Is Ireland "British"?

StephenHendry

"The term British Isles is controversial in relation to Ireland,[5][9] where there are objections to its usage due to the association of the word British with Ireland.[10] The Government of Ireland does not use the term[11] and its embassy in London discourages its use.[12] As a result, Britain and Ireland is becoming a preferred description,[10][13][14] and Atlantic Archipelago is increasingly favoured in academia,[15][16][17][18] although British Isles is still commonly employed.[13"


we're irish , we are part of the british isles but we prefer to say britain and ireland instead.

celticbest

snuggles285 wrote: »

Really didn't think that. Thought everyone knew where Ireland was and what Ireland is etc. Ya have been overseas a fair bit. Been to the US and all they talk about is Ireland. Haven't spoken to many foreigners much when abroad but those that I have in France and Spain all knew where Ireland was.

+1.

I always try to wear my Ireland Flag pin badge when away to ensure I not taken as being a Brit or from another native English speaking country. I have never had an issue with anyone confusing me as being English / American etc. once I've stated I'm Irish.

The Term British Isles is England clinging to the last of what was once a great empire, something which they seem to be slowly coming to terms with.

As far as I've seen only maps printed in Britain will ever refer to Ireland & Britain as the British Isles and even this has become less common over the last few years. When I did Geography in School never once was Ireland & Britain referred to as the British Isles & I finished school 16 years ago......;)

Fratton Fred

dasdog wrote: »

The full Irish breakfeast fry up thing is a fudge as the differences between it and the English and other (British) versions are subtle but I tend to eat mediterranean cuisine mostly. It doesn't make me Spanish/Italian. Half of the world watch US movies/tv shows but that doesn't make them US citizens.

I was asked in work what the difference is between a full Englsih breakfast and in Irish one, so I explained that a full Irish breakfast is the same as an English one, but if it was called English, no one in Ireland would eat it.

I may as well told them their kids were ****ing ugly, the reaction I got:D

Oh, white pudding FTW, that's the mkain difference.

celticbest wrote: »

The Term British Isles is England clinging to the last of what was once a great empire, something which they seem to be slowly coming to terms with.

As far as I've seen only maps printed in Britain will ever refer to Ireland & Britain as the British Isles and even this has become less common over the last few years. When I did Geography in School never once was Ireland & Britain referred to as the British Isles & I finished school 16 years ago......;)

err, no, the reality is, England wants rid of the Scots and the Norn Irish, we are fed up paying for them.

oh, is that a Celtic Badge on your sig.....

AnneFrank

Fratton Fred wrote: »

I was asked in work what the difference is between a full Englsih breakfast and in Irish one, so I explained that a full Irish breakfast is the same as an English one, but if it was called English, no one in Ireland would eat it.

I may as well told them their kids were ****ing ugly, the reaction I got:D

Oh, white pudding FTW, that's the mkain difference.




err, no, the reality is, England wants rid of the Scots and the Norn Irish, we are fed up paying for them.

oh, is that a Celtic Badge on your sig.....

funny that,
your happy to call them british where sport is concerned,
ie andy murray...rory mcilroy....darren clarke

Fratton Fred

AnneFrank wrote: »

funny that,
your happy to call them british where sport is concerned,
ie andy murray...rory mcilroy....darren clarke

Who?

Wolfe Tone

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Who?

English people don't have white pudding with their fried brekky?

Jayzus.

losthorizon

we dont eat marmite

Donkey Oaty

Fratton Fred wrote: »

I was asked in work what the difference is between a full Englsih breakfast and in Irish one, so I explained that a full Irish breakfast is the same as an English one, but if it was called English, no one in Ireland would eat it.

Stena Line ferries to continental Europe have an "English Breakfast", but the Holyhead-Dun Laoghaire route has "The Big Breakfast", with the gimmick being that they charge extra for toast.

Fratton Fred

MUSSOLINI wrote: »

English people don't have white pudding with their fried brekky?

Jayzus.

I know, it's shocking. I love the stuff. It is very difficult to get hold of in England as well. I reckon there is a market for a shop selling nothing but White Pudding, Lyons Tea, Barrys Tea and Cheese and Onion Taytos.

I like a nice coddle as well, but only the way my father in law makes it. The snot and ash he drops in it whilst cooking make all the difference.:D

chops1990

Nah, we're Irish. Hence the name Ireland, it's people Irish. The land across the sea is England, it's people English.

celticbest

Fratton Fred wrote: »

oh, is that a Celtic Badge on your sig.....

