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* Everything HPAT and Medicine for 2011 *

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    #632
    kellogscoffey
    Registered Users Posts: 145 ✭✭kellogscoffey


    Bbbbolger wrote: »
    I'm still a bit dubious about the whole thing. I agree that the CAO/Acer wouldn't do this kind of test without prior warning to Med applicants. They're well aware of the reaction a test like this, without any prior warning, would bring. This thread is a prime example of the sort of reaction that it brings. Someone must have messed up at CAO. As Kellogscoffey said, the HPAT has most likely been marked by now. I highly doubt they just left them sitting there, waiting to be corrected. I wonder if this will get any sort of media coverage in tomorrows papers? Could force the CAO to tell the truth?


    Yeah exactly, its just not very fair like. Entry to college is a serious thing, its not very nice to be causing this kinda worry to students :( but like Im hoping they are the real results, so like that'll affect my interpretation of events, while someone else will be looking for evidence that says they're not, so its hard to tell :(


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    #633
    Joseph...
    Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭Joseph...


    will the cao automaticly know your hpat result from last year and post that up too....any1 here know?


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    #634
    Pugzilla
    Site Banned Posts: 1,765 ✭✭✭Pugzilla


    Joseph... wrote: »
    will the cao automaticly know your hpat result from last year and post that up too....any1 here know?

    They did for me last year...


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    #635
    NotExactly
    Registered Users Posts: 814 ✭✭✭NotExactly


    Joseph... wrote: »
    will the cao automaticly know your hpat result from last year and post that up too....any1 here know?
    Pugzilla wrote: »
    They did for me last year...

    I'd double check that if I was you, just to make sure.


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    #636
    whadabouchasir
    Registered Users Posts: 942 ✭✭✭whadabouchasir


    If it was in your CAO accont that they were posted then i'd say it was more than likely a screw up by th CAO.I remember when I got my results 2 years ago the CAO accidently put up the scores you got in each section by mistake and then had to take them down.ACER sent you an email with a link to view your results.


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    #637
    partyatmygaff
    Registered Users Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    whadabouchasir wrote: »
    If it was in your CAO accont that they were posted then i'd say it was more than likely a screw up by th CAO.I remember when I got my results 2 years ago the CAO accidently put up the scores you got in each section by mistake and then had to take them down.ACER sent you an email with a link to view your results.
    But wouldn't that be right though? What I saw yesterday was marks for each section and a total.


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    #638
    harmo08
    Registered Users Posts: 33 ✭harmo08


    Did anyone else contact them (cao), what did they say about it?


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    #639
    partyatmygaff
    Registered Users Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    I did. They maintained that it was just a test set of results and that the real results will come out in June.


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    #640
    harmo08
    Registered Users Posts: 33 ✭harmo08


    partyatmygaff wrote: »
    I did. They maintained that it was just a test set of results and that the real results will come out in June.

    see thats the part i dont get, they would have just used the same results for everyone rather than giving different ones out. They better not be trying to cover up,

    wonder if we can take legal action against them if they turn out to be lying in june and the results are the same as the ones they released :P


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    #641
    kellogscoffey
    Registered Users Posts: 145 ✭✭kellogscoffey


    Surely they'd have told us about the test run though :mad:


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    #642
    whadabouchasir
    Registered Users Posts: 942 ✭✭✭whadabouchasir


    partyatmygaff wrote: »
    But wouldn't that be right though? What I saw yesterday was marks for each section and a total.
    No they're not meant to give you your results for each section,just your overall score and your overall percentile.


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    #643
    Jaafa
    Registered Users Posts: 2,621 ✭✭✭Jaafa


    whadabouchasir wrote: »
    No they're not meant to give you your results for each section,just your overall score and your overall percentile.

    Then perhaps it was a botched test run....


