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How do you respond to chuggers??

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  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Yara Obedient Dean


    I've been accosted by these feckers countless times. I try to be polite and fob them off but other times I have to stand there for a minute listening to them waffle on about what good work they are doing and why I should give them my bank details.
    Why? Do they glue you to the ground? Tie you up? Activate some extreme gravity device?
    Why don't you just get a backbone and keep walking


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,797 ✭✭✭ChopShop


    Tap my wrist as if to say 'Short on time'.

    Or if i'm cranky i say "Sorry, i'm a heartless bastard."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,399 ✭✭✭Bonito


    "Sorry I can't hear you over the massive amount of change jumping about in my pockets."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,952 ✭✭✭Lando Griffin


    One ask them for the loan of a smoke bud.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    ArerA wrote: »
    today a guy from the Hanley Centre stopped me, and asked me to support them.

    I remember being plagued by these people from the Hanley Centre in Galway about 6 or 7 years ago, went down for the races and they were everywhere. In fact they put me off stopping for life, now I usually have my MP3 player in so I either pretend I don't hear them or else I just say, "Sorry I can't stop, in a rush" while finishing off the sentence in my head with "you cnut!"....bit harsh I know but there you go!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,318 ✭✭✭weiland79


    I work in Dublin city and every singe day without fail at lunch time i get asked by the same people on my way to the sandwich shop, and on the way back again ' Hi have you got a minute for concern?'

    It used to really get my back up but I've kinda come to admire their massive brass balls.
    On how to get by them. Simples just smile and say no thanks and KEEP ON WALKING!
    Who gives a fvuk what they think of you.

    Never heard the name chuggers before, where does that come from?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,503 ✭✭✭thefinalstage


    I usually buy tickets to support the Hanley centre. There was a really pretty girl selling them last week, was surprised I knew what the place did. She had a pretty umbrella too :P.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Thanks for reminding me about concern!

    I have had a direct debit with them for ages. Did it through their website. I was walking down henry st the other day and some chugger from concern tried to stop me. I said I had a direct debit but that didn't stop her. She was trying to pressure me into donating more money for pakistan and guilt tripping me over my existing donation.

    Time for concern to lose a donation over those tactics :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,443 ✭✭✭ams


    weiland79 wrote: »

    Never heard the name chuggers before, where does that come from?

    charity muggers


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 433 ✭✭Rocky_Dennis


    I just tell them, im on social welfare, i could do with a donation myself, always works a treat.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,975 ✭✭✭W.Shakes-Beer


    just tell them you donated to the other chap chugging up the road (which you clearly didnt).

    Then go and spend that money in Burger King


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Non-zany type: apologize and politely indicate/say I'm in a rush

    Zany/jump-out/persistent type: tell them to fuck off


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭summerskin


    did it for 5 years in london either on the street or as a manager. got punched three times, punched someone myself once. the pay was good, started at £9.50 an hour and by the time i left i was on over £32000. Over the 5 years i was there the people i signed up donated a total of £924,000 to the charities i represented, roughly 6 times what I earned in that time, making it a great return for the charities.

    Oh, and there is NO COMMISSION involved in chugging at all. just an hourly rate.

    worked with some great people, the training where i worked was excellent(2 weeks long) and eventualy i moved into management.

    one time some business-type cnut at Liverpool st. spat at my colleague. i walked after him and told him that if he did not go back and apologise, I would follow him, find out where he lived and then fcuk his wife while I spat in his face.

    he apologised.

    it's a good way to build a career though, i started "chugging" at age 27, due to disillusionment with my choice of career, and now at 37 manage a business in Ireland with a turnover of over €250m per year. You get excellent training, and good advancement prospects, by the time I left the industry I was managing over 150 people. Also some top days out by the seaside drinking instead of working...

    that said, i'd never do it again.

    the easiest way to avoid them is just say "no thanks" and keep walking. the funniest ones are the people who pretend to be on the phone, and then the phone rings while they hold it to their ears. priceless.

    every chugger has their own type of person they target, i always signed up business men or women, easier to guilt trip them, haha. Some of my colleagues targeted 18-25 year old members of the opposite sex, as it was easy to flirt with them, but they only give small amounts. flirt with a MILF in Kensington and you'd get £50 a month easily.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,970 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    Punch in the face followed by repeated kicks to the stomach usually does the trick i find.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭summerskin


    most chuggers could kick your arse! i worked with some hardcases in my time, who wouldn't take the **** people gave them.

    people think they can insult chuggers with no consequences. one time a guy i know(a rugby player from south africa) stayed in Peterborough for three hours after work looking for the bloke who called him a **** and spat at him, and then he hospitalized him with one punch.

    people who insult chuggers are pathetic really, would you insult anyone else trying to do a job?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 251 ✭✭Tweeter


    Chugger: Do you have a minute for concern?

