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Idiots protesting outside Easons...

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    #152
    PomBear
    Registered Users Posts: 1,885 ✭✭✭PomBear


    Hyperbullet wrote: »
    There's better ways of getting your point across than roaring into a megaphone at people who are a few feet away surely? If you're going into the shop and someone's blaring a megaphone while others are putting pamphlets in front of you it just looks and feels extremely aggressive. But that's just my opinion.

    Nobody claimed to be shouted at with a microphone, and hardly an excuse for such blatant attack by many posters here. Putting pamphlets in front of you? hardly aggressive now is it. I think some people need to get over themselves.
    Their fairly recent spiel about the Galway airshow is a fine example. I cant find a copy of their statement ( If I can I'll stick it on here) but it was silly and poorly written. Came across as a bunch of killjoys.

    The same reasons for the Tony Blair protests, it's a worthy cause if any, one can be ignorant to what the red arrows were being used for in Iraq and Afghanistan but if one is open to this, you might feel completely different.


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    #153
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    PomBear wrote: »
    one can be ignorant to what the red arrows were being used for in Iraq and Afghanistan but if one is open to this, you might feel completely different.

    What are you wittering on about.
    I suppose the Cadburys wing walkers carried out a display over Baghdad as well did they?


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    #154
    Rabble Rabble
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,367 ✭✭✭Rabble Rabble


    Can someone answer a question? Were there any protests by the anti-imperialist left of the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.


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    #155
    Rabble Rabble
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,367 ✭✭✭Rabble Rabble


    mikom wrote: »
    What are you wittering on about.
    I suppose the Cadburys wing walkers carried out a display over Baghdad as well did they?

    They buzzed the Taleban.

    War crime.


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    #156
    galwayrush
    Registered Users Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Rabble Rabble wrote: »
    Can someone answer a question? Were there any protests by the anti-imperialist left of the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.

    Only conflicts that involve the UK, U.S.A. and Israel seem to count.:rolleyes:


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    #157
    PomBear
    Registered Users Posts: 1,885 ✭✭✭PomBear


    mikom wrote: »
    What are you wittering on about.
    I suppose the Cadburys wing walkers carried out a display over Baghdad as well did they?

    Red Arrows represent a force which has murdered 130,000 civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan. One can choose to ignore that if they please but I feel the GAAW showing some sort of opposition to give the forces a rousing reception here.
    Cadburys wing walkers?? no idea what you're wittering about either.


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    #158
    McDougal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 583 ✭✭✭McDougal


    Rabble Rabble wrote: »
    Can someone answer a question? Were there any protests by the anti-imperialist left of the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.

    I have no idea. Anyway didn't the Afghan government at the time invite the Soviets in to deal with the religious fundamentalists undermining the state? It wasn't an invasion.


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    #159
    McDougal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 583 ✭✭✭McDougal


    galwayrush wrote: »
    Only conflicts that involve the UK, U.S.A. and Israel seem to count.:rolleyes:

    Probably something to do with those states invading and attacking other states.


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    #160
    galwayrush
    Registered Users Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    McDougal wrote: »
    Probably something to do with those states invading and attacking other states.

    So, where were the GAAW when Sadam invaded Kuwait?


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    #161
    McDougal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 583 ✭✭✭McDougal


    galwayrush wrote: »
    So, where were the GAAW when Sadam invaded Kuwait?

    As far as I'm aware GAAW was only formed as the US prepared to to invade Iraq on the basis of what were blatant lies


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    #162
    galwayrush
    Registered Users Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    McDougal wrote: »
    As far as I'm aware GAAW was only formed as the US prepared to to invade Iraq on the basis of what were blatant lies

    Sadam was an evil despot, or maybe that was a blatant lie as well.:rolleyes:


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    #163
    bytey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 266 ✭✭bytey


    WIll Rick Wakeman be there ?
    im a big fan


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    #164
    Memnoch
    Registered Users Posts: 4,276 ✭✭✭Memnoch


    The logic people resort to in order to justify their vitriol never ceases to amaze me.

    People are slating the protesters for not protesting other things? Do you guys realise how ridiculous that sounds?

    There are a LOT of problems in the world. It's practically impossible for an individual to do something for every one of them, but in the eyes of some people here unless you protest about EVERYTHING that you think is wrong with the world you're a hypocrite, or as some here have tried to label them - a racist!?!?

