The Pat Kenny Show Thread

Slidey

I think you find that a lot of the comments on this thread are in praise of the PK show.

As for Ms Leonard, I think she churns out stuff that is basic cop on alot of the time. I would like to think that the average PK listener is bright enough not to need this kind of common sense advice

Wertz

Yeah a punter. Does that exclude us from having an opinion? I didn't realise you needed a background in something to hold an opinion (valid or otherwise) on it.
As for obvious choice, where pray tell is there daytime radio for current affairs in this country other than on RTÉ? I listen to what I like and turn off what I don't... if like yesterday the radio is out of reach then I get to listen obvious advice about health insurers that anyone with a phone or a web connection could figure out for themselves in 5 minutes. That goes for 99% of what I've heard from her in passing over the years. Kenny seems to hang on her every word. I'm not saying she gives bad advice or is misleading... it's just middle of the road, non committal and quite obvious advice. Half assed is shorthand for that.

As for cliques, none bigger than the cabal in the RTÉ studios...they have their medium and the clique here have theirs. Some would say that the contributors here are of like minds rather than a clique... I disagree with some of the regulars here on some subjects but there is far more succinct discussion on all manner of thing on this and the wider forums than most anything i hear on the national broadcaster on any given day.

Anyway you think she's god's gift to morning radio, I don't. Happy christmas.

P. Breathnach

Slidey wrote: »

... I would like to think that the average PK listener is bright enough not to need this kind of common sense advice

Given the quality of much of the commentary on this forum, I wonder about the average PK listener.

Wertz

You should perhaps wonder more about the average radio forum user...for the most part in the big wide world, the average Kenny listener probably forms quite a large cross section of the country, being of and above a certain age. Forum users tend to be mostly critical in their contributions on almost any given subject; positive commentary normally doesn't incite the same levels of posting and discussion. Nothing wrong with some healthy criticism I've always found...
I notice those who comment on other's negative contributions don't contribute their own positive (or otherwise) comments about the topic at hand around here...

alastair

Wertz wrote: »

Yeah a punter. Does that exclude us from having an opinion? I didn't realise you needed a background in something to hold an opinion (valid or otherwise) on it.
As for obvious choice, where pray tell is there daytime radio for current affairs in this country other than on RTÉ? I listen to what I like and turn off what I don't... if like yesterday the radio is out of reach then I get to listen obvious advice about health insurers that anyone with a phone or a web connection could figure out for themselves in 5 minutes. That goes for 99% of what I've heard from her in passing over the years. Kenny seems to hang on her every word. I'm not saying she gives bad advice or is misleading... it's just middle of the road, non committal and quite obvious advice. Half assed is shorthand for that.

As for cliques, none bigger than the cabal in the RTÉ studios...they have their medium and the clique here have theirs. Some would say that the contributors here are of like minds rather than a clique... I disagree with some of the regulars here on some subjects but there is far more succinct discussion on all manner of thing on this and the wider forums than most anything i hear on the national broadcaster on any given day.

Anyway you think she's god's gift to morning radio, I don't. Happy christmas.

Deary me.

No-one is threatening to take away your opinions, and no-one is claiming Tina Leonard as god's gift - but if you prefer hyperbole - knock yourself out.

I'm simply pointing out that the fallacy that exists in a particular clique here (that she doesn't know what she's talking about) is wrong. She caters for the format and slot she's given - which by necessity involves broad brushstroke advice - which mightn't be your cup of tea, but is certainly not 'spoofing' or 'amateur'.

And you must love Joe Duffy, given your inability to turn him off when you claim not to like the programme. Your opinions would have a great deal more validity if you followed through on the logical consequences of them (and actually tuned out when the stuff you constantly slagged off was on).

A happy new year to you too!

Technocentral

By and large I think Kenny show is best talk/current affairs show in Ireland, most of the posts on this thread are negative though seems to be people looking for something to complain about.

P. Breathnach

Wertz wrote: »

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I notice those who comment on other's negative contributions don't contribute their own positive (or otherwise) comments about the topic at hand around here...

I see one who takes a more positive view of Tina Leonard's contributions. His bona fides is questioned by several posters.

