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Croke Park residents to stage All-Ireland final protest

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  • 13-09-2010 3:18pm
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    Croke Park residents to stage All-Ireland final protest
    Angry residents in the vicinity of Croke Park will stage a protest convoy on the main Dublin-Cork Road on the morning of next Sunday's All-Ireland football final.


    The protest, which will start at 8am and will involve 60 vehicles travelling in convoy from Portlaoise back up to Croke Park, has the potential to inconvenience Cork fans travelling to the game.
    The protest is the latest move by residents who are furious with the GAA's plans to press head with the €9 million redevelopment of the handball and community centre beside Croke Park, despite their consistent objections. Local residents are reportedly dismayed that they will be losing a centre which they say has been a hub for the community for over 30 years and of which the GAA has acted as trustees.

    "We are not out to inconvenience the ordinary decent GAA person travelling to the game which is why we are letting people know in advance but we have been left with no other option," said Croke Park Streets Committee chairman Eamon O'Brien, who is a native of Tipperary.

    "You might ask why we are concentrating on the Cork road and not the Down (M1) one.”Well, the president of the GAA is from Cork and he has consistently ignored us. That is why."

    O'Brien added that the residents had been "treated like fools and trampled on".

    GAA spokesman Alan Milton responded to the residents' plans by saying: "At the end of the day, the GAA are making a €9m investment on this project and it will generate 150 jobs in the inner city if it gets the go-ahead.

    "Handball is a very important part of the association for us and one that offers us an international outlet and we are looking to bring the standard of the facilities in line with others around the country."


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  • Registered Users Posts: 38 bigSuzi12


    Bumble32 wrote: »
    Croke Park residents to stage All-Ireland final protest
    Angry residents in the vicinity of Croke Park will stage a protest convoy on the main Dublin-Cork Road on the morning of next Sunday's All-Ireland football final.


    The protest, which will start at 8am and will involve 60 vehicles travelling in convoy from Portlaoise back up to Croke Park, has the potential to inconvenience Cork fans travelling to the game.
    The protest is the latest move by residents who are furious with the GAA's plans to press head with the €9 million redevelopment of the handball and community centre beside Croke Park, despite their consistent objections. Local residents are reportedly dismayed that they will be losing a centre which they say has been a hub for the community for over 30 years and of which the GAA has acted as trustees.

    "We are not out to inconvenience the ordinary decent GAA person travelling to the game which is why we are letting people know in advance but we have been left with no other option," said Croke Park Streets Committee chairman Eamon O'Brien, who is a native of Tipperary.

    "You might ask why we are concentrating on the Cork road and not the Down (M1) one.”Well, the president of the GAA is from Cork and he has consistently ignored us. That is why."

    O'Brien added that the residents had been "treated like fools and trampled on".

    GAA spokesman Alan Milton responded to the residents' plans by saying: "At the end of the day, the GAA are making a €9m investment on this project and it will generate 150 jobs in the inner city if it gets the go-ahead.

    "Handball is a very important part of the association for us and one that offers us an international outlet and we are looking to bring the standard of the facilities in line with others around the country."


    I can't see how this will win them any favour with the GAA, it doesn't affect the GAA, tickets are already paid for, all it serves to do is just piss off Cork fans. What a well thought out protest.....


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,945 ✭✭✭D-Generate


    I presume every resident protesting purchased their house after 1913 so the question remains, "How the **** did you not know you were buying next to a gigantic stadium!?!?". Its like buying a house next to a municipal dump and then requesting they close the dump!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    So the protest is over the closure of the handball alley?
    What are they turning it into after the €9 million investment?

    Normally investing in local services is welcomed by resident groups.
    I've read that article a few times and it's doesn't give much information at all


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,430 ✭✭✭run_Forrest_run


    they are whinging and moaning just because they can. The same reason why they were moaning when U2 were performing there and when the GAA were performing re-surfacing works on the pitch during the night etc...listen, they want money, end of.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 269 ✭✭themonboys


    "You might ask why we are concentrating on the Cork road and not the Down (M1) one.”Well, the president of the GAA is from Cork and he has consistently ignored us. That is why."

