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spurious

Being able to be in a school for a full day rather than a half day can be handy when picking up deputy classes.

dory

mstorres wrote: »

I have a question for anybody who has done the PDE in UCC.

I got offered a place in the PDE programme for this coming year. I have heard from a school who are willing to take me on for my placement, but only in one of my subjects because they don't offer my other subject.

Does anyone know if you have to teach your two subjects during placement, or would one suffice?

It's no problem at all. I'm doing the same right now. Eventually I got bored of turning up to my 2nd methodology class and not being able to talk about how I taught it as I hadn't taught it so I got one class in it. But there is no rule saying you have to teach it. KNow though that you'll have to turn up to lectures and do the assignment in your second subject. And you'll have to explain to future employers why you never taught it!

Fic

spurious wrote: »

Being able to be in a school for a full day rather than a half day can be handy when picking up deputy classes.

That's definitely a bonus :-)

ABruce

electoralshock wrote: »

You will have only subject however to make up the credits on the course (you need 60) you can take modules in LCVP, SPHE, ICT, LCA, Transition Year etc. These are worth 2.5 credits each whereas History would be worth 5 credits.

Then the other 50 credits will come from Teaching Practice (15), Educational Sciences (15), Professional Development (10), Professional Studies in education (10).

Thanks for the info, i am very bothered that I only have one subject that is recognised. I have a diploma in Spanish and i am hoping that this may also be recognised, i speak spanish french and italian, but never done them to degree level so i assume that i cant do much with them. So i willhave to take two modules in Lcvp etc to get the credits i need. Thanks again

mstorres

dory wrote: »

It's no problem at all. I'm doing the same right now. Eventually I got bored of turning up to my 2nd methodology class and not being able to talk about how I taught it as I hadn't taught it so I got one class in it. But there is no rule saying you have to teach it. KNow though that you'll have to turn up to lectures and do the assignment in your second subject. And you'll have to explain to future employers why you never taught it!

Thanks for that Dory. It would probably be better for me so to try and get a school that offers both my subjects.

Just one more thing. From your experience what is the best way to go about contacting schools? I have CVs made up ready to post, but I have heard of people just dropping into schools as well. It's a pity the schools are closed for Easter holidays at the moment.

carleigh

Hi guys, I got offered the PDE in UCC, but financially I dont think I'll be able to do it this year. I will apply again later this year for 2013 (unless I get a 2nd round offer from one of my other choices closer to home), but would they hold a refusal against me for next year? Thanks in advance.

dory

mstorres wrote: »

Thanks for that Dory. It would probably be better for me so to try and get a school that offers both my subjects.

Just one more thing. From your experience what is the best way to go about contacting schools? I have CVs made up ready to post, but I have heard of people just dropping into schools as well. It's a pity the schools are closed for Easter holidays at the moment.

I went in personally with a CV. But it was my old school so they knew me. I think it's better than just posting.

carleigh wrote: »

Hi guys, I got offered the PDE in UCC, but financially I dont think I'll be able to do it this year. I will apply again later this year for 2013 (unless I get a 2nd round offer from one of my other choices closer to home), but would they hold a refusal against me for next year? Thanks in advance.

Word on the street (from lecturers) is that it'll be a two year course in 2013 so even more of a financial burden. If I were you I'd beg borrow (and maybe not) steal to get the money to do it this year. And no, they won't hold the rejection against you.

Karpops

doconnell wrote: »

I did mine in UCD a few years ago..the big difference between the two is that you will be in school teaching every morning with UCD.Trinity had their teacher placements on Mon.Thurs. and Fri. I felt more in the thick of things being in school every day and found it easier to get to know the staff and students.As regards course content...no major differences there imo.

Hello there! I just got offered the PDE in UCD, and I'm fairly excited! I do have a couple of questions - what exactly is the timetable like? Everyone says its fairly demanding with teaching-studying on the same day. I understand classes start at two in the afternoon, what time do they go onto? I kinda need to know because I have a part time job too, and if I need a change in my contract hours I need to submit it now. I can't get ANY straight answers from UCD. Please help

UnLuckyAgain

Karpops wrote: »

Hello there! I just got offered the PDE in UCD, and I'm fairly excited! I do have a couple of questions - what exactly is the timetable like? Everyone says its fairly demanding with teaching-studying on the same day. I understand classes start at two in the afternoon, what time do they go onto? I kinda need to know because I have a part time job too, and if I need a change in my contract hours I need to submit it now. I can't get ANY straight answers from UCD. Please help

Can't say exactly right now as it depends on your subject methodology courses which may change from year to year. Yes, classes are at 2 Mon-Thurs and then workshops are from 2-4 only every fourth friday. The latest any classes went on until seemed to be 6pm this year. But like I said, it all depends on your subject choice and the timetable for those can change.

amylouise89

Hi, Can anyone please tell me what the story with the 2013 pde is? is it one year or two??

sarahb82

amylouise89 wrote: »

Hi, Can anyone please tell me what the story with the 2013 pde is? is it one year or two??

