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Tony Blairs booky wook
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Eliot Rosewater wrote: »I've read the whole thread, and I don't think Denerick has said that the protesters should be prevented from protesting. Him thinking they're "idiots" does not in any way negate his views on free speech. Though I believe Richard Boyd Barret has a right to speak, I think what he says is stupid. Does that make me a hypocrite?
For what it's worth, Denerick believes in free speech more than the average person, and more than most here. You should pursue a different line of attack.
Utter nonsense. Calling people fascists and extremists because they want to protest Tony Blair's propaganda campaign is absolute hypocrisy. Here are a few examples from his posts that I take issue with:A small band of retards, Republicans, student twats and thugs gather to throw eggs at the former British Prime Minister.
Such unforgivable idiocy.
Some people would be better off knowing their fúcking place.The people protesting his book signing are essentially fascists, opposed to freedom of speech and academic freedom.
This is why I despise most protestors and the pathetic hive mentality associated with it.The Soviet Union is thataway
>The people protesting are the same shower who'd shoot you if you had a friendship with a Protestant.
The same imbeciles who've kept this country back for generations.My God how I'm sick of the retarded protestors who ruin this countries good name. I'd love to send them all off to Connaught.Just an average guy who believes everybody is entitled to their say, without having to deal with the intimidation by the feckless and the extreme.
If someone made a post here criticising Tony Blair's book signing and Denrick responded with the above kind of rhethoric he would likely face a lengthy ban. But it's okay to resort to Ad Hominem attacks like these against people who aren't here to defend themselves and label them fascists and extremists from being part of a disparate group of protesters. And ALL in the name of free speech too.0 -
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Eliot Rosewater wrote: »What do you mean he is not welcome in this country? Do you think 300 protesters outside Easons have a right to determine who and who is not welcome? The majority of this country do not have a right to bar people from entering. There is the uncomfortable notion of personal liberty, and notion lost on many at the protest, no doubt.
The street was sealed off because of the protest, not the other way around.
I certainly hope not. Whatever he's done in the past, he should be allowed come here. People should be equally allowed express their resentment. Pelting eggs, shouting abuse and wasting Garda resources not included.
1) So you assume that the '300' are the only anti Blair people in the country?
2) Even if there were no protest it still would've been sealed off, any ex British PM has extra security, we will have to disagree on whose fault it was.
3) The guy should be in prison, an Iraqi prison, I'd supply the Camera and leash, we'd need a couple of alsations too. 0 -
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AnimalRights wrote: »1) So you assume that the '300' are the only anti Blair people in the country?
2) Even if there were no protest it still would've been sealed off, any ex British PM has extra security, we will have to disagree on whose fault it was.
3) The guy should be in prison, an Iraqi prison, I'd supply the Camera and leash, we'd need a couple of alsations too.
Why did only 300 turn out so? And why did he get a good reception on the late late last night and get a good turnout for his book signing if he's not welcome here?0 -
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the_monkey wrote: »Scum were protesting today -
pisses me off these demonstrations, most of those people could not give a f*ck about Iraq, they are just looking for trouble ...
I saw an Islam stand outside the GPO today - That is what we should fear ... this terrorism entering our country.
Tony Blair is a nice guy, I hope the GARDAI beat the sh*t out of that SCUM that was arrested today.
You and she would probably get along just fine0 -
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/sep/04/tony-blair-attacked-memoirs-signing
From the article....About 400 people were queuing up around the side of the store in Middle Abbey Street to meet Blair. They were verbally abused by a number of demonstrators who denounced them as "west Brits".
Protester Pixie ni hEicht, from Dublin, criticised both the garda and the hundreds who had turned out for the book signing: "The police are west Brits who are protecting a British terrorist and the people queuing up over there should be ashamed of themselves. All these people buying the book are jackeens and traitors."
Activist Kate O'Sullivan, from Cork, attempted to make a citizen's arrest during the signing before Blair's security team dragged her away.
"I went up to him and I said 'Mr Blair, I'm here to make a citizen's arrest for the war crimes that you've committed'," said O'Sullivan, 24, a member of the Irish Palestine Solidarity Movement.
Richard Boyd-Barrett, of the Anti-War Movement, accused the former prime minister of making blood money from the Iraq war.
