Dallas [TNT - US] *Spoilers*

py2006

bnt wrote: »

Larry Hagman (J.R.) sadly died yesterday: he was 81. The New York Times is running his obituary online, here.

Terrible news! :-(

Mr E

Now looking down on us with those epic eyebrows.

RIP Larry.....

trendy88

Noooooooooooooooo!! Dallas will never be the same again!!

Richard Dower

I assume they'll do a funeral episode, to huge numbers + a Jr retorspective....the guy was legendary. Does anyone have his apperance on TLLS?

I remember his intro, 10 gallon hat and throwing $100 bills everywhere....classic!

_Kaiser_

RIP Larry.

Grew up watching him every week on Dallas and spent a summer in the 90s watching the reruns on RTE. Also remember watching him in the mid-80s on Sky (back when there was still one one channel) in I Dream of Jeannie.

His portrayal of JR is for me up there with my other favourite TV/movie villain - Gordon Gecko

Wonderful actor, and by all accounts a very nice guy who really enjoyed life and did a lot for charity in his later life. Will sorely be missed.

Definitely the best thing about the new Dallas too which has me immediately concerned about season 2

JoeA3

Very sad to hear it. What a legend, surely the man behind one of the best if not the very best TV characters ever!
I wonder had he filmed any scenes for the next series? I think I remember seeing it was due on screens in early 2013.

Ozymandius2011

Hagman apparently screened 5 episode appearances for Series 2 so we may not have seen the last of JR yet. Will be interesting to see if he is replaced with someone else.

py2006

Ozymandius2011 wrote: »

Hagman apparently screened 5 episode appearances for Series 2 so we may not have seen the last of JR yet. Will be interesting to see if he is replaced with someone else.

Seriously doubt they will replace him.

They will have to reshoot some episodes to incorporate his death and funeral.

Mr E

I'd put money on another few shots fired into the back of his chair.

py2006

The could use a cgi JR for the remainder of the season! :eek:

JP Liz V1

RIP Larry, he created one of the best tv characters ever the villian you loved to hate

Should we expect a who fatally shot JR episode for the new season or has it already been filmed?

Patty O Furniture

Yeah someone told me that today, i didnt believe them til i saw it in the news, total shocker RIP Larry, thanks OP for the NYTimes link, i forgot he was in I Dream of Jeannie as he was so young then, but instantly recognisable!

Also i didnt realise that who shot JR was the second most watched in US history behind Mash, just go to show he had lots of appeal.

Patty O Furniture

If someone wants to watch the repeat again its on tonite again, if you have Ch5 that is.

Time - 19:00 to 20:00 (1 hour long).
When - Monday 26th November on Channel 5

Changing of the Guard. Series 1, episode 1.
Revival of the prime time blockbuster soap. As the Ewings gather for the wedding of Bobby's son Christopher to Rebecca, family quarrels lead to the shock announcement that Bobby is to sell Southfork. Meanwhile, John Ross has struck oil on the land, Christopher's methane extraction plans hit a major snag, and the bride is landed with the groom's former fiancee.
Starring: Larry Hagman, Patrick Duffy, Linda Gray, Josh Henderson, Jesse Metcalfe, Elena Ramos
(Repeat, Followed by 5 News Update, Subtitles, 2012)



Or if you want to relive the classic series it's on every day on CBS Drama at 11pm (& repeated at 8am+1pm) on ch 149, i tuned in a while ago & saw Ray Krebbs who had Jenna staying with him while carryin Bobby's baby!:D Classic stuff.

Ozymandius2011

Reports JR will die in the next series. At least we still have Bobby and Suellen. Gary and Valene Ewing are to return for 3 episodes next year.

TwoShedsJackson

Patty O Furniture wrote: »

Or if you want to relive the classic series it's on every day on CBS Drama at 11pm (& repeated at 8am+1pm) on ch 149, i tuned in a while ago & saw Ray Krebbs who had Jenna staying with him while carryin Bobby's baby!:D Classic stuff.

Shame they are on series 11, it was going well downhill by then. However no doubt they will loop around to the start soon enough

Richard Dower

2x08 will be a Jr Ewing sendoff/funeral episode....a sure fire ratings winner no doubt...one to watch: http://tvline.com/2012/12/10/dallas-jr-ewing-funeral-season-2/

trendy88

Richard Dower

Season 2 - Monday = Tomorrow! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/25/dallas-season-2_n_2551706.html

Mr E

Mr E wrote: »

I'd put money on another few shots fired into the back of his chair.

