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Should i try and join the irish army even though i cant do situps?

  • 03-09-2010 10:14pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1


    I just seen that they are recruiting there, and I really want to join however I dont think im physically ready to try out. I cant do a sit ups like in there video without struggling at 7 but and I struggle at press ups but running its not so bad. Should I wait until they are recruiting next? When would that be? Because I was going to join the gym and get fit this year and then I wanted to join as I just finished school and got my lc this year.

    Any guess when they will recruit after this? When were they recruiting before this?


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭Zambia


    Suck it up Princess.

    Just apply then train.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Zambia232 wrote: »
    Suck it up Princess.

    Just apply then train.

    +1.

    Best of luck too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 65 ✭✭Ans Blix


    I failed the fitness test 3 times, got in on the 4th. I struggled on situps and failed on runs.

    If you want it you'll fight for it


  • Registered Users Posts: 75 ✭✭superref


    Ans Blix wrote: »
    I failed the fitness test 3 times, got in on the 4th. I struggled on situps and failed on runs.

    If you want it you'll fight for it


    your the ideal soldier super fit !!!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 65 ✭✭Ans Blix


    superref wrote: »
    your the ideal soldier super fit !!!!!

    :rolleyes: I'm not a soldier, I dropped out.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,518 ✭✭✭OS119


    i wouldn't bother - if you can't do press-ups, and struggle to get 7 sit-ups you're just wasting your time and theirs.

    given the length of the embargo and the current employment situation in Ireland you're going to be competing against a lot of people for a very few places - the recruiting team are going to have the absolute pick of the crop - and sorry mate, but as a lad just out of school who in physical terms is a bag of shit, you don't even qualify as chaff.

    go away for two years, take any job you can get, stick at it and get very, very fit - then try again. by having civilian employment in a crap job you have proved you can 'stick it out', as well as demonstrating that your choice to join the Army is a decision based on having done other things, rather than having no other experience to compare it with.

    a recruit with a bit of experience of 'real life' (job, flat, girls) and the maturity that doing it all for yourself brings - is vastly more attractive to the Army than a 17 yo who's never had a 'proper' job, and has never lived on his own.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,533 ✭✭✭iceage


    hammer, nail, head.

    Says it all really, but don't be deterred OP if your determined to get in you will, its just that you don't want something as basic as your fitness to drop you at the first hurdle. Sort that out and when your ready get back in there and go for it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭stooodent


    Teddy2010 wrote: »
    I just seen that they are recruiting there, and I really want to join however I dont think im physically ready to try out. I cant do a sit ups like in there video without struggling at 7 but and I struggle at press ups but running its not so bad. Should I wait until they are recruiting next? When would that be? Because I was going to join the gym and get fit this year and then I wanted to join as I just finished school and got my lc this year.

    Any guess when they will recruit after this? When were they recruiting before this?

    I don't think they going to recruiting for long while the military budget has been cut..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,533 ✭✭✭iceage


    stooodent wrote: »
    I don't think they going to recruiting for long while the military budget has been cut..

    Anyway...................


  • Registered Users Posts: 65 ✭✭Ans Blix


    stooodent wrote: »
    I don't think they going to recruiting for long while the military budget has been cut..

    http://www.military.ie/careers/index.htm :rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 44 death wish


    no you shouldnt because you wont get in anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 312 ✭✭paddycam


    stop b**ching and get running.jokes jokes.Everybody can get fit.it just takes will and determination.Have you ever considerd the british army?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 228 ✭✭LevelSpirit


    Dont worry if you cant do situps.
    They'll beat them into you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,518 ✭✭✭OS119


    Dont worry if you cant do situps.
    They'll beat them into you.

    no, they won't - they'll just say 'next please' and your man here can look forward to spending the next few years shoving trollies round Tesco's.

    if you apply now and fail spectacularly at the first hurdle you'll have achieved nothing more than marking your own card for your next application as 'that idiot who couldn't be arsed to get even moderately fit'. you do not want that on your potential recruit file.


  • Registered Users Posts: 65 ✭✭Ans Blix


    OS119 wrote: »
    if you apply now and fail spectacularly at the first hurdle you'll have achieved nothing more than marking your own card for your next application as 'that idiot who couldn't be arsed to get even moderately fit'. you do not want that on your potential recruit file.

    I disagree. Everyone and their mums will be trying out for this, but its the run that fails most people

    AFAIK previous attempts don't count for jack, but as i said before, i got in on the 4th time, you can look at it as i was an unfit fúck or you can call me determined. I don't give a toss whuch one you opt for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭tac foley


    paddycam wrote: »
    stop b**ching and get running.jokes jokes.Everybody can get fit.it just takes will and determination.Have you ever considerd the british army?

    Are you taking the p*ss?

    BFPA Basic Personal Fitness Assessment - Sit ups, press-ups and a 1.5 mile (2.4 km) run, all carried out against the clock. This tests individual fitness generally. The minimum fitness goals are: 54 continuous sit ups (with feet supported) and a 1.5 mile (2.4 km) run in 11 minutes 45 seconds.

    ICFT Infantry Combat Fitness Test - A distance of three miles as a squad carrying 56 pounds of kit each, including their personal weapon. Timed to be completed in one hour, individuals must stay with the squad, or be failed.