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    #644
    JamJamJamJam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭JamJamJamJam


    whadabouchasir wrote: »
    If it was in your CAO accont that they were posted then i'd say it was more than likely a screw up by th CAO.I remember when I got my results 2 years ago the CAO accidently put up the scores you got in each section by mistake and then had to take them down.ACER sent you an email with a link to view your results.

    Do you remember if the results they posted for each section added up to your real total result? If they didn't, then maybe it was a test file the other day! I'm sort of clutching at straws here, but wouldn't it be great...

    (Great in an entirely selfish sense, because I personally wasn't totally happy with the result posted :-P)


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    #645
    harmo08
    Registered Users Posts: 33 ✭harmo08


    JamJamJamJam wrote: »
    Do you remember if the results they posted for each section added up to your real total result? If they didn't, then maybe it was a test file the other day! I'm sort of clutching at straws here, but wouldn't it be great...

    (Great in an entirely selfish sense, because I personally wasn't totally happy with the result posted :-P)

    yes, mine added up from each section, and i it was better than my last years results but i still wasn't happy with it :/


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    #646
    kellogscoffey
    Registered Users Posts: 145 ✭✭kellogscoffey


    Yeah i think my individual scores added up too!

    has anyone alerted the media to this scoop? :P

    Maybe it's just my biased view, but I consider it newsworthy....


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    #647
    whadabouchasir
    Registered Users Posts: 942 ✭✭✭whadabouchasir


    JamJamJamJam wrote: »
    Do you remember if the results they posted for each section added up to your real total result? If they didn't, then maybe it was a test file the other day! I'm sort of clutching at straws here, but wouldn't it be great...

    (Great in an entirely selfish sense, because I personally wasn't totally happy with the result posted :-P)
    I remeber a few people were saying that their scores didn't add up,this was because they just rounded off the scores for the individual sectons but kept all the decimals when calculating the final score(or that was the theory anyway).I don't buy this test run story.I mean this is the 3rd year that they're doin this why would they need to do a test,also as I've said earlier when you actually do get your results it's by email.


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    #648
    kellogscoffey
    Registered Users Posts: 145 ✭✭kellogscoffey


    whadabouchasir wrote: »
    I don't buy this test run story.I mean this is the 3rd year that they're doin this why would they need to do a test,also as I've said earlier when you actually do get your results it's by email.

    Yeah I kinda agree. I don't understand what they're testing. Although the fact the results appeared differently on the account to the normal format they are shown in changes things slightly.

    Unless that was their test, to change the format of how it appears.

    Which'd be a pretty lame test :pac:


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    #649
    QueenOfLeon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,109 ✭✭✭QueenOfLeon


    whadabouchasir wrote: »
    No they're not meant to give you your results for each section,just your overall score and your overall percentile.

    That was the original format, that was the first way I saw my results on the CAO form in 2009. But because of some having to be rounded up, most people's accumulated results added up to 1 point more than the total result they were given. They got so many worried calls at the time that they just took them down.

    Did they only go up on Friday or is that just when it was noticed? Do ye check your CAO forms every day? :P Maybe they made a mistake and threw them up on the 27th of April instead of June...:P


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    #650
    figiii
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14 ✭figiii


    whadabouchasir wrote: »
    No they're not meant to give you your results for each section,just your overall score and your overall percentile.

    you definitely get your result from every section and your total and your percentile


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    #651
    theowen
    Registered Users Posts: 1,744 ✭✭✭theowen


    Wait, so some people just wandered onto their CAOs and there was a HPAT score there or what's the craic? That'd give ye a heart attack sure :p Were they good results out of interest they put up (Could have led to a momentary happiness/depression...).


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    #652
    whadabouchasir
    Registered Users Posts: 942 ✭✭✭whadabouchasir


    figiii wrote: »
    you definitely get your result from every section and your total and your percentile
    It used to be the case that they just gave you your overall score and din't give you the individual sections at all,maybe they changed it though,but i doubt it I'd say it was just a scew up by the CAO.I don't even think you're supposed to get the results on the CAO website.I got aan email with a link in it for mine.