I heard last week that

this is how it's going to go down too.....

(it's the only way he was ever going to leave the show, in fairness!).

Dublinfan

i know the show premieres in the uk on Tuesday but any word on the Irish date? i watch it online but curious weather we have stepped up and got it early

Mr E

Very enjoyable start to the season. So much backstabbing, double dealing and revenge in two episodes, my head is spinning. Classic Dallas.

_Kaiser_

Mr E wrote: »

Very enjoyable start to the season. So much backstabbing, double dealing and revenge in two episodes, my head is spinning. Classic Dallas.

Oh didn't realise this was back yet. That and The Americans sorts out tonight's TV so

Ozymandius2011

Is it back on on TV3 and if so when?

JP Liz V1

Ozymandius2011 wrote: »

Is it back on on TV3 and if so when?

Tonight at 10pm

py2006

Episode 3 was quite good

squonk

I'm trying to catch up with some much stuff at the moment that I wasn't ready when Dallar came back but I splurged at the weekend and got up to date now. I have to say I'm so impressed with this second season so far. I know poor JR is soon to be heading off to the great big ranch in the sky but when Larry passed away I had grave concerns for the future of the show. Based on Season 1 I didn't think there'd be enough there to carry it otherwise. I think even his brief appearances carried a lot of Season 1 and he was certainly something to behold in Season 2 which makes the actor's death even sadder. However, the new boys appear to be finding their feet and coming into their own. John Ross is definitely JR's son and turning into the slimy little bollox you'd expect and Christoper is definitely Bobby Jr with a little more edge.

They're packing a lot into the episodes at the moment and it's great entertainment. They're having a stronger second season I think than Revenge which started out purporting to be the new kid on the block showing how it's done now but it's starting to look like Dallas is the Daddy and has finally gotten around to getting it's ass-kicking boots on. Currently Dallas is reminding me a lot of the 80's soap staples like, well er, Dallas, but also Dynasty & Falcon Crest which is a great thing. It's interesting to see that Revenge's efforts at the same thing just aren't quite measuring up this season round.

Losing a character like JR would be enough to sink most shows I think. I've a feeling Dallas might just survive though we'll miss JR all the same.

gjc

watched the end of JR today...god Im sad ...RIP Larry Hagman, if you ever have a bit of time on your hands...google the best of JR one liners (videos) there brillliant

py2006

gjc wrote: »

watched the end of JR today...god Im sad ...RIP Larry Hagman, if you ever have a bit of time on your hands...google the best of JR one liners (videos) there brillliant

I thought that episode was next Mon?

Mr E

Nope, it happened last night. Funeral is next week.

py2006

Just watching episode 6 now. I thought the scene with Bobby on his laptop receiving instant messages from JR (without showing him) was a bit odd. As if it was a scene to fill a gap as Hagman was unwell may be?

_Kaiser_

py2006 wrote: »

Just watching episode 6 now. I thought the scene with Bobby on his laptop receiving instant messages from JR (without showing him) was a bit odd. As if it was a scene to fill a gap as Hagman was unwell may be?

I thought the bit where JR gets his new tablet was funny though - "I got enough Angry Birds!" (too true JR)

Just finished watching Ep7 though now - RIP JR/ Larry

McLoughlin

py2006 wrote: »

Just watching episode 6 now. I thought the scene with Bobby on his laptop receiving instant messages from JR (without showing him) was a bit odd. As if it was a scene to fill a gap as Hagman was unwell may be?

JR sent a virus hidden in the message to erase the drive that Bobby had.

gjc

Mr E wrote: »

Nope, it happened last night. Funeral is next week.

JR was iconic ..... Funeral next week hope it gives him a big send out.... He deserves it .....I watched it twice as no more larry hagman after today ..,... (Big tears)

Dublinfan

i liked episode 7, the fake phone calls and reactions where awful though i would have rather a one sided conversation then little bits of old clips

squonk

I'm not sure they were old clips or just other pieces they'd filmed. I was actually wondering if they'd had a contingency in place in some form if he happened to die i.e. the trip to Abu Dhabi and a few scenes already in the can to use to fill that out.

In any case, it's sad and it's terrible to lose one of the great characters in TV soap history. He played that role so damn well.

gjc

I wonder what JRs masterpiece will be??

squonk

gjc wrote: »

I wonder what JRs masterpiece will be??

