Champions League 2010/2011 Group Stage Draw

ntlbell

group G is awsome

lord lucan

Group G should be some craic!

Paul Tergat

yahoo_moe wrote: »

Clearly that's not what I was saying.

I was just asking if they've had as good a run of luck as I think they have.

Relax I was only taking the piss

_Bella_

Group G looks very tough!

Degag

Why are there people in the audience taking pictures?

Gillington

Gillington wrote: »

Zenit in Group G please!

Of course I meant Rubin

Anyway,Auxerre makes Group G a cracker

Raskolnikov

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Disagree. I think they will be tough to beat in Holland. For Milan anyway, maybe not Madrid.

You're going on reputation.

Suarez is a very good player, the likes of de Zeeuw and de Jong are decent players, but the squad gets fairly poor after that with an awful defence. Real Madrid will tear them apart and Milan should have more than enough to take at least 4 points from them.

flahavaj

Group G must the biggest collection of previous European Cup wins ever assembled in a CL group.:pac:

Bob the Seducer

Kazan have a good chance of getting out of their group

rossie1977

Raskolnikov wrote: »

Ajax are not very good these days.

they scored 106 league goals last season so can't be too bad, 19 european cups between those three in that group

_Bella_

Group B is a walkover

Bob the Seducer

Group A

Inter Milan
Werder Bremen
Spurs
FC Twente

Le King

Exhausting group for Arsenal :pac:

Frisbee

Jayzus

Shakhtar
Braga
Partizan


Some amount of travelling and hostile crowds there.

_Bella_

Very winnable group for Arsenal, but lots of travelling unfortunately

lord lucan

Fair bit of travelling for The Arsenal!

Raskolnikov

rossie1977 wrote: »

they scored 106 league goals last season so can't be too bad, 19 european cups between those three in that group

Have you ever watched Dutch football?

Mr.Nice Guy

Raskolnikov wrote:

You're going on reputation.

Suarez is a very good player, the likes of de Zeeuw and de Jong are decent players, but the squad gets fairly poor after that with an awful defence. Real Madrid will tear them apart and Milan should have more than enough to take at least 4 points from them.

I'm going on the basis they scored 106 goals in the Eredivisie last season and when I ha've watched them they have looked very impressive. The Suarez/El Hamdaoui partnership looks promising at this point and they have a top coach in Jol. I was dreading the thought of United winding up with them.

smallerthanyou

Whose black cat did Spurs skin? Group A and G will be fun! Easy enough for Chelsea and United.

Raskolnikov

Rubin will be delighted with that draw, they can beat Barcelona all over again

BOHSBOHS

groups with club rankings

Group A: Inter(5), Werder Bremen(20), Spurs!!!(16), FC Twente(30)

Group B: Lyon(11), Benfica(19), Schalke(32), Hapoel Tel Aviv(52)

Group C: Manchester United(2) , Valencia(12), Rangers(69), Bursaspor(91)

Group Barcelona(1), Panathinaikos(39), Copenhagen(70), Rubin Kazan(40)

Group E: Bayern Munich(6), Roma(11), FC Basel(49), CFR Cluj(92)

Group F: Chelsea(3), Marseille(15), Spartak Moscow(79), MSK Zilna (154)

Group G: AC Milan(15), Real Madrid(4), Ajax(24), Auxerre(44)

Group H: Arsenal(7), Shakhtar Donetsk(27), SC Braga(42), FK Partizan (82)

Raskolnikov

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

I'm going on the basis they scored 106 goals in the Eredivisie last season and when I ha've watched them they have looked very impressive. The Suarez/El Hamdaoui partnership looks promising at this point and they have a top coach in Jol. I was dreading the thought of United winding up with them.

How do you explain their recent form in Europe?

_Bella_

How on earth did Millito player of the year over Sneijder?

Lukker-

Delighted for Rocky and Adrian.

mike65

Spurs are going to get rodgered sideways.

