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lidl s dog food??

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭Galway K9


    **Vai** wrote: »
    they are dogs after all.

    For the record i am not trollling, but i comp go against that attitude towards dogs....theyre equally entitled to life and health as much as us. Were both creatures of the planet


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 369 ✭✭Daisy!


    My Vet said at the very least keep away from any dog food that is coloured. The green "veg" one in the likes of Bakers and Lidl etc is like feeding your dog smarties.

    Out of curiosity, what is the best of the cheaper dog foods? I've started feeding my guy on Red Mills Leader Supreme which my Vet recommended. It's probably in the more medium price range and so far so good but not everyone can afford expensive food. So if people come on here who can't afford the Hills, JW, Orijen etc instead of the Lidl/Bakers/Pedigree what can anyone recommend to them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭andreac


    Galway K9 wrote: »
    What is it andrea?

    Its Clinivet, its not very well known as it isnt available too easily in shops etc but i order it online.:)
    I show my dogs so need them to be in top condition, plus my male rottie has a very sensitive tummy and also suffers from hot spots so i have to feed a high quality food.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭Galway K9


    andreac wrote: »
    Its Clinivet, its not very well known as it isnt available too easily in shops etc but i order it online.:)
    I show my dogs so need them to be in top condition, plus my male rottie has a very sensitive tummy and also suffers from hot spots so i have to feed a high quality food.

    Excellent, looks good!:) Wish i got fed like that. ha


  • Registered Users Posts: 629 ✭✭✭cotton


    I suppose it's like feeding Kids Mc Donalds.
    They love it, are happy out with the taste etc, but it's probably not the best thing for them.
    My 4 have had it the odd time when I've run out of RC on a sunday evening. It's not something I'd feed them as their main diet. Apart from anything else, I'd be afraid the additives in it going by the colours would have them hyper!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 569 ✭✭✭boodlesdoodles


    I have tried my dog on all the expensive brands and the bugger won't eat them. As he's a Westie, I was more than aware of the sensitive skin/stomach problems. He will only eat cheap stinky stuff despite 3 years of buying him decent food and him turning his nose up at it. I've had to give away bags of James Wellbeloved, Royal Canin and Burns!! I've never bought the lidl feed but I would if his nibs got fussy again. His skin is beautiful and pink and he has got a brilliant constitution! If it's what he's happy with then what can I do? And before anyone asks, yes I've tried the starvation trick to get him to eat better but it doesn't work. He's a happy dog.

    Edited to add: though I do stay away from the multi-coloured stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,090 ✭✭✭BengaLover


    Lidl dog food = McDonalds
    VERY poor quality as is there tinned food.
    Best dog/cat food is always dry food from Hills or Royal Canin, dearer but you will use less.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 427 ✭✭verywell


    Galway K9 wrote: »
    If you want value for money and a fantastic Dog food.....

    GAIN record Breaker @ terryland fruit & veg...Did great dela of research into it and its amazing stuff.. My dog gobbles it, and everytime before i feed him i sneak in a bite myself:D thats how good it smells and tastes..

    Its packed with fish oils, calcium, zinc, magnessium, protein, good percentage of actual mea...i act cant get over how good it is....its irelands best kept secret haha

    15kg for 25 euro!!!1

    Is that only for greyhounds or can any dog eat it? Or is all that individual dog food a load of mularkey??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭ISDW


    BengaLover wrote: »
    Lidl dog food = McDonalds
    VERY poor quality as is there tinned food.
    Best dog/cat food is always dry food from Hills or Royal Canin, dearer but you will use less.

    Oh oh:D I and a lot of other posters on here don't rate Hills at all. The vets sell it because they make commission on it


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,713 ✭✭✭lrushe


    Galway K9 wrote: »
    If you want value for money and a fantastic Dog food.....

    GAIN record Breaker @ terryland fruit & veg...Did great dela of research into it and its amazing stuff.. My dog gobbles it, and everytime before i feed him i sneak in a bite myself:D thats how good it smells and tastes..

