Dallas [TNT - US] *Spoilers*

jupiterjack

loved the first episode tonight..

sheao

Have to say I thought it was quite good tonight.

JupiterKid

sheao wrote: »

Have to say I thought it was quite good tonight.

Agreed. The acting was solid and the plot was engaging right from the word go. I think having the actors from the original series was very important and if the following episodes are like the opening one I can see good things for this new series.

Richard Dower

This show will turn into another Revenge, guilty please.

Laois_Man

I enjoyed it but at the same time I found it a bit sad - the old actors and charachters who are now dead and the one's who still live but are dying or withering away.

And the fact that Charlene Tilton has turned into Dolly Parton!

py2006

Richard Dower wrote: »

This show will turn into another Revenge, guilty please.

Eh, Revenge is another Dallas!

JP Liz V1

Kaiser2000 wrote: »

Well it was/is a cultural icon and will probably draw in huge viewers for them so who can blame them

Yep great ratings for TV3

jupiterjack

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Yep great ratings for TV3

Great rating alright, a massive 842,500...RTE will be kicking themselves they didnt get it...

telekon

jupiterjack wrote: »

Great rating alright, a massive 842,500...RTE will be kicking themselves they didnt get it...

Bloody hell, that is massive!! :eek:

Where did you get that figure by the way, been googling like mad here but with no success?

Edit: found it.

http://www.thescore.ie/did-you-see-dallas-last-night-heres-how-it-went-down-583708-Sep2012/

Silvio.Dante

OK I'm confused. Dallas started last monday on TV3. So why is the RTE guide promoting for this week coming?

Also according to the Guide it is on TV3 on Sunday and Monday nights this week.

whats going on..?

grover_green

thought it was pure garbage

patrick duffy has to be the lamest actor who ever lived

py2006

grover_green wrote: »

thought it was pure garbage

patrick duffy has to be the lamest actor who ever lived

What the hell? He is excellent in this, he is given more of a roll than the others and is very strong in it! Give it a few episodes before you decide!

brian_t

Silvio.Dante wrote: »

Also according to the Guide it is on TV3 on Sunday and Monday nights this week.

whats going on..?

TV3 repeats Dallas on a Sunday evening.

Also on Sunday

Bring Back...Dallas is on TV3 at 22:00 on Sunday 9th September

Justin Lee Collins reunites the cast members and some crew of one of the great American soap operas, Dallas meeting Mary Crosby (Kristin Shepard), Linda Gray (Sue Ellen Ewing) and Ken Kercheval (Cliff Barnes)

brian_t

Silvio.Dante wrote: »

Dallas started last monday on TV3. So why is the RTE guide promoting for this week coming?

Because the RTE Gude is owned by RTE.

The other Irish TV Guide (I can't think of it's name) usually gives priority to TV3 programmes.

jupiterjack

its nearly dallas time again...

Lockedout

Could anybody explain to me where all the Ewing money has gone? Bobby is forced to sell his ranch to lend Christopher a couple of million?

Mr E

I think Ewing Oil (as it was in the 80s) is gone, or a shadow of its former glory. They're not as wealthy as they once were.

Ozymandius2011

Mr E wrote: »

I think Ewing Oil (as it was in the 80s) is gone, or a shadow of its former glory. They're not as wealthy as they once were.

Wikipedia says Cliff Barnes owns Ewing Oil now.

I loved Episode 2 but not so much Episode 1. I think this series will have 10 episodes and a second series is planned.

I'm realy curious as to who sent the fake email to Elena breaking up with Christopher.

Edit: I've removed a spoiler but not Barnes owning Ewing oil as I'm pretty sure that was in the final series in 1991.

Lockedout

If Barnes owns it then surely the Ewings got something for it?

Anyway-while it was great to see Larry and Bobby Im still not sure about the series. Its a bit predictable. The characters are your usual American rich fodder -not much depth. Contrast this with Revenge where the story lines are more complex and the angle is more unique. Give it a few more shows..

JP Liz V1

Why does John Ross claim he is the first born Ewing grandchild, JR had another son James Beaumont

py2006

I hope George Kennedy makes an appearance in the second season

Ozymandius2011

Lockedout wrote: »

If Barnes owns it then surely the Ewings got something for it?

Anyway-while it was great to see Larry and Bobby Im still not sure about the series. Its a bit predictable. The characters are your usual American rich fodder -not much depth. Contrast this with Revenge where the story lines are more complex and the angle is more unique. Give it a few more shows..