    Real up, pal.

    tac


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,533 ✭✭✭iceage


    Its a piece of piss, I'm afraid if you can't do that, and thats the absolute minium required your in for a major dissapointment and a very short stay.

    Go and get yourself sorted out and when your ready have a go. Do you know anyone you can ask to give you a few pointers? Local gym maybe?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,379 ✭✭✭CarrickMcJoe


    Sit ups and Gym! Just what does the Army do?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭tac foley


    Sit ups and Gym! Just what does the Army do?

    You have to be fit to be trained to be fit enough to fight.

    tac


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,379 ✭✭✭CarrickMcJoe


    tac foley wrote: »
    You have to be fit to be trained to be fit enough to fight.

    tac
    Fight who?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭tac foley


    Fight who?

    As I have been reminded on numerous occasions that I'm just a wind-up 'plastic Paddy' I'll let a real Irish person answer that question.

    tac


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,379 ✭✭✭CarrickMcJoe


    Only time I see our highly trained army is escorting the cash deliveries, oh and delivering the chinese on saturday nights:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 312 ✭✭paddycam


    tac foley wrote: »
    Are you taking the p*ss?

    BFPA Basic Personal Fitness Assessment - Sit ups, press-ups and a 1.5 mile (2.4 km) run, all carried out against the clock. This tests individual fitness generally. The minimum fitness goals are: 54 continuous sit ups (with feet supported) and a 1.5 mile (2.4 km) run in 11 minutes 45 seconds.

    ICFT Infantry Combat Fitness Test - A distance of three miles as a squad carrying 56 pounds of kit each, including their personal weapon. Timed to be completed in one hour, individuals must stay with the squad, or be failed.

    Real up, pal.

    tac

    sit ups is only part of officer seliection and its 50 sit-ups in two minutes not continous,
    ADSC-army development and selection course,requries an applicant to complete,heaves(pull ups) jerry can test and a 1.5 mile run.The run time is not always 11:45.My requried run time is 14:30.Push ups are done in a gym session but there's requriment.
    And icft is done at the end of basic training,not part of seliction.

    AND finally,i wasent saying he should go now,i was looking at it from when he gets fit and the irish army isint recruiting,he could try for the british.

    And no im not taking the p**s.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,533 ✭✭✭iceage


    Only time I see our highly trained army is escorting the cash deliveries, oh and delivering the chinese on saturday nights:D

    And your advice would be......

    Oh and Tac the place is awash with plastic Paddys, I'd snigger in your general direction but I happen to be one myself.:p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,266 ✭✭✭Steyr


    Only time I see our highly trained army is escorting the cash deliveries, oh and delivering the chinese on saturday nights:D

    Sniff sniff...........I smell a troll, dont feed it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,266 ✭✭✭Steyr


    tac foley wrote: »
    As I have been reminded on numerous occasions that I'm just a wind-up 'plastic Paddy'

    Total BS Tac, i welcome you and anybody elses positive input here. OP get down to a gym and start doing some Cardio, running/rower/cross trainer and stick at it baby steps first though, find your point where "enough is enough for today" then go back again and work past it all the time gaining your endurance and duration of exercise, maybe some light weights too, it wont happen over night but it will in time, drink loads of water too and dont be afraid to ask a dietician about your diet and in any ways it can be improved so you get the maxiumum from what your eating.

    In most good Gyms now you will find alot of the staff will do programmes for you for weight loss and some will be qualified dieticians.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,533 ✭✭✭iceage


    Seems to be an awful lot of enquiries and in some cases guys haven't a clue, to do with the basic physical requirements for entry. To the Mods, would it help maybe if there was a sticky ref whats required with tips, techniques and hints on fitness? I remember someone posting links to vids.

    I suggested this some time ago if memory serves. Theres a couple of PTI heads here isn't there? Not looking at anyone in particular. :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,267 ✭✭✭concussion


    Physical Fitness test page from military.ie - 4 week plan plus instructional videos
    http://www.military.ie/careers/fitness.htm

    Info on the Annual Fitness Tests (these are NOT the tests required for entrance to the DF), including the very handy wall charts from An Cosantóir
    http://www.1bderdf.com/fitnesstests.htm

    Six part British Army series focussing on the Basic Fitness Test (similar to Irish DF). You must sign up to Scribd to download, but it's free to do so.

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/21438993/BA-Basic-Fitness-Part-1
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/21438999/BA-Basic-Fitness-Part-2
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/21439012/BA-Basic-Fitness-Part-3
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/21439020/BA-Basic-Fitness-Part-4
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/21439025/BA-Basic-Fitness-Part-5
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/21438982/BA-Basic-Fitness-Part-6


    Those are all the quick links I have at the mo, more when I get a chance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,533 ✭✭✭iceage


    Thats the stuff. Cheers for that Concussion, of course it was you I was hinting about :). Might be of help to some of these lads and lasses.

    Concussion gave me a few pointers for my "research" the year before last for a direct comparison between the Britsh Army BFPA(known as a BFT in my day) that I trained up for just for sh*ts and giggles and the PDF equivilent today. Nothing between them really cept chin ups.


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