    Its packed with fish oils, calcium, zinc, magnessium, protein, good percentage of actual mea...i act cant get over how good it is....its irelands best kept secret haha

    15kg for 25 euro!!!1

    I can go one better, I get my GAIN for €17 ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Dymo


    Examine the Analysis of the 3 three dogs foods below, all dry nuts

    1 from Lidl, €8.99 10 kg
    1 is Red Star Dog Food Premium €16 15Kg
    and the other is
    Top of the range dog food €48 for 15 Kg
    A
    Protein 28.0%,
    Fat 14.0%,
    Ash 7.5%,
    Fibre 3.3%,
    Calcium 1.2%,
    Vitamin A 10,000 IU/kg,
    Vitamin D3 1,000 IU/kg,
    Vitamin E 100 mg/kg,
    B
    Protein 26%
    Oils and fats 10%
    Ash: 7.9%
    Fibre: 4%
    Vitamin A 12,000I.U./kg
    Vitamin D3 1,000I.U./kg
    Vitamin E 100mg/kg
    Copper 17mg/kg
    C
    Protein 20%
    Oil 6%
    Fibre 3.5%
    Ash 8%
    Vitamin A 14,000I.U./kg
    Vitamin D3 2,000I.U./kg
    Vitamin E 200mg/kg
    Copper 10%

    Which one is the best for my dog, just trying to get some scientific information instead of some hearsay. The ingredients will vary but it the nutrition value which I'm sure is the most important.

    I say which is which after a few guess's


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭ISDW


    Dymo wrote: »
    Examine the Analysis of the 3 three dogs foods below, all dry nuts

    1 from Lidl, €8.99 10 kg
    1 is Red Star Dog Food Premium €16 15Kg
    and the other is
    Top of the range dog food €48 for 15 Kg







    Which one is the best for my dog, just trying to get some scientific information instead of some hearsay. The ingredients will vary but it the nutrition value which I'm sure is the most important.

    I say which is which after a few guess's

    But the ingredients are very important, as is the order in which they are listed. Meat derivatives are very different to meat, so that is important in choosing a food.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,090 ✭✭✭BengaLover


    ISDW wrote: »
    Oh oh:D I and a lot of other posters on here don't rate Hills at all. The vets sell it because they make commission on it

    ah.... can you recommend a high quality dried food for a cat then plz?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Dymo


    ISDW wrote: »
    But the ingredients are very important, as is the order in which they are listed. Meat derivatives are very different to meat, so that is important in choosing a food.

    Well I'm sure a meat derivatives has less nutritional value than meat so it would reflect that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭ISDW


    Dymo wrote: »
    Well I'm sure a meat derivatives has less nutritional value than meat so it would reflect that.

    It also depends what kind of dog you have, and what you want the dog to be doing. Out of the list you put up, I would rather feed my dogs the one with 28% protein and high fat content, as they are working dogs. However, give that to a pet who gets 30 minutes walk a day and you could have problems. But, without seeing what is actually in the food, I can't make that decision. Some of my dogs don't do great with grains, so would need to try and eliminate that from the food.

    BengaLover, no sorry, I don't know much about cat food, although Royal Canin do it, so maybe theirs?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,740 ✭✭✭Asphyxia


    Feed my dogs Royal Canin they love it and it was recommended by the vet. I HATE brandy it's horrible stuff.. Stay away from it!

    I've had to buy Opti dog before when money was tight and the dogs never had a problem with it if I was ever stuck I'd buy it again as well but that's just my opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,712 ✭✭✭lorebringer


    Dymo wrote: »
    Well I'm sure a meat derivatives has less nutritional value than meat so it would reflect that.

    The analysis of the food if only part of the story - in quite a lot of low quality foods, the nutrients are there but in a very indigestible form. For example, protein - is it of plant or animal origin? Plant proteins are quite difficult for dogs to break down so regardless of how high it is in the analysis, if the dog cannot metabolise it there is no point in feeding it to the dog. Quite a lot of grains contain protein, and are cheap, so are used to bulk up the food and increase the protein in the analysis - but it no good if the poor dog cannot digest it!

    "Cereals" is the one big red flag on a dog food - firstly, they don't specify what cereals are being used and secondly, they usually don't give a percentage. "Meat and animal derivatives" tends to be MRM (mechanically recovered meat), that is the stuff that is left once the muscle (which is what dogs should be eating) has been striped off the carcass - the bones and all remaining sinew are crushed and mushed up so produce "meat and animal derivatives". Companies, by EU law, cannot state "meat" on their packaging because MRM is technically not meat. Most companies will state what meat is used (so it will be listed as "chicken" or "beef") because this is what is actually in the food.

    My own personal opinion on the whole dog food debate is to buy the best stuff that you can afford, do your research and know the facts about dog food. My opinion on Lidl, Aldi, Bakers etc. is they are low quality foods, full of colours etc. to appeal to people to buy them for their pets and are not worth the packaging the come in. Feeding it to dogs every once in a while, when you run out or just get caught short or whatever, is fine (just as eating a take away or a few microwave meals every once in a while is fine) but in terms of long term health and well being of dogs, I wouldn't feed them to my dogs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭Galway K9


    verywell wrote: »
    Is that only for greyhounds or can any dog eat it? Or is all that individual dog food a load of mularkey??

