New Mods!!!

bonkey

I see yekahs and The Recliner are showing up as mods of the forum. What's that about?

Only joking....I know what its about.

Myself and humanji have been discussing increasing the team-size over the past while...and finally got around to doing something about it.

Please welcome them to the team, (and give them a chance before hanging them on high )

As we've done with previous team-changes, we'll use this as a chance to review the charter and how things are done around here in general. I see the Feedback thread has been acticve recently, so we'll take all you've had to say on board. Feel free to continue giving thoughts on where we could go / what we could try to improve things.

demonspawn

Are you fuking serious? This is a joke right? One of the biggest skeptics/deniers on these forums is now a mod? Well, I think I'm just about done posting here. Good luck. Now I know this site is run by Freemasons. I start posting threads and stuff exposing them and all of a sudden a wannabe Freemason is a mod. Worst conspiracy ever, I'm outta here.

Soveriegn

lmfao jaysus :rolleyes:

pablo_escobar

haha

why not give the job to Di0genes and alastair instead? they'd make great mods.

demonspawn

I just posted a thread in feedback. I welcome all CTers on this forum to express their feelings about our new "moderator" there.

Myrddin

demonspawn wrote: »

Worst conspiracy ever

But it supports your theory in some form does it not

I think it's near time, well done lads

demonspawn

demonspawn wrote: »

Are you fuking serious? This is a joke right? One of the biggest skeptics/deniers on these forums is now a mod? Well, I think I'm just about done posting here. Good luck. Now I know this site is run by Freemasons. I start posting threads and stuff exposing them and all of a sudden a wannabe Freemason is a mod. Worst conspiracy ever, I'm outta here.

Have you completely lost the plot or is this a joke?

demonspawn

EnterNow wrote: »

But it supports your theory in some form does it not

I think it's near time, well done lads

Supports my theory? I bloody well confirms it to be honest. Absolute fuking disgrace.

gizmo

You also accused me of being a Freemason though so I think your CT-meter may be a little off...:pac:

demonspawn

bluewolf wrote: »

Have you completely lost the plot or is this a joke?

Yeah, I've lost the plot. I honestly can't believe they'd be so stupid as to show their hand like this. They must obviously think we're all complete idiots. Well, they're in for a rude awakening.

demonspawn

demonspawn wrote: »

Yeah, I've lost the plot. I honestly can't believe they'd be so stupid as to show their hand like this. They must obviously think we're all complete idiots. Well, they're in for a rude awakening.

Well at least you admit you're crazy in the head

demonspawn

bluewolf wrote: »

Well at least you admit you're crazy in the head

Yeah, a wannabe Freemason has just been appointed as mod of this forum and I'm just making it all up in my head. The owner of this site is suspected of being a Freemason. I'm fuking bonkers alright.

Myrddin

demonspawn wrote: »

Well, they're in for a rude awakening.

By you not posting here anymore? Am I a Freemason too?

demonspawn

demonspawn wrote: »

I'm fuking bonkers alright.

Admitting is the first step to recovery !

My name is URL

demonspawn wrote: »

Are you fuking serious? This is a joke right? One of the biggest skeptics/deniers on these forums is now a mod? Well, I think I'm just about done posting here. Good luck. Now I know this site is run by Freemasons. I start posting threads and stuff exposing them and all of a sudden a wannabe Freemason is a mod. Worst conspiracy ever, I'm outta here.

That's completely unfair. yekahs is by no means one of the biggest skeptics here.. he's always shown an open mind towards theories. You can't label everyone that doesn't agree with everything you believe to be true as a skeptic.. the same goes for the opposite.

Well done guys.. hopefully you can improve the place.. not gonna be easy by the looks of it!

pablo_escobar

Someone who openly admits a desire to join the freemasons will now moderate a CT forum objectively without any bias whatsoever?

The equivilant would be letting a Fianna Fail party member moderate the politics forum.

Why not just close the CT forum?

Yitzhak Rabin

Hi Demonspawn,

Sorry to hear you didn't like the decision to make me a mod. But its really irrelevant what side of the spectrum you come from when it comes to being a mod. All you have to have is an ability to enforce the charter, regardless of who is breaking the rules.

I feel that I am objective in this regard. If you could see my reported post history, you would see that I have reported far far more posts from sceptics than proponents of CTs.

Also, you say I am not open to any CTs. This is simply not true. I have started threads which I put forward CTs. I have changed my viewpoints on a number of issues since I began posting here.

As for the freemason thing. I have been completely upfront about everything there. I have let the members of this forum know of my intentions before my family!!