Pepe LeFrits

Are Werder really all that - who have they replaced Ozil with?

nullzero

Lukker- wrote: »

Delighted for Rocky and Adrian.

I had that thought in my head too.
Was Stallone in Argentina in 1978?

eagle eye

mike65 wrote: »

Spurs are going to get rodgered sideways.

Are you kidding? that group suits them perfectly.

Mr.Nice Guy

Raskolnikov wrote: »

How do you explain their recent form in Europe?

They're still a young side. Eriksen is 18, Suarez is 23, Sulejmani is 21, Van Der Wiel is 22 etc. I think they have big potential and it's a pity they got such a tough draw. They can make a bigger impact than Twente did last season or will do this season imo.

nullzero

I'm happy enough with United's draw, Rangers could be tricky if we don't concentrate, a bit like Celtic were a couple of years ago.
Valencia are a bit of an unknown as they've said goodbye to their two best players over the summer, and Buraspor could be a wild card. Turkey isn't a great place to be travelling to as we've discovered over the years.

Group G is nearly too good to be true, although I'd expect Real to stroll it in reality, with AC possibly limping over the line behind them.
Arsenal should qualify easily, but will probably make hard work of it.
Chelsea's only real problem will be travelling to Moscow.
As for Spurs, they could surprise eveyone and make it through although I'd fancy Inter and Bremen in that group.

nullzero

eagle eye wrote: »

Are you kidding? that group suits them perfectly.

Really?
Inter are the reigning champions and Werder Bremen have been around the CL block more than once, I wouldn't expect much from Twente but I'd wager Spurs would be happy with a Europa League place when it's all settled.

unknown13

BOHSBOHS wrote: »

groups with club rankings

Group A: Inter(5), Werder Bremen(20), Spurs!!!(16), FC Twente(30)

Group B: Lyon(11), Benfica(19), Schalke(32), Hapoel Tel Aviv(52)

Group C: Manchester United(2) , Valencia(12), Rangers(69), Bursaspor(91)

Group Barcelona(1), Panathinaikos(39), Copenhagen(70), Rubin Kazan(40)

Group E: Bayern Munich(6), Roma(11), FC Basel(49), CFR Cluj(92)

Group F: Chelsea(3), Marseille(15), Spartak Moscow(79), MSK Zilna (154)

Group G: AC Milan(15), Real Madrid(4), Ajax(24), Auxerre(44)

Group H: Arsenal(7), Shakhtar Donetsk(27), SC Braga(42), FK Partizan (82)

Group B: Easiest group
Group G: Group of Death followed by Group A.

3hn2givr7mx1sc

unknown13 wrote: »

Group B: Easiest group
Group G: Group of Death followed by Group A.

D is much easier than group B.

HoPpiE

baz2009 wrote: »

D is much easier than group B.

Easy for who? If it's because there's a clear winner, then group G could be deemed easy also, as Real should have absolutely no trouble whatsoever.

eZe^

HoPpiE wrote: »

Easy for who? If it's because there's a clear winner, then group G could be deemed easy also, as Real should have absolutely no trouble whatsoever.

The same Real who lost and drew to A.C Milan in the exact same competition last season, and lost both group[ ties against Juventus the year before that? You're deluded if you think they'll have no trouble whatsoever.


Barca's group is disappointing, it seems we alternate between group of death/ easiest group every season. I'd like to have had Spurs at least.

Mr. Guappa

nullzero wrote: »

Really?
Inter are the reigning champions and Werder Bremen have been around the CL block more than once, I wouldn't expect much from Twente but I'd wager Spurs would be happy with a Europa League place when it's all settled.

I think Spurs have a great chance of progressing. We are capable of 7 points from the 3 home games, so a few points on the road and we are in with a great shout. Twente are also capable of taking points from Werder and Inter.