    Brian Cowen has run the country into the ground and consistently ignores us, lets all go and protest at the Birr Festival.:rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 msgoldiegoldie


    if they are not out to inconvenience the "ordinary decent GAA person" who exactly are they out to inconvenience by this??? Its the ordinary decent gaa person that will be travelling up to Croke Park on Sunday. Do they honestly think that the President will be delayed travelling up on Sunday because of their protest? Does the fact that their chairman is a Tipp native give us the answer as to why they didn't stage their protest for the Hurling Final?.... yes I'm ranting!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 kev6319


    Back in the early 1970's the Department of Education gave a Grant to the Local Handball Club for a Club & Community Center to be built as did the BoI & AiB & others the GAA also gave money for the Center to be built. As did the Local Community.(Now Like All other GAA Clubs, the GAA are Vested in it ) as they gave money.
    Now having said that the GAA, would "help pay for the upkeep and running of said club" esb, insurance, ect,ect,.Well not so here.The GAA stopped funding the center back in the 1980's the only funding came from the local clubs and the community handball Centre Function Room.
    Now the GAA want to take the community center away from the Very Community that it was built for in the first place.
    So if the GAA are vested in ANY CLUB or Community Center Look Out it could be your's next. The GAA are have used every dirty trick in the book on this Handball Centre & Community Center. The problem began for the Centre in the period August 2003 to March 2004. When the Club went begging for a Lotto Grant. The GAA refused to give permission to spend a lottery grant of €150,000 on re-furbishing the centre. In September 2004, the G.A.A. called in the Fire Officer to inspect the Centre. The fire officer gave the centre 3 days to put in new fire alarms, emergency lighting, fire doors etc. They the club managed to get all this work done in time for the 2004 All-Ireland Handball finals. Do the GAA want to damage our National Sport of Handball ?. Or do they just want more Office space to rent out .The G.A.A. Have not put Money into the center since the late 1980's.
    Objected in court to the licence renewal stating that as Vested Owners of the property they were entitled to do so. The centre needs a bar to keep funding itself and pay the ESB & Insurance.
    They the GAA also informed the Judge during these proceedings that they would not permit the spending of the lottery grant of €150,000. They did however have the money's to pay for a Barrister at law to tell the Judge the of their objections. The court did renew the licence. Now do you think that's fair play on any Local Club & Community Center.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    kev6319 wrote: »
    Back in the early 1970's the Department of Education gave a Grant to the Local Handball Club for a Club & Community Center to be built as did the BoI & AiB & others the GAA also gave money for the Center to be built. As did the Local Community.(Now Like All other GAA Clubs, the GAA are Vested in it ) as they gave money.
    Now having said that the GAA, would "help pay for the upkeep and running of said club" esb, insurance, ect,ect,.Well not so here.The GAA stopped funding the center back in the 1980's the only funding came from the local clubs and the community handball Centre Function Room.
    Now the GAA want to take the community center away from the Very Community that it was built for in the first place.
    So if the GAA are vested in ANY CLUB or Community Center Look Out it could be your's next. The GAA are have used every dirty trick in the book on this Handball Centre & Community Center. The problem began for the Centre in the period August 2003 to March 2004. When the Club went begging for a Lotto Grant. The GAA refused to give permission to spend a lottery grant of €150,000 on re-furbishing the centre. In September 2004, the G.A.A. called in the Fire Officer to inspect the Centre. The fire officer gave the centre 3 days to put in new fire alarms, emergency lighting, fire doors etc. They the club managed to get all this work done in time for the 2004 All-Ireland Handball finals. Do the GAA want to damage our National Sport of Handball ?. Or do they just want more Office space to rent out .The G.A.A. Have not put Money into the center since the late 1980's.
    Objected in court to the licence renewal stating that as Vested Owners of the property they were entitled to do so. The centre needs a bar to keep funding itself and pay the ESB & Insurance.
    They the GAA also informed the Judge during these proceedings that they would not permit the spending of the lottery grant of €150,000. They did however have the money's to pay for a Barrister at law to tell the Judge the of their objections. The court did renew the licence. Now do you think that's fair play on any Local Club & Community Center.

    ...what the ****ing christ has any of this got to do with the Cork GAA supporters going up to the All-Ireland Football Final? Why are we the ones who deserve to be punished?

    What utter nonsense. And no, I don't care about Christy Cooney, I certainly didn't vote that amadan in as GAA president.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Really now, how long could it possibly take the Gardaí to just pull over and arrest them all for causing an obstruction or whatever else they can find?


