Is Ireland "British"?

miss no stars

Cavehill Red, what's your point?

So the term is falling out of favour? It still exists and Ireland is still (believe it or not) included in the term "The British Isles".

Britain and Ireland is exactly that - Britain and Ireland.

The British Isles includes thousands of other islands and some crown dependancies not included as being a part of Great Britain.

Different grouping. Different name.

Now cry me a river, build a bridge and get the hell over it.

Cavehill Red

miss no stars wrote: »

Cavehill Red, what's your point?

So the term is falling out of favour? It still exists and Ireland is still (believe it or not) included in the term "The British Isles".

Britain and Ireland is exactly that - Britain and Ireland.

The British Isles includes thousands of other islands and some crown dependancies not included as being a part of Great Britain.

Different grouping. Different name.

Now cry me a river, build a bridge and get the hell over it.

My point is only you and people who are 150 years old still consider that term legitimate.
The correct term is 'Britain and Ireland'. Alternatives, speaking strictly in a geographical context, include the Atlantic or North-West European Archipelago.
This is Ireland, we're in it, the name of the island is Ireland and the name of the archipelago, according to our state, is Britain and Ireland, and that term is fully accepted by the British establishment.
So, what's your point?

miss no stars

Cavehill Red wrote: »

My point is only you and people who are 150 years old still consider that term legitimate.
The correct term is 'Britain and Ireland'. Alternatives, speaking strictly in a geographical context, include the Atlantic or North-West European Archipelago.
This is Ireland, we're in it, the name of the island is Ireland and the name of the archipelago, according to our state, is Britain and Ireland, and that term is fully accepted by the British establishment.
So, what's your point?

I'm 22 not 222 yet - shock horror - I feel secure enough in Ireland's independence that I don't see the need for all the uptightness about a term that's been in use for centuries. Do I use the term in everyday life? No because where does the need arise? It's just a name for a geographical grouping of Islands. As you have mentioned, there are other options available for those who wish, so what's the great big issue here?

The original question was, does the fact that we're part of the British Isles make us british, the answer being no. Now for some reason you have your knickers in a twist about one of the ways of describing this reigion of cold, wet, atlantic surrounded islands.

MUSEIST

Is Britain really Irish?

Cavehill Red

miss no stars wrote: »

I'm 22 not 222 yet - shock horror - I feel secure enough in Ireland's independence that I don't see the need for all the uptightness about a term that's been in use for centuries.

So why not call this place Hibernia or Eriu? Why pause your historical ruminations a century past?

miss no stars wrote: »

Do I use the term in everyday life? No because where does the need arise? It's just a name for a geographical grouping of Islands. As you have mentioned, there are other options available for those who wish, so what's the great big issue here?

No big issue. You were just wrong is all. The term 'British Isles' is antiquated and causes confusion, since there ARE British Isles, including Wight, the Shetlands, Islay, etc. But not Ireland.

miss no stars wrote: »

The original question was, does the fact that we're part of the British Isles make us british, the answer being no. Now for some reason you have your knickers in a twist about one of the ways of describing this reigion of cold, wet, atlantic surrounded islands.

I don't wear knickers. Your predictive faculties are seriously letting you down tonight.
It may be ONE way to describe this archipelago, but it's the WRONG way. The correct term is Britain and Ireland. Let's accept that and move along, please.
Incidentally, I entirely agree with you that antiquated geographic terminology does not make any of us British.
However, I do respect the terms of the Good Friday Agreement, which asserts that any Irish person from the six counties or indeed any Irish person born before 1949 (or with qualifying ancestors born before that date) is fully entitled to British citizenship and to be referred to as British.

Esel

OP, is there much room under that bridge?

scientific1982

As a result of colonisation we share a lot culturally with the UK. We're like Canada and the US.

DOC09UNAM

RockinRolla wrote: »

Brazil ARE in the America's, so they're Americans.

Don't be so silly, there is two totally different continents.

South america, and North america.

And FTR, Americans is a term used to describe people from the U.S.A.

DOC09UNAM

Cavehill Red wrote: »

So why not call this place Hibernia or Eriu? Why pause your historical ruminations a century past?



No big issue. You were just wrong is all. The term 'British Isles' is antiquated and causes confusion, since there ARE British Isles, including Wight, the Shetlands, Islay, etc. But not Ireland.



I don't wear knickers. Your predictive faculties are seriously letting you down tonight.
It may be ONE way to describe this archipelago, but it's the WRONG way. The correct term is Britain and Ireland. Let's accept that and move along, please.
Incidentally, I entirely agree with you that antiquated geographic terminology does not make any of us British.
However, I do respect the terms of the Good Friday Agreement, which asserts that any Irish person from the six counties or indeed any Irish person born before 1949 (or with qualifying ancestors born before that date) is fully entitled to British citizenship and to be referred to as British.