Yeah, just lending my support to the Irish in Scotland, in much the same way as the Scots do up North

celticbest

Fratton Fred wrote: »

I like a nice coddle as well, but only the way my father in law makes it. The snot and ash he drops in it whilst cooking make all the difference.:D

ah, original Iirsh cooking you can't beat it

Noffles

Fratton Fred wrote: »

I know, it's shocking. I love the stuff. It is very difficult to get hold of in England as well. I reckon there is a market for a shop selling nothing but White Pudding, Lyons Tea, Barrys Tea and Cheese and Onion Taytos.

I like a nice coddle as well, but only the way my father in law makes it. The snot and ash he drops in it whilst cooking make all the difference.:D

WTF is Coddle?
White pudding tastes like vomit and wouldn't improve if served in the UK and crisps are bad for you.

DOC09UNAM

losthorizon wrote: »

no, it is a Union of two separate countrys.

For instance during Soviet times people used to refer to anyone to the Soviet Union as Russian. Remember it was the Soviet Union. Its just a simple mistake - nothing more or less. Armenians were Armenias before Soviet times, during Soviet times and and again now.

if you are from northern ireland, you are considered british.

look it up.

Fratton Fred

Noffles wrote: »

WTF is Coddle?

Bogger:D

gurramok

Fratton Fred wrote: »

I know, it's shocking. I love the stuff. It is very difficult to get hold of in England as well. I reckon there is a market for a shop selling nothing but White Pudding, Lyons Tea, Barrys Tea and Cheese and Onion Taytos.

Try an Irish coffee, ah so delicious. I'm eating an Indian curry noow, I was Irish before it and still Irish munching it and will be Irish when its settled in my belly

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

if you are from northern ireland, you are considered british.

By whom?

sdanseo

MUSSOLINI wrote: »

I for one welcome our new german overlords.

Well, with a name like Mussolini, I suppose you would wouldn't you.

RockinRolla wrote: »

We aren't kidding anyone by dressing up monkeys and sending them to the Dail every morning - so are we really run, secretly, by Britain? I mean, even the 'auld Geography/Atlas books say we're in the British Isles.

If we're in the British Isles, sure aren't we British then?

You're a troll. Leave.

karma_

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

if you are from northern ireland, you are considered british.

look it up.

Not according to my passport, and I'm from Northern Ireland.

DOC09UNAM

gurramok wrote: »

Try an Irish coffee, ah so delicious. I'm eating an Indian curry noow, I was Irish before it and still Irish munching it and will be Irish when its settled in my belly



By whom?

I'm on my phone so i can't link you to anything, but i'm sure if you go onto wikipedia and look up british people you will see.

nullzero

The truth is we're running Britain, keep it quiet, shhh.

DOC09UNAM

karma_ wrote: »

Not according to my passport, and I'm from Northern Ireland.

doesn't matter where you were born, british would never be on your passport anyway, would it?

Donkey Oaty

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

I'm on my phone so i can't link you to anything, but i'm sure if you go onto wikipedia and look up british people you will see.

The Wiki article on "British people" states this:

The Good Friday Agreement guarantees the "recognition of the birthright of all the people of Northern Ireland to identify themselves and be accepted as Irish or British, or both, as they may so choose".

I respect whatever they choose.

Donkey Oaty

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

doesn't matter where you were born, british would never be on your passport anyway, would it?

"British Citizen" is what UK passports say.

DOC09UNAM

The British (also known as Britons, informally Brits, or archaically Britishers) are citizens of the United Kingdom, of the Isle of Man, one of the Channel Islands, or of one of the British overseas territories.


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_people

DOC09UNAM

Donkey Oaty wrote: »

"British Citizen" is what UK passports say.

I see, i thought it would be either "english" "welsh" or "scottish"

Donkey Oaty

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

I see, i thought it would be either "english" "welsh" or "scottish"

I thought your post assumed it would say "UK citizen". I'm not sure what point you were making now.

Fratton Fred

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

I see, i thought it would be either "english" "welsh" or "scottish"

no it doesn't annoyingly.

I'm English, the only time I ever consider myself British is when Andy Murray looks like he might win something.....whoever he is;)

The British people of Northern Ireland are the only people who consider themselves British, the rest of us are English, Scots or Sheep.

KeithAFC

Yes you are.

You have been ruled for over 800 years. Most people in Ireland have English or Scottish blood.

Wolfe Tone

KeithAFC wrote: »

Yes you are.

You have been ruled for over 800 years. Most people in Ireland have English or Scottish blood.

Stir stir stir

RockinRolla

MUSSOLINI wrote: »

Stir stir stir

It's the truth though, even though the f*ck the queen brigade would have you believe otherwise.