Probably the first thing I would do with my signed copy of Tone`s Tome is to have it translated into an Téanga Bheo and sent daily to protesting Pixie ni hEicht who sounds to me like somebody who would have made an ideal Minister in Saddam Hussein`s cabinet...."Yiz are allWest Brit`s, Jackeens,.....and Traitors too....Give my head peace
Having spent most of the morning in and around the vicinity of Sackville...oops sorry...O Connell St I can see where AnimalRights is coming from.
However,as with many of the "Public Order" events in and around An Lar ,the numbers of protesters was quite difficult to accurately quantify due to the comings and goings of Joe Public,who like myself,rambled along to rubberneck before checking the watch and heading back to work,rest or play....
The Queue for the Book Signing was,in contrast,made up of people,seemingly all Jackeens and Traitors, who for many different reasons wanted to get the Authors signature on the inside cover.
It thus became a clash of Titans between,in the minds of "Activists" such as Iníon ni hEicht,the Jackeens and Traitors and the assembled forces of the great and the good,as well as the Socialist Workers Party
( OT perhaps,but is there a quantifiable difference between a "Socialist" Worker and for arguements sake, a Capitalist one ?)
Mr Blair is to my mind a very British version of Dermot Aherne,also in the news this week.
A political lightweight with notions of grandeur,but remember well,both gentlemen who managed to secure significant numbers of free and democratic votes in several elections...something even the redoubtable Mr Boyd-Barret has yet to manage on the national stage.
People appear to forget that this visit has a lot more to do with the Books publishers,Random (Radon?) House,than Tone hisself.
In the usual manner of these things RH will have taken a punt and advanced Mr B a small fortune in anticipation of the thing selling well.
It is then up to the publisher to ensure that this sales event actually happens,thus we have our second most favourite ex British Prime Minister appearing in Easons ( :rolleyes:FFS),rather than the Masonic Hall,The Hellfire or Kildare St Club`s.
Mr Blair,in this instance is merely doing the rounds,with about as much control over his appearances as oul Saddam had at the end...(I`d venture to suggest that Saddam showed more dignity and courage on his scaffold than any of his Western Political victors ? )
Get a grip Pixie,Kate and Richard,develop and understanding of the nuances of how stuff works....Randon House have generated,at zero cost to them, a nice little storm of publicity which is zipping around the world right now to stimulate a few more such protests and purchases.
It is also worthwhile for people to develop and understanding of how the likes of Tony Blair think and better still,how they act...and reading a "work" such as A Journey can only add to their greater wealth of knowledge.
The entire Iraq episode was so Wrong on so many fronts,but it had been wrong from long before Tony Blair burst onto the scene and his biggest error was IMO falling totally into the thrall of Mr Bush and his cabal of dodgy car salesmen.
I`m sure Pixie n`pals would also want to identify with the great many West-Brits who were staunchly opposed to this war and the one before it..Robin Cook,George Galloway,Menzies Campbell and many more Members of the British Parliament were every bit as vehemently anti-war as the bould Pixie,but shure mar a dúirt Pixie, they`d be only sassenach`s..... :rolleyes:
At some future point,Mr Blair,Mr Bush and the leaders of those other less saloubrious countries,whose dead soldiers rarely now merit a mention,will have to face the reality that they were wrong...their war was wrong and all that stemmed from it was wrong....however that fact in itself opens up all sorts of pandora`s boxes...including the one which might paint Saddam H in a somewhat less dastardly hue....Now that really would stimulate some discussion !!! :mad:Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.
Charles Mackay (1812-1889)
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A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »Why name call then when you know the majority did not engage in any aggro?
Prove to me that the majority were not. I've witnessed these spectacles before and they're never very pretty. And why can't I name call, huh? Why are you suppressing my freedom of speech?
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Prove to me that the majority were not. I've witnessed these spectacles before and they're never very pretty. And why can't I name call, huh? Why are you suppressing my freedom of speech?
Of course you are free to do your speech on here although the mods may take a view of the circumstances wrt to the rules. Calling a group of people you do not know retards and idiots just makes any argument that follows seem hollow.
I do not need to prove that the majority of people at the protest today were peaceful as it is self evident. If they were not peaceful, there would be more arrests and the stuff thrown would probably have hit and the media would not be describing today as a minor skirmish.0 -
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