel, agree he is an animal of a man just think the defenders inc. centre backs should be ready for the ball coming across the box low and early. its the same all the time. do they not watch MOTD

You are forgetting to mention his goal scoring ability on either foot let me add, proving he is not only a one trick pony winger.

UnawareCaesar

THFC wrote: »

Again, there's a million other reasons to hate Suarez, the diving is just another excuse to ridicule him. There's a word up there that's much more appropriate for Suarez, and ironically, you've used it to describe Bale. I don't see why Suarez should be brought into this thread, he comes across as a vile human being, as well being a proven racist with cannibalistic tendencies. Extremely unfair to Bale to compare the two.

Proven to probably be a racist by a court made up of the people taking out the case against him. In reality it wouldn't have even gotten to a verdict in a court of Law as there was absolutely no evidence. Not much point me saying this though because people will continue to ignore the facts and brand him a racist.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

UnawareCaesar wrote: »

Proven to probably be a racist by a court made up of the people taking out the case against him. In reality it wouldn't have even gotten to a verdict in a court of Law as there was absolutely no evidence. Not much point me saying this though because people will continue to ignore the facts and brand him a racist.

Oh, so it's all a conspiracy?

Kirby

UnawareCaesar wrote: »

Proven to probably be a racist by a court made up of the people taking out the case against him. In reality it wouldn't have even gotten to a verdict in a court of Law as there was absolutely no evidence. Not much point me saying this though because people will continue to ignore the facts and brand him a racist.

Guys can we keep this on point please?

The point, obviously, being that Bale is a talented player who cheats constantly and gets away with it because diving is acceptable in today's game if there was "contact".

He's a cheat. So is Suarez so it's fine to compare Bale to other divers but I hardly think racism allegations have a place in the thread. The threads about Bales ability and his diving. He is a terrific player. Blinding pace, good finisher, good crosser, etc. But the diving and then the denial of being a cheat from him and others.....detracts from his talent.

This "going down to highlight the foul to the ref" lark would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad. If you can stay on your feet and choose not to, you are diving. It's really that simple. You are simulating falling over.....you are pretending and it makes the job of the ref 100 times harder because he can no longer tell if a player has been scythed out of it because there are 7 or 8 fairies falling over constantly every match, in every league.

LuckyLloyd

THFC wrote: »

Oh, so it's all a conspiracy?

No, just a "court" not operating with adequate burdens of proof and acceptable procedures. All very irrelevant really. Suarez has got on with it and is having one hell of a season like the hero hen is, so life goes on.

LuckyLloyd

Kirby wrote: »

Guys can we keep this on point please?

The point, obviously, being that Bale is a talented player who cheats constantly and gets away with it because diving is acceptable in today's game if there was "contact".

He's a cheat. So is Suarez so it's fine to compare Bale to other divers but I hardly think racism allegations have a place in the thread. The threads about Bales ability and his diving. He is a terrific player. Blinding pace, good finisher, good crosser, etc. But the diving and then the denial of being a cheat from him and others.....detracts from his talent.

This "going down to highlight the foul to the ref" lark would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad. If you can stay on your feet and choose not to, you are diving. It's really that simple. You are simulating falling over.....you are pretending and it makes the job of the ref 100 times harder because he can no longer tell if a player has been scythed out of it because there are 7 or 8 fairies falling over constantly every match, in every league.

Good post.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

No, just a "court" not operating with adequate burdens of proof and acceptable procedures. All very irrelevant really. Suarez has got on with it and is having one hell of a season like the hero hen is, so life goes on.

Right. Didn't think many people could possibly deny what Suarez did, but there yeh have it.. I think Dalglish might have a t-shirt you may be interested in wearing.

Kirby

THFC wrote: »

Right. Didn't think many people could possibly deny what Suarez did, but there yeh have it.. I think Dalglish might have a t-shirt you may be interested in wearing.

But why are you trying to deflect? Do you think that by shouting "Look! he's a racist!" that we will all suddenly forget that Bale is a diver?

It's not relevant. If you want to argue Saurez is just as bad a diver, it would be an on topic point. Argue that "Bale's not that bad because everyone does it" I would be with you. But deflecting from the issue isn't fooling anybody. Bale's a cheat. Just because he plays for your team.....it doesn't make him less of one.

TheGunns

Bales a good player but hes lazy at times. Its like hes forgotten why/how he played when he was younger. I dont remember him diving when he was back at Southampton or even in the early days at Spurs.