    Me: Sorry I don't speak English


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    summerskin wrote: »
    people who insult chuggers are pathetic really, would you insult anyone else trying to do a job?

    I've told them to fuck off before, but only if they do idiotic things like jump out in front of me, try and stop me from walking on by moving in front of me or mutter something smart if you don't want to stop. These situations have all happened to me and it constitutes harassment.

    If they approach politely and accept a polite refusal, then I've no problem with them at all.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    I asked one of them one day how much their CEO was on these days?
    120K+ ??

    they were not amused.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39 dazzacon


    When ever a girl chugger comes up to me all smiley and asks do i have a second to talk, I smile back and tell them thanks, i'm flattered, but i already have a girlfriend and walk on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭summerskin


    MidlandsM wrote: »
    I asked one of them one day how much their CEO was on these days?
    120K+ ??

    they were not amused.


    so, who would you like to run a charity?

    if the charity has a turnover of around £150m per year, who should they employ to manage the accounts effectively?

    Some poorly paid accounts technician? or a professional?

    some of you seem to have no idea that a charity has to be run as a business. about 8-12% will cover admin and salary costs, about 20% will go toward fundraising(ie. investing the money to raise MORE money) and the rest goes to the causes.


    but those feckers that are "crazy" and jump out at you, yep, they are annoying ****.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭SV


    I've never seen a tough chugger.
    I've also never seen so much bullshít from one person in one thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    i tried the already giving you money line before, flashed them my make poverty history bracelet a few years ago, told them am already giving them money, they quickly informed me, that campaign was over, and now had a new charity drive.

    the head down in phone, no eyecontact, and head phones usally works.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    SV wrote: »
    I've never seen a tough chugger.
    I've also never seen so much bullshít from one person in one thread.

    +1
    summerskin wrote: »
    so, who would you like to run a charity?

    someone NOT on the kind of salary I referred to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,970 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    They shouldn't be there in my opinion.
    If i want to give to charity i will.
    I don't need some gobsheen with a clip board giving me a hard sell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,205 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    Chugger target the friendliest, most helpful people in society and try to fool them into stopping. They are contributing to making our society more unpleasant as it forces everyone to be wary of strangers flagging them down on the street. So, no, I don't think they deserve a polite response and I'm glad to hear life as a chugger is hard.

    Walk past them, don't acknowledge them. If they try to get in your way walk through them. You shouldn't be getting embarrassed or wasting your time making up complicated excuses, treat them as if they don't even exist. I'd move aside to avoid a pigeon, but chuggers mean nothing to you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,419 ✭✭✭✭jokettle


    When one came up from behind me last week and grabbed the strap of my bag to get my attention, I lost any and all sympathy I'd ever had for these a**holes. Everything was fine until he laid his hands on my possessions. How bloody dare he!? I get angry just thinking about the cheek of that **** :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭summerskin


    SV wrote: »
    I've never seen a tough chugger.
    I've also never seen so much bullshít from one person in one thread.

    funnily i saw plenty of "tough" punters on the street who ran a mile when you confronted them.

    very similar to the keyboard warriors on here, like yourself, who show their ignorance when confronted with facts.

    as for not paying 120k, what do you think you would get for less? someone who is not used to dealing with large accounts and would therefore waste more money.

    the FD at the company i work at now(in the oil trade) earns well over 150k a year for managing a turnover of 250m. if he was to take over as CEO of a charity he would look to be paid at a similar rate as to what he would receive in any other industry.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭summerskin


    jokettle wrote: »
    When one came up from behind me last week and grabbed the strap of my bag to get my attention, I lost any and all sympathy I'd ever had for these a**holes. Everything was fine until he laid his hands on my possessions. How bloody dare he!? I get angry just thinking about the cheek of that **** :mad:

    you should have complained, that would be a sackable offence. the bloke sounds like a tosser.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭SV


    summerskin wrote: »
    funnily i saw plenty of "tough" punters on the street who ran a mile when you confronted them.

    very similar to the keyboard warriors on here, like yourself, who show their ignorance when confronted with facts.

    as for not paying 120k, what do you think you would get for less? someone who is not used to dealing with large accounts and would therefore waste more money.

    the FD at the company i work at now(in the oil trade) earns well over 150k a year for managing a turnover of 250m. if he was to take over as CEO of a charity he would look to be paid at a similar rate as to what he would receive in any other industry.


    lol, I'm not a keyboard warrior.
    I've nothing to prove to anyone on the internetz!