And now you try to undermine my comment on the basis of my not making other comments that might qualify for your approval. I have posted before in this thread - not that it should be considered a necessary condition for making my latest comment.

Callan57

The level of repetition is what annoys me ... week in week out Tina Leonard fills the same slot with almost word for word the same patently obvious platitudes masquerading as advise. I resent paying for this level of mediocrity.

.... and her whiney voice grates on my nerves! :eek:

But it's OK now because I located the OFF button ... I can now successfully deal with the likes of Tina, Paddy The Hat & The OTT Mayo senator/lecturer/journalist/serial public service salary earner etc etc

Other than that I think the PK Show is brilliant & he's by far and away the best current affairs broadcaster we have but I do wish he stick with serious stuff and leave the 'fluff' to Mooney :rolleyes:

Wertz

P. Breathnach wrote: »

I see one who takes a more positive view of Tina Leonard's contributions. His bona fides is questioned by several posters.

And now you try to undermine my comment on the basis of my not making other comments that might qualify for your approval. I have posted before in this thread - not that it should be considered a necessary condition for making my latest comment.

Of course it shouldn't...I just find it ironic that the only time some of you happen along is to criticise others who are being critical, but other than that I rarely see comments from those posters, positive or otherwise on the topics discussed here.
My approval isn't necessary or even relevant, just pointing it out is all.
I wasn't attempting to undermine with that...but you did have a general swipe at some posters here without being specific.

As for Duffy, alastair, I'm sure if you've read the thread you'll know that most of us listen for the callers and the issues at hand, not for the host and all his foibles and input. I switch it off a lot of days... usually in work. If I'm home I'll put up with it if only to keep up with the thread. Nothing wrong with that. My opinion on Duffy remains, I'll give him credit where it's due, but that's rare. Without going off the topic of Kenny, Liveline isn't about Joe Duffy...it's time he remembered that.
My hyperbole is free and you're welcome to add me to the ignore list if that's what floats your boat; think of it as the equivalent of hitting the mute button.

Alwayson

This morning I turned on the Pat Kenny show to hear Paddy O'Gorman interviewing people in graveyards as they paid their respects to deceased friends and loved ones. For every person who allowed him to interview them I wonder how many told him where to go. I certainly would not want a guy with a microphone to approach me while I was visiting a relatives grave so I turned it off.

IvyTheTerrible

Alwayson wrote: »

This morning I turned on the Pat Kenny show to hear Paddy O'Gorman interviewing people in graveyards as they paid their respects to deceased friends and loved ones. For every person who allowed him to interview them I wonder how many told him where to go. I certainly would not want a guy with a microphone to approach me while I was visiting a relatives grave so I turned it off.

Did he haul out the old chestnut of Irish people having a particular interest in visiting their relatives graves?

Itssoeasy

Pat was getting fierce upset over the statement from the DOH not being clear. He should be thankful he got a statement from anyone.

P. Breathnach

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Pat was getting fierce upset over the statement from the DOH not being clear. He should be thankful he got a statement from anyone.

It wasn't a well-written statement, displaying some of the worst form of bureaucratese, but I understood it without needing time to mull over it. Pat is usually quite good at understanding such things, but he seems to have slipped up today. He may have been blinded by the way it was reported in The Independent, which drew attention away from the fact that the levy is a transfer mechanism, and the money actually stays in the health insurance industry.

spank_inferno

Great interview with James Reilly, Minister of health.

I have to say, I'm most impressed with this guy.

He's not afraid to shake things up.
& he's right about the need for auditing the costs of health service provision.

JonathanAnon

spank_inferno wrote: »

Great interview with James Reilly, Minister of health. I have to say, I'm most impressed with this guy.

I like James Reilly as well, but I feel that he's just gonna get caught up in a quagmire of unions, restrictive people and practices.. But he was far more honest than that HSI guy that was on earlier.. We all know that the increase in the levy is gonna cause an increase in premiums, but he wasnt even honest enough to suggest that this may be even a possibilty..

JonathanAnon

"No signs of enfeeblement there"

I see Pat is still using the Word Of The Day toilet paper in the RTE jacks..

spank_inferno

JonathanAnon wrote: »

I like James Reilly as well, but I feel that he's just gonna get caught up in a quagmire of unions, restrictive people and practices..