    So now people who protest against NAMA are assholes because they aren't protesting the Iraq war. And people who protest the Iraq war are assholes because they aren't protesting US missile strikes in Pakistan and people who protest against missile strikes in Pakistan are assholes because they won't protest for equal rights for fathers and people who protest for equal rights for fathers are assholes because they won't campaign for Breast cancer...

    I mean we have this idea on boards, attack the argument not the poster, or the person making the argument.

    Yet FEW if ANY of the posts in this thread are addressing the central issue, i.e. Eason's inviting Tony Blair here to promote his book, instead they resort to slandering and abusing the protesters and then when someone comes back and calls them names they have the brilliant cheek to talk about attacking the argument?

    *shakes head sadly*


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    #165
    McDougal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 583 ✭✭✭McDougal


    galwayrush wrote: »
    Sadam was an evil despot, or maybe that was a blatant lie as well.:rolleyes:

    That may well be but 1 million people would still be alive if the US and Britain didn't invade Iraq. And the people in Iraq are not any better off today, they are worse off so I don't understand your argument.

    Dick Cheney is evil but I still don't believe the world would necessarily be better off if he was hung.


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    #166
    vulcan57
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    PomBear wrote: »
    Red Arrows represent a force which has murdered 130,000 civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan. One can choose to ignore that if they please but I feel the GAAW showing some sort of opposition to give the forces a rousing reception here.
    Cadburys wing walkers?? no idea what you're wittering about either.

    The Red Arrows represent the RAF and they have not murdered 130,000 civilians in Afghanistan and Iraq. The vast majority of deaths are from their own people or those pretending to be acting on their behalf by blowing innocent civilians to pieces in suicide bombings. But, using your words, "One can choose to ignore that if they please" what about the 30 odd thousand that were murdered in the attack on the twin towers or those murdered on the attacks on the London underground, that doesn't come into it maybe, but yet again using your own words "One can choose to ignore that if they please"


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    #167
    vulcan57
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    McDougal wrote: »
    Probably something to do with those states invading and attacking other states.

    Like the Iraqi's have done on several occasions.


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    #168
    majiktripp
    Registered Users Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭majiktripp


    vulcan57 wrote: »
    what about the 30 odd thousand that were murdered in the attack on the twin towers or those murdered on the attacks on the London underground, "

    30,000?! Officially 2,995 in the Twin Towers and 55 in the London bombings I thought...


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    #169
    galwayrush
    Registered Users Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    vulcan57 wrote: »
    Like the Iraqi's have done on several occasions.

    ....and would still be doing if Sadam was not stopped.


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    #170
    Memnoch
    Registered Users Posts: 4,276 ✭✭✭Memnoch


    galwayrush wrote: »
    ....and would still be doing if Sadam was not stopped.

    This is a joke right? The US put Saddam in power, encouraged him to invade Iran and indeed provided him with logistical support and were laughing happily when he used chemical weapons on the Iranians and his own people.

    They also had no problem giving hundreds of millions in aid to pakistan, an Islamic Nuclear armed state run by a dictator for years.

    Or what about the Coup to remove the democratically elected leader of Iran when he was about to stop BP from pillaging the countries resources?

    Yes, of course the USA are all about promoting democracy and freedom and they had to get rid of him for that and that alone.


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    #171
    vulcan57
    Registered Users Posts: 1,348 ✭✭✭vulcan57


    majiktripp wrote: »
    30,000?! Officially 2,995 in the Twin Towers and 55 in the London bombings I thought...

    I stand correct, too eager on the zero's, my point still stands though.


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    #172
    galwayrush
    Registered Users Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Memnoch wrote: »
    This is a joke right? The US put Saddam in power, encouraged him to invade Iran and indeed provided him with logistical support and were laughing happily when he used chemical weapons on the Iranians and his own people.

    They also had no problem giving BILLIONS in aid to pakistan, an Islamic Nuclear armed state run by a dictator for years.

    Or what about the Coup to remove the democratically elected leader of Iran when he was about to stop BP from pillaging the countries resources?

    Yes, of course the USA are all about promoting democracy and freedom and they had to get rid of him for that and that alone.

    Have you erased the invasion of Kuwait from memory? or the fact that during the first Gulf War he ( Sadam_) started firing rockets into Israeli terrority to try and draw them into a conflict thus hoping for other Arab states to join in? No Joke.:rolleyes:


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    #173
    Memnoch
    Registered Users Posts: 4,276 ✭✭✭Memnoch


    vulcan57 wrote: »
    I stand correct, too eager on the zero's, my point still stands though.

