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MSISS???

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  • #52
    Tragedy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,056 ✭✭✭Tragedy


    Only seeing this now!
    higgz wrote: »
    BESS has a mathsy side if you take certain modules in the later years but even then it's nothing compared to other courses.
    BESS students in JF do:
    Intro to Econ
    Maths & Stats

    TSM Economics students do:
    Intro to Econ
    Maths & Stats
    Intro to Economic Policy

    MSISS students do:
    Stats(same content as BESS/Econ)
    Engineering Mathematics 1/2 (described as "designed for students not taking mathematics as a major part of their studies" on the Mathematics course directory - having looked at past papers they seem mostly similar to the Maths covered in BESS, but at a lower level).

    In SF, BESS students choosing Economics do Maths & Stats, MSISS students do three 5 point Stats modules and two 5 point Maths modules.

    In JS, BESS students do Mathematical Economics and Econometrics, MSISS students do one Stats module (with 2 more optional, and an optional Engineering Maths module).

    In SS, BESS students do Quants while MSISS' only option is the same optional Engineering Maths module as offered in JS.
    One of the reasons I've moved away from BESS is that the Maths module in 1st year includes those who got even a C3 in OL maths. Since I do HL it'd be better to do MSISS where I can keep my maths skills on the up.
    Except MSISS doesn't offer any more challenging Maths than BESS does. Speaking as someone who got a C3 in OL Maths, I got firsts in Maths & Stats, Intro to Economics and Organisation & Management in JF. I'd love to hear back from you in a year to see if you achieve better ;)
    It's amazing how important maths skills are now for getting certain jobs. As you've mentioned investment banking, it's one career where they'll take a MSISS graduate over a BESS graduate any day!
    Economics students in BESS take more Financial & Economics modules than MSISS, I'd like to know where you gleaned the information that investment banking take MSISS graduates over BESS graduates 'any day'. BESS students are introduced to quants, which is a big plus when it comes to almost any career in Investment Banking.

    If your end goal is IB, I suggest you take a good read here so you know what you should be working towards.

    +1 on being a trader or investment banker, I've been exploring that too. MSISS is certainly a step towards it, especially with the computer skills you learn.
    A trader is an investment banker. What gave you the idea that third level 'computer skills' were beneficial?


  • #53
    higgz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 129 ✭✭higgz


    Probably got carried away with mylsef on that post :D

    I haven't been to any of the courses yet, just made presumptions.


  • #54
    shadowmoses
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3 ✭shadowmoses


    The idea that engineering maths is a lower level of maths and stats is laughable. My friend does econ and did maths and stats and I regularly helped her out in first year with the course, it's more like a lighter version of msiss first year statistics. Engineering maths is entirely linear algebra and calculus in first year and second year. The exams are always very easy though since they mirror the tutorial questions given during the year. If you attend the tutorials you and work at them at the end of the year you should coast through it.


  • #55
    Groinshot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭Groinshot


    shadowmoses wrote: »
    The idea that engineering maths is a lower level of maths and stats is laughable. My friend does econ and did maths and stats and I regularly helped her out in first year with the course, it's more like a lighter version of msiss first year statistics. Engineering maths is entirely linear algebra and calculus in first year and second year. The exams are always very easy though since they mirror the tutorial questions given during the year. If you attend the tutorials you and work at them at the end of the year you should coast through it.

    My friend did PPES last year, I'm second year engineering and I helped him out with maths and stats too...


  • #56
    shadowmoses
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3 ✭shadowmoses


    Also, @Higgs, congrats and see you at the start of year pub crawl! Don't forget to sign up to DUMSS on freshers week as this is essentially where the banter is had


  • #57
    Tragedy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,056 ✭✭✭Tragedy


    shadowmoses wrote: »
    The idea that engineering maths is a lower level of maths and stats is laughable. My friend does econ and did maths and stats and I regularly helped her out in first year with the course, it's more like a lighter version of msiss first year statistics. Engineering maths is entirely linear algebra and calculus in first year and second year. The exams are always very easy though since they mirror the tutorial questions given during the year. If you attend the tutorials you and work at them at the end of the year you should coast through it.


    I can only go on the exam papers on the website, which is what I said in my post. Judging the two exam papers together, the MSISS exam is a little bit easier but I suspect any TSM/pure Maths student would laugh at both.


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