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    #653
    k.stewart
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40 ✭k.stewart


    goosey93 wrote: »
    The Hpat scores are up on the cao website if you log in. My hopes of medicine are gone now unless i get 600 points :(:P

    Arghh I never got to see mine :(

    Saw this too late..
    I'd say that they were real scores, and they're just trying to cover it up. :/

    But hopefully for you they weren't real and the CAO peoples are telling the truth. :)


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    #654
    kellogscoffey
    Registered Users Posts: 145 ✭✭kellogscoffey


    "
    Dear Sir/ Madam,

    As a Leaving Certificate student who has applied for medicine, I deem it necessary to draw attention to the current situation affecting medicine applicants. Approximately 3000 students sat the HPAT aptitude test last February, which is compulsory for all medicine applicants and worth a potential 300 points out of a total of 860 (the other 560 being made up of Leaving Cert points, with 20% weighting for every 10 points earned after 550 LC points). We are due to receive these results in June after the exams, and these will largely dictate our chances of receiving an offer in a medicine course. Last Friday, HPAT results appeared on students' CAO accounts, my own included, over one month prematurely. This naturally prompted a frenzy of activity online, and the results were removed several hours later. Students who contacted the CAO were informed the results were "a test;" however no prior nor subsequent communication has taken place between the CAO and all students concerned. Currently, some students have seen their "results" while others have not and noone can verify them. I therefore call on the CAO to clarify the situation immediately, and to do all they can to remedy the problem, which is undoubtedly causing unnecessary worry to students.

    Yours etc,
    "

    Well, SOMEONE had to be a dryballs about it and tell the media :pac:


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    #655
    MedMan101
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35 ✭MedMan101


    Not bad Kellogscoffey! :cool:

    Maybe they'll be forced to release them early now! :rolleyes:
    Dono if thats a good thing or a bad thing?!:P


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    #656
    Jaafa
    Registered Users Posts: 2,621 ✭✭✭Jaafa


    Well said. Are you sending that out to anyone?


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    #657
    figiii
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14 ✭figiii


    whadabouchasir wrote: »
    It used to be the case that they just gave you your overall score and din't give you the individual sections at all,maybe they changed it though,but i doubt it I'd say it was just a scew up by the CAO.I don't even think you're supposed to get the results on the CAO website.I got aan email with a link in it for mine.

    yeah i got mine by email from acer aswel but theyre slapped up on your cao aswel as far as i remember! could be wrong!


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    #658
    kellogscoffey
    Registered Users Posts: 145 ✭✭kellogscoffey


    Jaafa wrote: »
    Well said. Are you sending that out to anyone?

    Yup, sent it to the Times, Independent and Examiner. Not that I'm envisaging a vast swell of public outrage at the outrageous mistreatment of us poor vulnerable students :P But its good to do something anyway :)


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    #659
    partyatmygaff
    Registered Users Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    ACER have replied to my email after three days.
    Dear ____,

    HPAT – Ireland results will be released at the end of June 2011.


    Regards
    The HPAT – Ireland Team
    ACER

    A helpful reply, non?


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    #660
    Jaafa
    Registered Users Posts: 2,621 ✭✭✭Jaafa


    kellogscoffey wrote: »
    Yup, sent it to the Times, Independent and Examiner. Not that I'm envisaging a vast swell of public outrage at the outrageous mistreatment of us poor vulnerable students :P But its good to do something anyway :)

    Fair play to ya.Hopefully we'll get a response. Especially so close to the LC now,they'll be plenty of articles on education going around.


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    #661
    JamJamJamJam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭JamJamJamJam


    partyatmygaff wrote: »
    ACER have replied to my email after three days.



    A helpful reply, non?

    I got the same reply from them, word for word! So I asked them again, saying I was still unclear. They gave a similar answer, but added that since Acer and the CAO are separate entities, I should contact the CAO about my query.


    Thanks for being sooo helpful, Acer...


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