    I recon its all Mularky unlesss your need a specialised food with high protein or low richness to meet a dogs needs / lifestyle

    This food is used for greyhounds but recommended for all dogs due to its content and balance...The difference in my dogs, coat, mood, toilet pattern, energy.....everything!:)I highly recommend it, even taste it yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭Galway K9


    lrushe wrote: »
    I can go one better, I get my GAIN for €17 ;)


    Where?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭EGAR


    GAIN Retired Greyhound (20% protein) sells for 12 yoyos/15kg bag at the local shop.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 29 jayo11


    all the cheap dog food is basically the same quality,not very good at all in fact the expensive stuff isnt much better.dogs have been around for a very long time long before they ever made dog food and what do you think they ate?raw red meat and green veg is great for dogs but cannot be given to them every day.If you have to feed your dog the cheap stuff for monetary reasons then i suggest you give some mince (raw)and broccoli the odd time,if you can afford it give dog red meat 2/3 times per week,as for the person who said "a dog is a dog after all" dogs need to eat good food just like we do as others have said would you eat mcdonalds every day NO.We have a little king charles and we consider her part of the family like most people do i just hope you havnt got a dog


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 806 ✭✭✭pokertalk


    anyway,i didnt try it but instead i give them 2/3 days a week raw meat with veggies and they love it :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 29 jayo11


    pokertalk wrote: »
    anyway,i didnt try it but instead i give them 2/3 days a week raw meat with veggies and they love it :D

    and dog food every other day obviously.what a cheap skate anyways coming on here askin bout lidl dogfood cant afford to feed dogs then dont have any..simples :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭ISDW


    jayo11 wrote: »
    all the cheap dog food is basically the same quality,not very good at all in fact the expensive stuff isnt much better.dogs have been around for a very long time long before they ever made dog food and what do you think they ate?raw red meat and green veg is great for dogs but cannot be given to them every day.If you have to feed your dog the cheap stuff for monetary reasons then i suggest you give some mince (raw)and broccoli the odd time,if you can afford it give dog red meat 2/3 times per week,as for the person who said "a dog is a dog after all" dogs need to eat good food just like we do as others have said would you eat mcdonalds every day NO.We have a little king charles and we consider her part of the family like most people do i just hope you havnt got a dog
    jayo11 wrote: »
    and dog food every other day obviously.what a cheap skate anyways coming on here askin bout lidl dogfood cant afford to feed dogs then dont have any..simples :rolleyes:

    Why not give them raw meat every day?:confused: Dogs can't digest green veg unless its pureed, they don't have the teeth necessary for grinding the goodness out of it, so giving the dog brocolli without pulping it does them no good whatsoever.

    I think your attitude about the Lidls food is very harsh. Pounds and shelters are full to bursting point of dogs, a lot of them in there because of unemployment and migration. I would much rather a family keep their dog in their family and feed it cheap food than get rid of it if their circumstances change.


  • Registered Users Posts: 29 jayo11


    rite so puree it then,or maybe you cant afford a blender muhahahaa:P


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭**Vai**


    Galway K9 wrote: »
    For the record i am not trollling, but i comp go against that attitude towards dogs....theyre equally entitled to life and health as much as us. Were both creatures of the planet

    Obviously. Im not exactly eating caviar myself. People do need to accept that they are dogs though, not little furry children. Anyway, different thread I suppose.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭**Vai**


    jayo11 wrote: »
    and dog food every other day obviously.what a cheap skate anyways coming on here askin bout lidl dogfood cant afford to feed dogs then dont have any..simples :rolleyes:

    Just going to spout nonsense followed by a car insurance catchphrase are we? Maybe the OPs situation has changed recently, who are u to judge?


    Just to clarify, my dogs get the Lidl food with some fresh meat and veg thrown in a few times a week, its not like they're going hungry. No health problems so far, thankfully.


  • Registered Users Posts: 29 jayo11


    ah no i spose iv been a bit harsh your obviously stuck for few bob so i suggest you feed them the lidl stuff and give your kids bread and butter and maybe if your kids dont eat the crust the dogs could have it:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 29 jayo11


    SIMPLES :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 29 jayo11


    **Vai** wrote: »
    Just going to spout nonsense followed by a car insurance catchphrase are we? Maybe the OPs situation has changed recently, who are u to judge?


    Just to clarify, my dogs get the Lidl food with some fresh meat and veg thrown in a few times a week, its not like they're going hungry. No health problems so far, thankfully.


    WHAT?? you feed your dogs meat and veg,i hope you puree that veg ;)


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