    You still work as a chugger don't you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭summerskin


    not worked in the charity sector for over 5 years now. enjoyed it at the time but wouldn't do it again.

    chuggers can be a pain in the arse, but they are there because the charities want them to be. complain to the charities, not to the chuggers themselves.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32 ArerA


    I remember this one time, coming out of the credit union, there was some charity guy sitting right outside, and was hurling abuse at those who walked past him without contributing.

    Anyhow, just as I was walking out, a garda passed by, and heard him yell abuse at some passer by.

    The garda informed him any donations should be voluntary, and he had a good mind to revoke the permit that he was using to collect.

    Fair play.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,970 ✭✭✭✭28064212


    "Have you got a minute..."

    "No thanks" - Keep on walking, don't break stride, no need to hurry up either. If they follow (sometimes they do) just completely ignore them, don't respond in any way. If they want to waste their time following you up the street, let them. It's their time they're wasting, I don't change what I'm doing one tiny bit.

    The only exception is if they touch you or try to stop you in any way. Tell them if they try that again, you'll report them to their head office. And if they do try it again, report them

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,305 ✭✭✭DOC09UNAM


    iPod, iTouch or iPhone, three easy solutions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 746 ✭✭✭skregs


    feh, seen too much into the inner workings of these charities to be bothered with them. no, sorry usually works fine for getting rid of them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 875 ✭✭✭triseke


    i normally just say "no thanks" and keep walking.

    But about 3 weeks ago i was walking down Grafton St and i was having a very serious phone conversation and i was clearly very upset. And one of those bast ards comes out of nowhere and starts walking beside me asking me to help "insert charity".

    I told him no, and then he called me a snotty bit*ch! I nearly punched him.

    Ignorant tosser.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,178 ✭✭✭✭NothingMan


    Dord wrote: »
    "Do I LOOK concerned?"

    It only really works with the concern ones though. :pac:

    "Do I look Hanley?" Meh, works for me!
    I usually buy tickets to please the really pretty girl selling them last week, was surprised I knew what the place did. She had a pretty umbrella too :P.

    Fyp.

    summerskin wrote: »
    the FD at the company i work at now(in the oil trade) earns well over 150k a year for managing a turnover of 250m. if he was to take over as CEO of a charity he would look to be paid at a similar rate as to what he would receive in any other industry.
    summerskin wrote: »
    not worked in the charity sector for over 5 years now.


    I cannot accept that a charity should be just another sector. If you are asking ordinary people on the streets to donate freely yet have a CEO that would require such a bloated salary doesn't sit right with me. I know plenty of extremely clever and willing people who work with charities and even full time people are on minimal salaries, they are no less talented and clever than corporate big shots who run a charity like concern and maybe they won't get as far because they're not as ruthless but they are the charities I will be donating to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,178 ✭✭✭✭NothingMan


    DOC09UNAM wrote: »
    iPod, iTouch or iPhone, three easy solutions.


    Do Apple now have a tazer app? Sweet!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    summerskin wrote: »
    funnily i saw plenty of "tough" punters on the street who ran a mile when you confronted them.

    very similar to the keyboard warriors on here, like yourself, who show their ignorance when confronted with facts.

    as for not paying 120k, what do you think you would get for less? someone who is not used to dealing with large accounts and would therefore waste more money.

    the FD at the company i work at now(in the oil trade) earns well over 150k a year for managing a turnover of 250m. if he was to take over as CEO of a charity he would look to be paid at a similar rate as to what he would receive in any other industry.