You are entitled to your opinion, but all I can do is say, that I will aim to be completely objective in any mod decision I have to make, and I look forward to continuing to post on this forum and explore all the CTs I am interested in.

Yitzhak Rabin

My name is URL wrote: »

That's completely unfair. yekahs is by no means one of the biggest skeptics here.. he's always shown an open mind towards theories. You can't label everyone that doesn't agree with everything you believe to be true as a skeptic.. the same goes for the opposite.

Well done guys.. hopefully you can improve the place.. not gonna be easy by the looks of it!

Thanks very much MNiURL, means a lot!

demonspawn

yekahs wrote: »

Hi Demonspawn,

Sorry to hear you didn't like the decision to make me a mod. But its really irrelevant what side of the spectrum you come from when it comes to being a mod. All you have to have is an ability to enforce the charter, regardless of who is breaking the rules.

I feel that I am objective in this regard. If you could see my reported post history, you would see that I have reported far far more posts from sceptics than proponents of CTs.

Also, you say I am not open to any CTs. This is simply not true. I have started threads which I put forward CTs. I have changed my viewpoints on a number of issues since I began posting here.

As for the freemason thing. I have been completely upfront about everything there. I have let the members of this forum know of my intentions before my family!!

You are entitled to your opinion, but all I can do is say, that I will aim to be completely objective in any mod decision I have to make, and I look forward to continuing to post on this forum and explore all the CTs I am interested in.

Great. Well, seeing as you're a mod now how about you enforce this.

Go fuk yourself and fuk this forum. Now ban me and go fuk yourself again.

Myrddin

Back with a vengence baby...oh the irony. Bumpiest welcome thread I've ever seen!

pablo_escobar

yekahs, are you member of freemasons now?

Yitzhak Rabin

pablo_escobar wrote: »

Someone who openly admits a desire to join the freemasons will now moderate a CT forum objectively without any bias whatsoever?

The equivilant would be letting a Fianna Fail party member moderate the politics forum.

Why not just close the CT forum?

Not really. I have been posting here long before I ever expressed any interest in the masons. In fact half of the reason I have enquired to join is from reading about them here and wanting to find out for myself.

Surely, having someone "on the inside" could only help the CT forum, as I can answer any questions anyone has about the masons.

I have always been honest on this forum. I was under absolutely no obligation to let anyone know I was joining the masons, but I did anyway.

But just to reiterate. All I will be doing, is to continue to post as I always have, and occasionally put on the mod hat, if I have to deal with a breach of the rules.

pablo_escobar wrote: »

yekahs, are you member of freemasons now?

No

Yitzhak Rabin

demonspawn wrote: »

Great. Well, seeing as you're a mod now how about you enforce this.

Go fuk yourself and fuk this forum. Now ban me and go fuk yourself again.

Demonspawn, I have no ill intentions towards you, but you have left me with little choice.

I don't want want to get off on the wrong foot. Perhaps give me a chance before lambasting me with profanities?

I've given you an infraction. I think it is sad that my first action as a mod is to infract a fellow CT poster in my welcome thread.

uprising2

Oul shakey ain't the worst, I know a few here that would be far worse!

I thanked some post's by demonspawn coz they made me laugh, but shakey I think is fair and open minded, and I have noticed a slight change in his thinking.

While I despise the freemason's and all they stand for, he did openly admit it.

Just as I was about to post this I got a PM from shakey that I haven't yet read, maybe my first warning from him??:D.

And I do think that his desire to be a freemason may have prompted Devore to promote him, he gave him a chance instead of slitting his throat!!

Anyway we can still slag the funny hanshake club and expose it.

This post reminds me of the "Pipe's of Peace" video, but it's only a lull, back to the good fight now.

demonspawn

Let's see how objective yekahs is.

Here's his Youtube channel for those interested. An atheist Freemason? Yeah, pull the other one. The "Conformity" video in his video favorites is very interesting.

This place makes me sick. I'm surprised you didn't ban me for that post yekahs, doing your best to be seen to be objective I see. People on this forum are not stupid. If you think they are then that's just fine. Makes our job so much easier.

nullzero

bonkey wrote: »

I see yekahs and The Recliner are showing up as mods of the forum. What's that about?

Only joking....I know what its about.

Myself and humanji have been discussing increasing the team-size over the past while...and finally got around to doing something about it.

Please welcome them to the team, (and give them a chance before hanging them on high )

As we've done with previous team-changes, we'll use this as a chance to review the charter and how things are done around here in general. I see the Feedback thread has been acticve recently, so we'll take all you've had to say on board. Feel free to continue giving thoughts on where we could go / what we could try to improve things.