It's looking like it's going to be two years from 2013. Not really very much information about what is going to be taught over the two years. Just heard bits and pieces from my lecturers in tcd over the last few weeks

amylouise89

That's what I was afraid of! thank you!

dory

sarahb82 wrote: »

It's looking like it's going to be two years from 2013. Not really very much information about what is going to be taught over the two years. Just heard bits and pieces from my lecturers in tcd over the last few weeks

I only heard bits and pieces too. But from what I can gather there'll be a lot more watching teachers teach before actually doing it. And it may be that the first year you're mostly in college and the second year you're mostly in school.

amylouise89

Finally found some info on this (Think it was on the Education Ireland website) but anyway it says from September 2014 so hopefully they wont extend it to two years untill then!!:D

Wyldwood

From the Teaching Council website
With effect from September 2014, postgraduate programmes of initial teacher education accredited by the Teaching Council will be extended to two years full time study or 120 ECTS credits.

Winnieme12

Hi all,

I know this has been asked before but I am hoping for a little bit more information! I have tried with the Teaching Council but not having much luck! I am going doing the PGDE in NUIG this year and only have Geography as my subject. However I am wondering as I did Irish for 1st year Arts if I would be eligible to teach it to Junior Certificate level? I know I wouldn't be for Leaving Cert, but if I have a second subject to JC level I would be content for now!

Also is it recognised in my TP hours if I do classes like LCVP and CSPE?

Thanks to anyone for any help on this!!! :-)

dory

Winnieme12 wrote: »

Hi all,

I know this has been asked before but I am hoping for a little bit more information! I have tried with the Teaching Council but not having much luck! I am going doing the PGDE in NUIG this year and only have Geography as my subject. However I am wondering as I did Irish for 1st year Arts if I would be eligible to teach it to Junior Certificate level? I know I wouldn't be for Leaving Cert, but if I have a second subject to JC level I would be content for now!

Also is it recognised in my TP hours if I do classes like LCVP and CSPE?

Thanks to anyone for any help on this!!! :-)

There's no such thing as being qualified to JC level. You're either qualified or not. what you could do is do the methodology in Irish and try to get the extra credits in Irish in later years to be qualified in that.

Not sure about LCVP but I got CSPE hours counted as my Dip hours because I was doing the methodology in that.

Winnieme12

dory wrote: »

There's no such thing as being qualified to JC level. You're either qualified or not. what you could do is do the methodology in Irish and try to get the extra credits in Irish in later years to be qualified in that.

Not sure about LCVP but I got CSPE hours counted as my Dip hours because I was doing the methodology in that.

Ok thanks! I know I wouldnt be qualified I just thought I heard that somewhere before that you would be allowed to teach it to JC level if you had done it to 1st year uni! No worries, I can look in to other ways around it, like the diploma in Irish or something! Thanks!
You say I could do the methodology in Irish, would I be able to get TP hours from that then? Sorry for all the questions!

Mardy Bum

dory wrote: »

There's no such thing as being qualified to JC level. You're either qualified or not.

Recognition to teach Economics to the highest level in post-primary education also confers recognition to teach
Business Studies at Junior Certificate level.

From teaching council web site.

There are certain subjects you can teach to JC level depending on your major that are not directly related to your degree.

Mardy Bum

Winnieme12 wrote: »

Ok thanks! I know I wouldnt be qualified I just thought I heard that somewhere before that you would be allowed to teach it to JC level if you had done it to 1st year uni! No worries, I can look in to other ways around it, like the diploma in Irish or something! Thanks!
You say I could do the methodology in Irish, would I be able to get TP hours from that then? Sorry for all the questions!

I don't think a diploma is a way around it. It must be a degree in order to qualify properly. The whole 1st year thing is a myth. In years gone by teachers were lumped with subjects to fill hours. It doesnt happen anymore though as much.

Bobsammy

Mardy Bum wrote: »

From teaching council web site.

There are certain subjects you can teach to JC level depending on your major that are not directly related to your degree.

That's mainly for subjects that are different at senior cycle though. For instance being recognised to teach any of the individual sciences at LC automatically means you're recognised for JC Science and the same is true for the Business subjects.

dory

Bobsammy wrote: »

That's mainly for subjects that are different at senior cycle though. For instance being recognised to teach any of the individual sciences at LC automatically means you're recognised for JC Science and the same is true for the Business subjects.

Yea, that's what I was getting at. There's no such thing as being able to teach Irish to JC level. But you may find a principal who is stuck who would hire you.