Edit: What happened is explained here (episode 355).

JP Liz V1 wrote:

Why does John Ross claim he is the first born Ewing grandchild, JR had another son James Beaumont

I read on wikipedia that this remains to be seen.....

My personal opinion, without knowing, is that James Beaumont was just after the Ewing's money and was in fact the son of Vanessa Beaumont's husband. You'd think a sly fox like J.R. would have demanded a paternity test before accepting him as his son. Don't forget in the old series the imposter who pretended to be Jock Ewing.

jupiterjack

Cliff Barnes is back tonight..

McLoughlin

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Why does John Ross claim he is the first born Ewing grandchild, JR had another son James Beaumont

Well that kid would have been a bastard and he wouldn't be counted as the first born.

Lockedout

Im enjoying seeing Larry Hagman but at 82 you wonder how many years he can do this? He to me is the lynch pin of the series. None of the new Characters have his potential/appeal. If he goes-down go the ratings. How is his health??

telekon

Lockedout wrote: »

Im enjoying seeing Larry Hagman but at 82 you wonder how many years he can do this? He to me is the lynch pin of the series. None of the new Characters have his potential/appeal. If he goes-down go the ratings. How is his health??

He's recently recovered from throat cancer and is in remission which is great news obviously. He was going through chemo while filming so time with him on set was limited. This explains his more gravelly sounding voice in Season 1.

Ozymandius2011

Lockedout wrote: »

Im enjoying seeing Larry Hagman but at 82 you wonder how many years he can do this? He to me is the lynch pin of the series. None of the new Characters have his potential/appeal. If he goes-down go the ratings. How is his health??

He's 80 actually. Patrick Duffy/Bobby has a strong fan-network too, as evidenced by the producers begging him to come back after his death (in Pam's dream as it later turned out) proved bad for ratings.

Dub XV

The missus missed last nights episode.

Is it repeated on 3e or anything?

Silvio.Dante

Dub XV wrote: »

The missus missed last nights episode.

Is it repeated on 3e or anything?

This Sunday at 11pm...:)

brian_t

Dub XV wrote: »

The missus missed last nights episode.

Is it repeated on 3e or anything?

If you get Channel 5 it's on tomorrow (Wed) at 9.00pm

Katgurl

i think it is amazing.

I take it it will transpire that christopher is JR's son, all that "you'll never be a ewing christopher" stuff. Didn't Bobby buy him and wasnt' it from Kristen who JR had an affair with?

_Kaiser_

Katgurl wrote: »

i think it is amazing.

I take it it will transpire that christopher is JR's son, all that "you'll never be a ewing christopher" stuff. Didn't Bobby buy him and wasnt' it from Kristen who JR had an affair with?

Asked and answered earlier (by me - big Dallas nerd that I am!)

Ozymandius2011

I'd like to see Jenna Wade (Priscilla Presley) come back.

Lockedout

I know I said the show is dependant on Larry H but christ his wizened features freak me out a bit. Should a man in his 80s still be acting? However, bar him no outstanding actors. Patrick Duffy hasnt learned anything new the last 20 years. Think back to the original series-Jock. Ms Ellie, Lucy-all acted brilliantly. Sure the acting is not wooden but no sparks for me.

JP Liz V1

Source TVLine

Annie Wersching will recur during Season 2 of the hit cable drama Dallas as
an ambitious and sexy transportation commissioner. Sources say
that Wersching’s character, though married, just might mix it up with John
Ross and/or Christopher

Other announced additions which premieres 28th of January 2013, include
Walking Dead alum Emma Bell (as a series regular) and Emmy winner Judith Light,
while Ted Shackelford and Joan Van Ark will reprise their Knots Landing roles of
Gary and Valene Ewing

Lockedout

I think someone mentioned that Gary Ewing will be in season 2. Im glad to hear that. Dont think thats a spoiler really-is it?

The show is growing on me. Its a bit gritter than the original. Particularly that murder last week. However, I think the scene where Tommy tries to kiss his "sister" -quite contrived. Why is she not more open with Christopher now?

The whole thing about Bobby's wife having a love child is just clinched. I know you cant avoid them in these dramas but come on-must do better! Im sorry Im terrible on names!

Anyway-its growing on me.I dont find Larry Hagman's wizened face scary any more. The acting is improving or Im simply more tolerant of it.