To be honest I'm not too surprised, there's never been any real balance here and so it continues.
Yekahs has a half decent record on the forum but I've also seen him praising some posters who are openly abusive to others on a regular basis.

Ther activity on the feedback thread has been for an increase in enforcement of the rules especially with regard to how people treat each other and the lack of respect being shown from one side to the other.
I made these points myself and was told that enforcing the rules in a manner I would think should be seen as "properly" is too much of a hassle thus perpetuating the problems on the forum.

If things change for the better I'll be happy, but I'm yet to be convinced that this will be the case. Feel free to prove me wrong.

We need to take the 9-11 (and related topics) superthread idea seriously, the forum is full of identical threads full of the same tired arguments.
We need to be punishing people (from either side) who continuosly abuse others (even after being banned), if you can't treat people with respect you should be perma banned (we've already seen two CTer's recieve this punishment recently).
Full and equal implementation of the rules is required in order for the forum to be taken seriously.
I'm often told that I only complain about the misdeeds of sceptics, but when you look at what goes on CTer's get banned for acting the way sceptics are allowed to act.
If you want open and balanced discussion you need to have a level playing field, currently that isn't the case.

Best of luck to the new mod's in correcting these problems.

And Yekahs, I don't want a "mutual mastubation forum" as you put it to me recently, I just want a fair level playing field as outlined above.

pablo_escobar

I thought you were member because of the FM logo in your signature.

Yeah, it would be interesting to have someone on the inside but if you're made a member, you swear an oath of secrecy, correct?

If that's true, i'm not sure what questions you'd be able to answer.

I know some FM members (not personally) and they're usually all people with some kind of power or influence.

Do you have power or influence?
If you don't, it's unlikely they'll invite you to join.

demonspawn

demonspawn wrote: »

Let's see how objective yekahs is.


This place makes me sick.

Why are you still here then? Why do you think being abusive is going to get anyone to listen to you?

demonspawn

pablo_escobar wrote: »

I thought you were member because of the FM logo in your signature.

Yeah, it would be interesting to have someone on the inside but if you're made a member, you swear an oath of secrecy, correct?

If that's true, i'm not sure what questions you'd be able to answer.

I know some FM members (not personally) and they're usually all people with some kind of power or influence.

Do you have power or influence?
If you don't, it's unlikely they'll invite you to join.

His Youtube channel says he's an atheist. Atheists are never accepted into the Freemasons. He's a liar just like the rest of them.

demonspawn

bluewolf wrote: »

Why are you still here then?

To expose this guy as a liar and a fraud, just as I try to expose the Freemasons as liars and frauds.

alastair

pablo_escobar wrote: »

Someone who openly admits a desire to join the freemasons will now moderate a CT forum objectively without any bias whatsoever?

The equivilant would be letting a Fianna Fail party member moderate the politics forum.

Why not just close the CT forum?

If you don't like it - no one is demanding you to stay.

demonspawn

demonspawn wrote: »

To expose this guy as a liar and a fraud, just as I try to expose the Freemasons as liars and frauds.

What's he lying about?

pablo_escobar

Oh, it's you again...alastair *shudders*

Économiste Monétaire

I heard The Recliner is a member of the Freemasons. Probably because I saw him at our last meeting. That, and he mods the Economics forum, so you know he's in on the banking conspiracy.

\Stirs

nullzero

bluewolf wrote: »

Why do you think being abusive is going to get anyone to listen to you?

It works for the sceptics here.

King Mob

Seriously, funniest thread in ages.
And on 9/11 too? Nice.

Congrats Yehaks and other dude who I don't recognise.

The Recliner

Hello

It seems to have escaped some people's attention but I have also been made Mod

I don't post very often here but I do lurk a lot

I have seen mention above of the charter being implemented equally for both sides all I can say is that from my point of view is that it will

Abuse is abuse and I wont tolerate it no matter which side of the discussion it comes from

Having been around a while I am not afraid to ban people for misbehaving but hopefully I wont have to do to much of that if people can be civil to each other

alastair

nullzero wrote: »

I'm often told that I only complain about the misdeeds of sceptics, but when you look at what goes on CTer's get banned for acting the way sceptics are allowed to act.
If you want open and balanced discussion you need to have a level playing field, currently that isn't the case.

Those blinkers of yours are a great asset nullzero.

nullzero

alastair wrote: »

If you don't like it - no one is demanding you to stay.

The way things are going this forum will soon be a "CT debunking forum" only.
Do you want open discussion or do you prefer everyone agreeing with you?
Remember, if all the CTer's dissapear you won't have anyone left to insult, so think carefully.

Zaph

uprising2 wrote: »

And I do think that his desire to be a freemason may have prompted Devore to promote him, he gave him a chance instead of slitting his throat!!