Agreed
The public rarely notice that the loudest voices complaining about the government regarding health are the vested interests in maintaining the status quo.

Time will tell if he can make the impact he wants to.


Also,.... wasnt that piece about the old lady and her passion for motoring done last year? It sounded familiar.

artful_codger

Paddy talking to people who have forsaken contraception in these hard times.

Royal Dub

Paddy O'Gormless loves the deadbeats

our country is finished folks

3 Times

mickydoomsux

I was grinding my teeth during that entire segment.

There's your "the vulnerable", folks. Worried about how much of their free i-had-a-child money they are losing . Think about that when you see 33% of your income going in tax.

At least you're helping out these poor "unfortunates".

spank_inferno

West dublin really is the land contrception forgot.

The Paddy O'Gorman segment always shows how much a failure the welfare state has turned out to be.

Sympathy though with the young family on low income.... they are at least trying their best.

Leo Dowling

spank_inferno wrote: »

The Paddy O'Gorman segment always shows how much a failure the welfare state broadcaster has turned out to be.

He's a joke of a presenter really. I wouldn't hire him to wash cars, he seems like an utter bufoon.

Royal Dub

....sympathy.....on welfare...continuing to have 4,5 & 6 kids...

sympathy my arse

i work, have one child, seriously think can i afford a second one

mickydoomsux

spank_inferno wrote: »

Sympathy though with the young family on low income.... they are at least trying their best.

Indeed and all the while the welfare state does its best to cut the legs out from under them because they have the audacity to try to go out and earn a living.

Great country.

artful_codger

Leo Dowling wrote: »

He's a joke of a presenter really. I wouldn't hire him to wash cars, he seems like an utter bufoon.

i dunno, i think he does a good job - sticking a microphone in these peoples face and letting them bury themselves. His mock empathy is important when dealing with those types. I can't think of another broadcaster who would talk in person to the dregs of society. Joe Duffy, Mooney ?

Leo Dowling

artful_codger wrote: »

i dunno, i think he does a good job - sticking a microphone in these peoples face and letting them bury themselves. His mock empathy is important when dealing with those types. I can't think of another broadcaster who would talk in person to the dregs of society. Joe Duffy, Mooney ?

They're all rubbish. Henry McKeane does a better job as a roving reporter but he's not particularly good. I don't think O'Gorman is by any means playing a hapless bufoon ala Louis Theroux or Sacha Baron Cohen, I think he's actually just a hapless bufoon.

mickydoomsux

Leo Dowling wrote: »

They're all rubbish. Henry McKeane does a better job as a roving reporter but he's not particularly good. I don't think O'Gorman is by any means playing a hapless bufoon ala Louis Theroux or Sacha Baron Cohen, I think he's actually just a hapless bufoon.

Indeed, he's a Montrose liberal lurvey.

He genuinely felt badly for those women he interviewed.

JonathanAnon

I thought it was funny when Paddy said that a few of the women inside the Social Welfare office were giving out about the "pretty" woman who had her kids dressed well, and they were basically calling her a sponger..

Paddy should have just said "YE'RE ALL SPONGERS"..

That woman with the seven kids by > 3 different fathers should have been castrated..

europa11

Not a fan of Paddy O'Gorman but these interviews are telling and as mentioned above at least it's not some moron like Duffy hosting them, otherwise we'd have Claire Daly or Rich Boy-Barrett out with the microphone.

No harm in highlighting this side of the Welfare State, what often gets me is when what alleged Socialists in this country describe as the "most vunerable in society" brazenly boast of just how much they can "earn" from being in effect baby producing machines with the responsibilites of multiple feckless fathers laughed off "that ones da!..he's doin' ten yee-arse in de 'Joy, heeee, heeee.....and shure the other fellas..heee..heeee, they all scattered off with young wans " cackled one as she collected her 'entitlements'.

Wonderful land.

artful_codger

JonathanAnon wrote: »

Paddy should have just said "YE'RE ALL SPONGERS"..

Wasn't that done in Die Hard 3? - McLane stands outside the Kilbarrack Dole Office wearing a sandwich board saying "I hate spongers".