Richard Dower

Some exciting casting news for Dallas fans!

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Dallas-Knots-Landing-1055182.aspx?rss=news&partnerid=spi&profileid=05

Lucy/Charlene Tilton returning

Ozymandius2011

Richard Dower wrote: »

Some exciting casting news for Dallas fans!

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Dallas-Knots-Landing-1055182.aspx?rss=news&partnerid=spi&profileid=05

Lucy/Charlene Tilton returning

She is already in it.

MacBoogerBalls

Ozymandius2011 wrote: »

She is already in it.

True, it should be

Garry and Val

.

I hated Val in Knots Landing.

Ozymandius2011

Gary not badlooking for his age (66):

Lockedout

I really enjoyed the last episode revelations. The series is growing on me. The scene with Annie and her ex husband (beautifully played-this guy is the real JR of the series) was chilling. I hope we see more of him in season 2. Didnt watch last 15 minutes but will this eve.

Is JR a bit soft compared to by-gone series?

McSween

Harris Ryland is brilliant Lockedout. Love the way he produced the bottle of wine to Sue Ellen.

cofy

Lockedout wrote: »

I really enjoyed the last episode revelations. The series is growing on me. The scene with Annie and her ex husband (beautifully played-this guy is the real JR of the series) was chilling.

I got the impression that Christopher was Annie's son from the envelope that her ex gave to Bobby, when he threw the envelope on the fire you could clearly see Annie holding a baby and her extreme reaction that Christopher was going to become a father. Anyone else think that?

Katgurl

What - Annie is Christopher's mother? Christopher is the child of Kristen (Sue-ellen's sister) and JR, is he not? Wasn't that the old story but Bobby & Pam bought him.

Lockedout

Im almost certain Christopher's paternity is the son of Kirstein but JR is not the father. Bobby thought that JR was the father and thats why he "bought him" . Christopher's father was trying to sell him as JR's son to up the price . Bobby was in the process of brining the baby to JR (whom he thought was the father) when Pam saw him and assumed Bobby had got her a baby through some form of adoption.

JR found out and wanted to blackmail Bobby by threatening to take away the baby from a smitten Pam. He said he would just be Uncle JR if Bobby gave up his share of Ewing oil. Bobby eventually found out that the man selling Christopher was in fact his father and told JR to FXXX off. I think Chorister's dad is now dead.

cofy

Katgurl wrote: »

What - Annie is Christopher's mother? Christopher is the child of Kristen (Sue-ellen's sister) and JR, is he not? Wasn't that the old story but Bobby & Pam bought him.

Sorry Katgurl, it was just the impression I got when I saw the photo of Annie and a baby. I did not realise that Kirsten was Christophers mother until I read this thread. I wonder what the story will turn out to be between Annie and this baby.

Ozymandius2011

cofy wrote: »

Sorry Katgurl, it was just the impression I got when I saw the photo of Annie and a baby. I did not realise that Kirsten was Christophers mother until I read this thread. I wonder what the story will turn out to be between Annie and this baby.

Kristen not Kirsten.

I don't see how Kristen could not be Christopher's mother or how Annie could be given in the old series she was nowhere to be seen.

My guess about the secret is that she cheated on Bobby with Ryland and they have a lovechild. Or else maybe she is Rebecca's mother with Cliff Barnes. Maybe this whole marriage to Bobby, and Rebecca's to Christopher, is part of some terrible plot by Cliff Barnes to finally bring the Ewings down....

Lockedout

Ozymandius2011 wrote: »

Kristen not Kirsten.

I don't see how Kristen could not be Christopher's mother or how Annie could be given in the old series she was nowhere to be seen.

My guess about the secret is that she cheated on Bobby with Ryland and they have a lovechild. Or else maybe she is Rebecca's mother with Cliff Barnes. Maybe this whole marriage to Bobby, and Rebecca's to Christopher, is part of some terrible plot by Cliff Barnes to finally bring the Ewings down....

I think even for a series that wrote off an entire year with a shower curtain -the above would be a stretch! But who knows?

Richard Dower

Not long to wait for season 2, i hope the January timeslot dosen't hurt rstings. I *assume* if it does well season 3 will be back in the Summer, good show!

bnt

Larry Hagman (J.R.) sadly died yesterday: he was 81. The New York Times is running his obituary online, here.