Just so everyone is quite clear on this point - moderator appointments are made following a vote on the potential new mod by ALL admins. Whether DeV is or isn't a Freemason is irrelevant, he still has only one vote on the issue and can easily be outvoted by the rest of the admins.

The Recliner

demonspawn wrote: »

To expose this guy as a liar and a fraud, just as I try to expose the Freemasons as liars and frauds.

yekahs was very lenient with you earlier and well done to him for showing such restraint

I have no qualms whatsoever about banning you for good from this forum, your posts earlier deserve it

Push it again and you are not long for this forum

nullzero

alastair wrote: »

Those blinkers of yours are a great asset nullzero.

As are your's for you Alastair.

Not to mention your condscending attitude and your constant insulting of other members being a great asset to the forum at large.

gizmo

demonspawn wrote: »

I'm surprised you didn't ban me for that post yekahs, doing your best to be seen to be objective I see. People on this forum are not stupid. If you think they are then that's just fine. Makes our job so much easier.

So because he didn't ban you he's just trying to be subjective and if he did ban you he would have been showing his bias, right?

As for "people on this forum" a number of strong CTers have come out in support of the new mods so you clearly don't speak for everyone here. On that note I, for one, would like to welcome our new overlords. It doesn't seem like an easy job so props for taking on the responsibility!

nullzero

King Mob wrote: »

Congrats Yehaks and other dude who I don't recognise.

Yeah.
Who the fvck is the recliner anyway?:pac:

Soveriegn

9/11 was an inside job

Soveriegn

nullzero wrote: »

Yeah.
Who the fvck is the recliner anyway?:pac:

**** knows, he sounds comfortable tho :pac:

alastair

nullzero wrote: »

The way things are going this forum will soon be a "CT debunking forum" only.
Do you want open discussion or do you prefer everyone agreeing with you?
Remember, if all the CTer's dissapear you won't have anyone left to insult, so think carefully.

Pull the other one - it's got bells on.

If the various advocates of CT's can't support their perspective against facts, then the emphasis is going to be on the specifics of the, eh, reality.

For a bunch of people who notionally advocate an alternative perspective, you're awfully reticent to actually specify what you do believe.

My name is URL

demonspawn wrote: »

To expose this guy as a liar and a fraud, just as I try to expose the Freemasons as liars and frauds.

Your incessant cries of tyranny only damages the idea of CTs.

Here's one for you, maybe you're an Agent Provocateur who has been payed to post here erratically and aggressively in order to discredit anyone that might someday agree with something you might say.. see? It's easy to base an idea on some crap with little understanding of the person you're aiming it towards, and it doesn't mean that any of it is true. You should seriously calm down if you truly do believe the stuff you post, because otherwise nobody can take it seriously

Yitzhak Rabin

demonspawn wrote: »

To expose this guy as a liar and a fraud, just as I try to expose the Freemasons as liars and frauds.

Sigh.

Demonspawn, I think you should take a deep breath and relax.

Also, thank you for publishing my dormant youtube account from 2 years ago. I've had to go and delete the videos. If it was something I wanted to share with the forum I would have.

I openly admit to being an agnostic. I'm not an atheist. I summed up my religious beliefs in a post in the freemasons thread you took so much interest in.

yekahs wrote:

I don't really know what name I'd call it. Perhaps the creative force. Grand Architect wouldn't be a bad name either. Essentially my belief is that before there was the universe as we know it in its present form there was a 'creative force' that 13.7bn years or so ago, for whatever reason, changed to everything we see and experience today, including time and space itself.

I see this through the the beauty of the universe. Not a subjective awe inspiring beauty like when you look at the hubble deep space photos, but a beauty in the perfect mathematics of the universe. The fact that everything is just so. The ordered and rules based universe, is what leads me to believe there was an original creative entity, and that it is now everywhere. In every atom of the universe.

demonspawn

gizmo wrote: »

So because he didn't ban you he's just trying to be subjective and if he did ban you he would have been showing his bias, right?

As for "people on this forum" a number of strong CTers have come out in support of the new mods so you clearly don't speak for everyone here. On that note I, for one, would like to welcome our new overlords. It doesn't seem like an easy job so props for taking on the responsibility!

I've been banned for lesser infractions. Yekahs has to appear to be fair and objective for this illusion to work, just like he has to appear to be an atheist on his Youtube channel, so he can continue to spread his misinformation. Freemasons know their job and they do them pretty well. Fortunately, I also know what Freemasons do so the illusions fail on me. I practiced Solomon's rituals myself, I know what it's all about.

Jeboa Safari

Congratulations yekahs and The Recliner