You seem to be whining about a lot of things recently.

Is there room for a tampon in that sandy vagina?

Cavehill Red

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

You seem to be whining about a lot of things recently.

Is there room for a tampon in that sandy vagina?

Sad.

ddef

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

Don't be so silly, there is two totally different continents.

South america, and North america.

And FTR, Americans is a term used to describe people from the U.S.A.

You are an idiot...read what you just said
North AMERICA and south AMERICA.
they are americans.
people from the USA are citizens of the United States of America.
People from Brazil are citizens of Brazil.
They are both AMERICANS.

iguy

OPENROAD wrote: »

My Head hurts

Mine really hurts,
WE ARE IRISH* OP,GET A FUPPING BLOODY GRIP.
*no offence brummytom,lad I'm sure there is nothing wrong with the British,the past is the past as they say.;-):-D:-P...........:$,
Yours truly iguy.

johnmcdnl

The British Isles is the name of an archipelago consiting of two main islands - Great Britain (England Scotland Wales) and Ireland (obvious enough i hope)...

The UK is a soverign state as is Ireland - Great Britain is just the name of the island OP so there's no hint in the name really...

I don't see how Ireland could really be run by the UK anyways OP or else we'd obviously be sending out troops to Iraq and Afghanistan wouldn't we - that'd be a big hint to show we're supporting them but seeing as we're not that'd give a pretty good hint that the UK's influence isn't that big in our state...

Wolfe Tone

Only one part of Ireland run by the Brits today.

Sheeps

we are spanish

jimmycrackcorm

We're a little bit left of Britain. Please consult the alas.

Einhard

We wish we were British!!

















/stirs the pot just a little more

Mike 1972

Cavehill Red wrote: »

Politically part of Ireland is British-occupied. It's known as Northern Ireland to distinguish it from the rest of the island.

Northern Ireland is not "occupied"

RMD

RockinRolla wrote: »

We aren't kidding anyone by dressing up monkeys and sending them to the Dail every morning - so are we really run, secretly, by Britain? I mean, even the 'auld Geography/Atlas books say we're in the British Isles.

If we're in the British Isles, sure aren't we British then?

FFS, before jumping to idiotic conclusions do some research. The British Isles are a geographical term for a collection islands off the coast of europe due to the fact that Britain is the biggest island of the 2, it's common sense.

lugha

Cavehill Red wrote: »

The term 'British Isles' is antiquated and causes confusion, since there ARE British Isles, including Wight, the Shetlands, Islay, etc. But not Ireland..

Do you also get confused with the labels "Irish sea" or "French channel" though these are not exclusively Irish / French?

Cavehill Red wrote: »

However, I do respect the terms of the Good Friday Agreement, which asserts that any Irish person from the six counties ...

:D:D

gurramok

lugha wrote: »

Do you also get confused with the labels "Irish sea" or "French channel" though these are not exclusively Irish / French?

No humans lives in the Irish sea nor the French channel.

I prefer the name Irish Isles for the name of Ireland and Britain

gurramok

RMD wrote: »

FFS, before jumping to idiotic conclusions do some research. The British Isles are a geographical term for a collection islands off the coast of europe due to the fact that Britain is the biggest island of the 2, it's common sense.

Haha, funny post.

Its a term not invented by the Irish. It ain't recognised by the Irish govt either.

Mike 1972

gurramok wrote: »

. It ain't recognised by the Irish govt either.

how are they with round earth theory

gurramok

Mike 1972 wrote: »

how are they with round earth theory

Dunno, did you ask them?

Bottle_of_Smoke

The OP is the reincarnation of James Connolly!

If you remove the English army tomorrow and hoist the green flag over Dublin Castle, unless you set about the organization of the Socialist Republic your efforts would be in vain. England would still rule you. She would rule you through her capitalists, through her landlords, through her financiers, through the whole array of commercial and individualist institutions she has planted in this country and watered with the tears of our mothers and the blood of our martyrs.

Bottle_of_Smoke

ddef wrote: »

You are an idiot...read what you just said
North AMERICA and south AMERICA.
they are americans.
people from the USA are citizens of the United States of America.
People from Brazil are citizens of Brazil.
They are both AMERICANS.

Heh could see you lasting long in columbia

fionnsda

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Northern Ireland is not "occupied"

really nobody living there then!

Dravokivich

RockinRolla wrote: »

Brazil ARE in the America's, so they're Americans.

Just as the French and the Germans are European...

Minstrel27

Poor trolling attempt by the OP.

Cavehill Red

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Northern Ireland is not "occupied"

Well, it's not British, being part of an entirely separate land mass.
Would you prefer 'British-administrated'?