Yeah, that kind of came from nowhere which leads me to believe that that footage might have been a contingency measure. He was ill during season 1 hence him jetting off on the heli into incommunicado land for a few episodes. I'd have thought it prudent on the part of the producers to have him film a 'final scene' with mention of a generic 'masterpiece' JR type winning plan that they could fill out in the writing at a later stage. The fact that he said such nice things about John Ross seems to suggest this. Also that scene with himself and Bobby where he was looking though old clippings and mentioned how he was a right scoundrel over the years looked like more prepackaged contingency stuff.

Having said that, in Ep 6 where we see JR walking into the courthouse, I'd assumed that it was a doppleganger as we mostly saw his back. The fact that JR did have a few scenes there makes me wonder. I wonder if he was beginning to feel unwell again at that point and wasn't up to a lot of serious dialogue?

You know, at this point, I'd actually really like to see a bonus feature or show on how they put together JR's last scenes and whether or not they had a contingency in place or they were lucky or something else.

Dublinfan

squonk wrote: »

I'm not sure they were old clips or just other pieces they'd filmed. I was actually wondering if they'd had a contingency in place in some form if he happened to die i.e. the trip to Abu Dhabi and a few scenes already in the can to use to fill that out.

In any case, it's sad and it's terrible to lose one of the great characters in TV soap history. He played that role so damn well.

Nah they where old phone calls and scenes chopped together, alot of the lines where from series 1

py2006

The whole racing track thing in the last episode screams of a re-write due to Hagmans passing.

Mr E

I just watched the first 5 minutes to see the aftermath.
The low key intro sequence/tribute was really well done.

gjc

Just after watching jrs funeral god I haven't stopped crying:o:o:o will probably watch it again when I stop. A little piece of my childhood died today. Rip larry hagman

py2006

Just watched it there myself. Very sad indeed. I think they handled the story line very well. I guess we will never know whether that story was written (just in case) or was written literally before shooting (pardon the pun).

I would have liked to have seen an emotional response when Bobby and Sue Ellen received the news of JR's death.

gjc

Would love to say more about show but don't want to spoil it for people who may not have seen it

_Kaiser_

Excellent episode.. loved the redone intro sequence.

I think we're safe enough talking about it as the thread itself has a spoiler warning? If not then stop here....

Poor Sue Ellen. Despite it all she still loved him and I wonder what her relapse will mean now.

John Ross reacted about as expected, but wtf with Emma?

Bobby and Sue Ellen (or Patrick and Linda to be more accurate) are the two I guess it hit hardest. People die in TV shows all the time but in this case they were also saying goodbye to a dear friend from what I've seen of interviews etc. That must have been tough and I'd say a lot of those tears were genuine

RIP JR/Larry.

py2006

Am I right in thinking we are going to get another

'who shot JR'

story line?

gjc

I was half expecting flashback moments but none sad to say totally agree with comments on the intro very nicely done . Have to say the actresses who played Mandy winger and Lucy Ewing time has not been good to them just shows ou how well Linda Grey has kept herself. Jrs other sons well where we're they???? One thing I picked up on was when that dodgy p.i. Of jr told Christopher to find his mother.... He didn't exactly say pam. Music featured heavily in the show also. How do you cover text so that you don't spoil things

Mr E

This thread is for the US pace of the show, and the thread title has a *Spoiler* warning. Anything that has aired up to this point is fair game, and can be discussed without spoiler tags.

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gjc

Right so I seem to have got the clear so here goes on my take of things I reckon Christopher is really jrs son that makes the next generation of brothers at war( wonder where that one came from???). I don't reckon pam is the mother in question that Christopher has to find ( we know in real life vic principal is not coming back) perhaps Kirsten shepherd will shed light or be real mammy and would tie in with the original who shot jr. I reckon Ryland is in cahoots with cliff in some way. As for who shot jr well ?????


Theory two: it was all a dream and jr comes back in the shower heheehee....... I wish!!!

Dublinfan

if it turned of jr was Christophers real father and he had the dna tampered would be the greatest twist of all time

McLoughlin

gjc wrote: »

Right so I seem to have got the clear so here goes on my take of things I reckon Christopher is really jrs son that makes the next generation of brothers at war( wonder where that one came from???). I don't reckon pam is the mother in question that Christopher has to find ( we know in real life vic principal is not coming back) perhaps Kirsten shepherd will shed light or be real mammy and would tie in with the original who shot jr. I reckon Ryland is in cahoots with cliff in some way. As for who shot jr well ?????


Theory two: it was all a dream and jr comes back in the shower heheehee....... I wish!!!

Kirsten is dead and even though It was hinted at that JR was Christogers father it was accepted that Kirstens husband Jeff was the father.