HoPpiE

eZe^ wrote: »

The same Real who lost and drew to A.C Milan in the exact same competition last season, and lost both group[ ties against Juventus the year before that?

No, actually, a different Real for previous season. You'd have noticed if you bothered to have a look.

I was merely saying that it's silly to say those groups could be labelled as being easy just because there's a clear favourite and I took group G as an example, because there is a clear favourite but you wouldn't call it easy.

IvySlayer

Am happy enough with Uniteds draw.

Poor AC Milan! Must be sick of seeing Mourinho winning.

yahoo_moe

Bob the Seducer wrote: »

Group A

Inter Milan
Werder Bremen
Spurs
FC Twente

I think this is more of a 'Group of Death' in terms of how much more even the 2nd-4th teams are.

Group G's only noticeable for having the best Pot 2 team in there really - this 'X amount of European Cups' thing isn't really relevant for Ajax.

3hn2givr7mx1sc

HoPpiE wrote: »

Easy for who? If it's because there's a clear winner, then group G could be deemed easy also, as Real should have absolutely no trouble whatsoever.

D has worse teams in it than B does.

Ush1

B is abit open for my liking. Schalke prolly the toughest 3rd pot team. Still, confident enough Lyon will make it out of it.

everdead.ie

Happy enough with our group Bremen are no slouches but we're here to test ourselves against the best which is what I hope we do a couple of signings and we could be in with a great shout of progressing.

Warper

Really there are going to be few shocks and looking at the Group's it really is going to be a boring few months before the CL actually starts in the KO rounds. Obv the Real, AC, Ajax and Auxerre is the toughest group but really Auxerre are pretty poor and Ajax are no great shakes either but it has the biggest "names".

I wouldnt mind seeing it go back to a KO system based on seeds as they do in tennis to avoid the big guns clashing in the early rounds. These Group stages are just a money spinner and offer little in viewing quality.

HoPpiE

baz2009 wrote: »

D has worse teams in it than B does.

Fair enough so, but I'd say it's more like 50/50 if you put the seeds head to head.

nullzero

everdead.ie wrote: »

Happy enough with our group Bremen are no slouches but we're here to test ourselves against the best which is what I hope we do a couple of signings and we could be in with a great shout of progressing.

You could end up doing a lot better than a lot of people think you will.
At least you'll be in the competition, so even if it all goes pear shaped the money should be a nice cushion, plus I'd heavily fancy your lot to finish at least 3rd, so europe shouldn't be over for you by xmas.

everdead.ie

Bremen away 14/9
Twente home - 29/9
Inter away 20/10
Inter home 2/11
Bremen home 24/11
Twente away 7/12
Start with Bremen away tough tough start

Mr. Guappa

everdead.ie wrote: »

Bremen away 14/9
Twente home - 29/9
Inter away 20/10
Inter home 2/11
Bremen home 24/11
Twente away 7/12
Start with Bremen away tough tough start

I thought they were the odds on a Spurs win in each fixture for a second!


Don't Andy Gray and Richard Keys have a handy gig: flown over to Monaco to provide about 5 minutes of waffle on the draw, followed no doubt by a night on the razz :pac:

citytillidie

Mr. Guappa wrote: »

I thought they were the odds on a Spurs win in each fixture for a second!


Don't Andy Gray and Richard Keys have a handy gig: flown over to Monaco to provide about 5 minutes of waffle on the draw, followed no doubt by a night on the razz :pac:

Do sky not have the Super Cup on Friday so maybe they are there for that

Prufrock

Should be straight forward for the top teams in their groups. Fully expect all top 3 english teams to go through. Spurs could get through but a lot depends on home form. Real and Barca should have it handy. I'd say the same old faces in the knock out round so...and maby spurs.

Ajax could impress but their defence could let them down.

The_Hustler

Mr. Guappa wrote: »

I thought they were the odds on a Spurs win in each fixture for a second!

So did I! I thought they were pretty poor odds for Inter at home!