    Summer, 1 word - Bollox.:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭PeterIanStaker


    I just blank them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,381 ✭✭✭fakearms123


    I always pretend I have tourettes and I start shouted "PISS", "PISS COMIN OUTTA MY ASS", it usually freaks them out and I continue walking


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    DOC09UNAM wrote: »
    iPod, iTouch or iPhone, three easy solutions.

    wow, is there nothing the apple brand cant do

    :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,305 ✭✭✭DOC09UNAM


    Sorry to giveaway the secret, but yes, I am Steve Jobs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,633 ✭✭✭maninasia


    summerskin wrote: »
    funnily i saw plenty of "tough" punters on the street who ran a mile when you confronted them.

    very similar to the keyboard warriors on here, like yourself, who show their ignorance when confronted with facts.

    as for not paying 120k, what do you think you would get for less? someone who is not used to dealing with large accounts and would therefore waste more money.

    the FD at the company i work at now(in the oil trade) earns well over 150k a year for managing a turnover of 250m. if he was to take over as CEO of a charity he would look to be paid at a similar rate as to what he would receive in any other industry.

    I work in business and don't agree. Charities are non profit organisations and there is no reason for them to pay any individual that type of money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,633 ✭✭✭maninasia


    summerskin wrote: »
    did it for 5 years in london either on the street or as a manager. got punched three times, punched someone myself once. the pay was good, started at £9.50 an hour and by the time i left i was on over £32000. Over the 5 years i was there the people i signed up donated a total of £924,000 to the charities i represented, roughly 6 times what I earned in that time, making it a great return for the charities.

    Oh, and there is NO COMMISSION involved in chugging at all. just an hourly rate.

    worked with some great people, the training where i worked was excellent(2 weeks long) and eventualy i moved into management.

    one time some business-type cnut at Liverpool st. spat at my colleague. i walked after him and told him that if he did not go back and apologise, I would follow him, find out where he lived and then fcuk his wife while I spat in his face.

    he apologised.

    it's a good way to build a career though, i started "chugging" at age 27, due to disillusionment with my choice of career, and now at 37 manage a business in Ireland with a turnover of over €250m per year. You get excellent training, and good advancement prospects, by the time I left the industry I was managing over 150 people. Also some top days out by the seaside drinking instead of working...

    that said, i'd never do it again.

    the easiest way to avoid them is just say "no thanks" and keep walking. the funniest ones are the people who pretend to be on the phone, and then the phone rings while they hold it to their ears. priceless.

    every chugger has their own type of person they target, i always signed up business men or women, easier to guilt trip them, haha. Some of my colleagues targeted 18-25 year old members of the opposite sex, as it was easy to flirt with them, but they only give small amounts. flirt with a MILF in Kensington and you'd get £50 a month easily.....

    Lower life-form way of making a living...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,633 ✭✭✭maninasia


    summerskin wrote: »
    most chuggers could kick your arse! i worked with some hardcases in my time, who wouldn't take the **** people gave them.

    people think they can insult chuggers with no consequences. one time a guy i know(a rugby player from south africa) stayed in Peterborough for three hours after work looking for the bloke who called him a **** and spat at him, and then he hospitalized him with one punch.

    people who insult chuggers are pathetic really, would you insult anyone else trying to do a job?

    It's not a job, it's a type of harrassment that's worse than begging.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,776 ✭✭✭Noopti


    I generally don't mind them as most of them are the "wave at you half a mile away and when you get close ask for a moment" I just say no, sorry and continue walking.

    BUT....I have noticed these annoying young wans on Grafton Street lately, working for some alchoholics rehab place who don't wear any obvious bibs and they pretty much sneak up on you and start talking. I say "No, sorry" and keep walking and they continue walking beside you and continue talking......seriously annoying. I had to tell one of them to f*ck off last week, first time I have done that with a chugger, but they left me no choice....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    It's guilt-tripping on a very basic level.

    "I should've stopped. But I give to charity already. Now I look like a tosser."

    Suppose that's the general train of thought when dealing with chuggers.

    Depends on the mood you're in too. I was p*ssed off (can't remember why!) and must've shown it as one approached me on Grafton St (Dublin :pac:) and I gave him the "evil look", he didn't bother continuing his approach.

    Even if I'm in a decent mood, I'll just go "no", a little wave and continue walking. I've never had any of them chase me, although I'd probably go postal if they did!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭Jeboa Safari


    What they did in my hometown is they wait outside the post office with a table, directly across form the door so you have to run into them, on pension day and try to get old people to sign up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 746 ✭✭✭skregs


    In Wicklow there a few weeks ago, they'd actually set up bockades on the road forcing cars to slow down and be chugged at


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    ArerA wrote: »
    But yeah -- how do YOU say No to chuggers.

    I was once asked to buy a rehab scratch card for some alco awareness yoke...

    ...I said... well what if I was a gambling addict?


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