And in answer to the question about methodologies in college; I know of a few people in UCC who are doing the methodologies in subjects they're not qualified in so it must be possible. But I think they all know that doesn't make them qualified to teach that subject at the end of the year.

ABruce

Winnieme12 wrote: »

Hi all,

I know this has been asked before but I am hoping for a little bit more information! I have tried with the Teaching Council but not having much luck! I am going doing the PGDE in NUIG this year and only have Geography as my subject. However I am wondering as I did Irish for 1st year Arts if I would be eligible to teach it to Junior Certificate level? I know I wouldn't be for Leaving Cert, but if I have a second subject to JC level I would be content for now!

Also is it recognised in my TP hours if I do classes like LCVP and CSPE?

Thanks to anyone for any help on this!!! :-)

Hi Winnieme,
Just like you I am doing the PDE in NUIG next september with just one subject, History. I also found the teaching council staff to be very rude!!! I only qualify to teach History as i took it too my primary degree level. I also done the same % of psychology in my degree and they wont recognise that! I cant imagine that they would allow you to teach irish to JC level. I spoke to the director of the department at NUIG today and she said that with just one subject, I would have to do 2 specialist methodology subjects each worth 2.5 credits each (lcvp, sphe stuff like that). She said that the PDE qualifies me as a teacher, i could then take some more modules after the course to qualify as a teacher in another subject, maybe you could do this with irish after the PDE. Hope this helps.
Also it would be nice to know someone before starting in September, if your interested send me a private message.

dory

ABruce wrote: »

I also done the same % of psychology in my degree and they wont recognise that!

Out of interest, what subject were you looking to teach with psychology?

ABruce

dory wrote: »

Out of interest, what subject were you looking to teach with psychology?

I was hoping that it may be beneficial in the area of resource teaching...possibly?

Winnieme12

ABruce wrote: »

Hi Winnieme,
Just like you I am doing the PDE in NUIG next september with just one subject, History. I also found the teaching council staff to be very rude!!! I only qualify to teach History as i took it too my primary degree level. I also done the same % of psychology in my degree and they wont recognise that! I cant imagine that they would allow you to teach irish to JC level. I spoke to the director of the department at NUIG today and she said that with just one subject, I would have to do 2 specialist methodology subjects each worth 2.5 credits each (lcvp, sphe stuff like that). She said that the PDE qualifies me as a teacher, i could then take some more modules after the course to qualify as a teacher in another subject, maybe you could do this with irish after the PDE. Hope this helps.
Also it would be nice to know someone before starting in September, if your interested send me a private message.

Thanks ABruce,
Good to know there is someone else in the same situation with the one subject! Ya I ended up getting a bit more useful information from the Teaching Council and there will be ways around getting my Irish up to degree level so I just need to work my way around that. I may have to qualify from the PDE first and then do it (time constraints with TP and lectures) but I can do as you would be doing for the methodologies but the lady in the education department said I could also do Irish in my Methodologies but wouldn't be qualified obviously to teach it, which is fair enough. My only problem with that is, that I am afraid with one subject only I could find it tough to have enough Geography hours for my TP. Are you going to do History and then pick up the other subjects like LCVP etc. to make up the 110 TP hours?? Sorry for all the questions!!
Ya I would be up for having a buddy when we start!! Will PM you shortly!

Zippacat

Hi everyone,

I have a question I am hoping can be answered in this thread. I have been accepted into the UCC H Dip and am currently looking for teaching practice. Can anyone tell me anything about Coachford Community College? I realise it is about 30 minutes from UCC but that isn't a problem.

Would you consider this to be a good school to do teaching practice in? Any information would be really appreciated.

Thanks,
Zippacat

dory

I heard it's a wee bit rough. Friend of mine went there. Said it was a laugh but wouldn't want to be a teacher there. They were advertising for teachers for most of this academic year. Sometimes they didn't even specify which subjects just said they needed people. That may not mean anything though.

Zippacat

dory wrote: »

I heard it's a wee bit rough. Friend of mine went there. Said it was a laugh but wouldn't want to be a teacher there. They were advertising for teachers for most of this academic year. Sometimes they didn't even specify which subjects just said they needed people. That may not mean anything though.

Thanks for the info. Any ideas about which schools would be good to do teaching practice in in county cork?

dory

Zippacat wrote: »

Thanks for the info. Any ideas about which schools would be good to do teaching practice in in county cork?

I don't really know. I don't think it really matters to be honest. Us Dippers moan about everything and I never heard anyone complain about the roughness or whatever. If you're given first years they're usually grand and you can build a relationship with them.
The thing with the Dip though is nothing is nothing is taken on board by inspectors. People have 4th and 5th years and they're having major problems. Try to get first years. I was given an older year and said fine, as long as I can have 6 periods of first years so inspectors don't come to my transition years.