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German LTE: Not a solution to missing Broadband

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  • 06-09-2010 9:59pm
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    watty
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    the tariffs announced by Vodafone Germany, which will be asking €40 a month (around £33) for 7.2Mb/s, with a 10GB cap, rising to €70 (almost £60) for 50Mb/s speed capped at 30GB. Bust the cap and you're reduced to 3G speeds until the end of the month.
    via http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/09/06/german_lte/
    As predicted. To "work" (and not lose money) LTE needs
    • No Fixed users: There isn't the capacity. 50Mbps would become 1Mbps to 5Mbps
    • To be more expensive than Fixed Broadband (3G/HSPA is voice subsidized).
    • Low cap to keep off fixed users and lower congestion

    LTE isn't a solution for Missing Rural Broadband. The Clue is in the Name. It is for people on the Move. Mobile Users. Just like 3G /HSPA should be.
    True Mobile / "on the go" users (business or pleasure) in Ireland would find Mobile giving 2 to 4 times better performance if there were not so many Fixed users on it (because it's artificially cheaper than DSL and Fixed Broadband availability is poor). Giving the NBS to Mobile Infrastructure is a double "kick in the teeth". To Buisness on the Go, Mobile users and to people that need reliable fixed Broadband at home and work.


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    cgarvey
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    That's a high price compared to ADSL, but (coverage allowing) the Vodafone offering makes home broadband redundant, so is better compared to a combination of mobile and fixed broadband

    Eeek.


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    watty
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    That's a high price compared to ADSL, but (coverage allowing) the Vodafone offering makes home broadband redundant, so is better compared to a combination of mobile and fixed broadband
    Which is complete and utter nonsense.
    With just 8 people watching You Tube the entire capacity of a sector is gone.

    With 20MHz LTE, the PEAK speed /capacity for perfect signal is 100Mbps. But for Average distribution of users in cell the sustained throughput is perhaps 8Mbps to 12Mbps, shared amongst all the users of the sector.

    If there are 10 users only running continuous traffic, then they get about 1Mbps each. 3G/HSPA is 1/4 sized channel so with one user (CDMA issues don't apply) it's simply 1/4 of 20MHz LTE. With 10 continuous traffic users on 3G/HSPA, you suffer from CDMA so maybe some will drop off as cell shrinks and user may get 125kbps each (rather than 250kbps that 5MHz LTE will give).

    Germany is 13th on Speedtest.net. We are 51st.
    Average German Home Broadband speed is about 15Mbps.
    Anyone know what a typical Cap in Germany is? I bet a lot more than 10G or 30G?

    If Germans were using the LTE instead of Fixed Broadband in significant numbers the average LTE speed would be 2Mbps at best, maybe 1Mbps.

    In the sort of numbers we use 3G/HSPA for fixed use, a Top class LTE network would give average speeds of 1Mbps. A lot of people thus would see worse than this at peak time.

    The LTE is more expensive because it's an expensive to run product. Four times the spectrum and no voice revenue to subsidize it. It's not to replace 3G + home broadband.

    It's for people that want x4 to x8 better Mobile performance and will pay for it.


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