    Your point does not stand because the invasion of Iraq had NOTHING to do with the attack on the twin towers. Saddam/Iraq had no involvement with it or with Al Queda.


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    #174
    Memnoch
    Registered Users Posts: 4,276 ✭✭✭Memnoch


    galwayrush wrote: »
    Have you erased the invasion of Kuwait from memory? or the fact that during the first Gulf War he started firing rockets into Israeli terrority to try and draw them into a conflict thus hoping for other Arab states to join in? No Joke.:rolleyes:

    Oh Saddam was a terrible dictator and pure evil. But you're implication that the US were removing him was a great and benevolent act and justified falls apart in the face of their OWN support for him and the manner in which Saddam gained power and their actions in other places around the world.

    The fact is, the only reason Saddam was able to do all that he did was THANKS to the US helping him to power in the first place thanks to their policy of regime change when they don't like the leadership of a country that they want something from.


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    #175
    outwest
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,304 ✭✭✭outwest


    isnt this thread obout a group of poeple protesting over tony blair book,

    the gaaw annoys me, the protest at eason was idiotic, as for the red arrows, i enjoyed them at the volvo rave, there entertaining


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    #176
    Memnoch
    Registered Users Posts: 4,276 ✭✭✭Memnoch


    outwest wrote: »
    isnt this thread obout a group of poeple protesting over tony blair book,

    the gaaw annoys me, the protest at eason was idiotic, as for the red arrows, i enjoyed them at the volvo rave, there entertaining

    Absolutely, the entire thread is attacking the PEOPLE(poster) rather than the arguement they are making.

    ie. that people are unhappy about Easons bringing Tony Blair over to peddle his propaganda.


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    #177
    [Deleted User]
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    Pfft.

    Everyone knows Dubrays is better. Or is it Dubrarys?


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    #178
    PomBear
    Registered Users Posts: 1,885 ✭✭✭PomBear


    vulcan57 wrote: »
    The Red Arrows represent the RAF and they have not murdered 130,000 civilians in Afghanistan and Iraq. The vast majority of deaths are from their own people or those pretending to be acting on their behalf by blowing innocent civilians to pieces in suicide bombings. But, using your words, "One can choose to ignore that if they please" what about the 30 odd thousand that were murdered in the attack on the twin towers or those murdered on the attacks on the London underground, that doesn't come into it maybe, but yet again using your own words "One can choose to ignore that if they please"

    30,000?? it's closer to 3,000 bud.

    Also I think you need to look up the definition of civilian.

    Also the RAF served in Iraq and Afghanistan, do yes their campaign is just imo.


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    #179
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    PomBear wrote: »
    to what the red arrows were being used for in Iraq and Afghanistan but if one is open to this, you might feel completely different.
    mikom wrote: »
    What are you wittering on about.
    I suppose the Cadburys wing walkers carried out a display over Baghdad as well did they?
    PomBear wrote: »
    Red Arrows represent a force which has murdered 130,000 civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan. One can choose to ignore that if they please but I feel the GAAW showing some sort of opposition to give the forces a rousing reception here.
    Cadburys wing walkers?? no idea what you're wittering about either.

    The red arrows are a display team, as are the Cadburys wing walkers.
    Were the red arrows used in Iraq and Afghanistan as you posted initially?
    I don't believe they were.
    Unless of course if they were trying to appease ould Saddam by creating a smoke-trail heart in the sky.......


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    #180
    ?Cee?view
    Registered Users Posts: 2,848 ✭✭✭?Cee?view


    There's a lot of sanctimonious nonsense being spouted here. Attack the post, not the poster etc.

    The fact is that a lot of the signatories of that letter are the same people who have been "protesting" in Galway for over thirty years, quite happy to be supported by the State while doing so. People are quite entitled to be sick and tired of listening to them and their latest crusades. Whether or not one agrees with the Blair witchprojecthunt, it's fully understandable that most Galway people are sick of listening to these same whingers for decades.

    Very disappointing to see Lelia Doolin associating herself with them by signing that letter.


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    #181
    PomBear
    Registered Users Posts: 1,885 ✭✭✭PomBear


    mikom wrote: »
    The red arrows are a display team, as are the Cadburys wing walkers.
    Were the red arrows used in Iraq and Afghanistan as you posted initially?
    I don't believe they were.
    Unless of course if they were trying to appease ould Saddam by creating a smoke-trail heart in the sky.......

    Red Arrows are a branch of the RAF, the RAF bombed and murdered civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan


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