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,037 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    They're not causing an obstruction if they're moving...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    They're not causing an obstruction if they're moving...

    Merriam-Webster disagrees with you funnily enough.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,037 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    : 1: to block or close up by an obstacle
    2: to hinder from passage, action, or operation

    If the traffic is moving it's not blocking the flow of traffic, and it's not hindering it either as otherwise every car on the main Dublin motorway during rush hour could be ticketed for obstruction...


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭trotter_inc


    What's the latest on this? Is the protest still planning on going ahead?


  • Registered Users Posts: 708 ✭✭✭A320


    hopefully a garda checkpoint before they leave dublin will scrutinise everything,tyres,nct,tax,alcohol everything! could be a moneyspinner for them!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 269 ✭✭themonboys


    I know 2 people who are flying out to the State from Dublin Airport on Sunday. Now they have nothing to do with the GAA or the match but could still potentially get caught up in this and may even miss their flights in a worst case scenario. They are left with no other choice but to leave another couple of hours earlier to be sure they make it on time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,109 ✭✭✭Cavehill Red


    amacachi wrote: »
    Really now, how long could it possibly take the Gardaí to just pull over and arrest them all for causing an obstruction or whatever else they can find?

    Maybe the Gardai could begin by arresting the scumbag GAA 'fans' who come up and trash Drumcondra after every match, destroying local property, exposing themselves, publicly defacating and generally behaving like animals.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭trotter_inc


    Maybe the Gardai could begin by arresting the scumbag GAA 'fans' who come up and trash Drumcondra after every match, destroying local property, exposing themselves, publicly defacating and generally behaving like animals.

    This has absolutely nothing to do with the protest, let's keep to the item being discussed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,109 ✭✭✭Cavehill Red


    The residents are engaging in a perfectly legal protest. The GAA 'fans' who trash Drumcondra are behaving illegally. Surely it is more relevant for Gardai to deal with the ILLEGAL behaviour rather than, as was suggested, interfering with a legitimate protest.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭trotter_inc


    The residents are engaging in a perfectly legal protest. The GAA 'fans' who trash Drumcondra are behaving illegally. Surely it is more relevant for Gardai to deal with the ILLEGAL behaviour rather than, as was suggested, interfering with a legitimate protest.

    Their protest is nothing to do with the behaviour of the fans, their protest is against the GAA redeveloping a hand-ball alley!! Do your research :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,109 ✭✭✭Cavehill Red


    Their protest is nothing to do with the behaviour of the fans, their protest is against the GAA redeveloping a hand-ball alley!! Do your research :D

    Er, I know what the protest is about. I've attended the residents' meetings in relation to it.
    My point is that the suggestion that Gardai arrest law-abiding protestors is ridiculous, especially in light of the fact that they fail to arrest law-breaking GAA 'fans' who engage in anti-social behaviour every time there is a big match in Drumcondra.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 518 ✭✭✭JeanClaude


    "We are not out to inconvenience the ordinary decent GAA person travelling to the game which is why we are letting people know in advance but we have been left with no other option," said Croke Park Streets Committee chairman Eamon O'Brien, who is a native of Tipperary.

    "You might ask why we are concentrating on the Cork road and not the Down (M1) one.”Well, the president of the GAA is from Cork and he has consistently ignored us. That is why."

    Yeah right, biggest load of BS I've ever heard, why didn't he do it when his native Tipperary were playing the Hurling final...:mad:


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,721 ✭✭✭Kells...


    Dont Mind them Most of them dont even live near croker My house is basically in the cusack stand car park the leaders a bleadin looper


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭bladebrew


    Er, I know what the protest is about. I've attended the residents' meetings in relation to it.
    My point is that the suggestion that Gardai arrest law-abiding protestors is ridiculous, especially in light of the fact that they fail to arrest law-breaking GAA 'fans' who engage in anti-social behaviour every time there is a big match in Drumcondra.

    if they were planning to block both lanes of the motorway then they are breaking the law, the right lane is for overtaking only, and as mentioned over in motors you can get pulled over and get a penaltly point for it, im not sure what speed they were planning on driving at though,

    the gaa have there 80,000 tickets sold, the locals were planning to block a motorway then realised the public might not like that,
    protest called off, brilliiant,

    i didnt realise that handball was so popular:confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 269 ✭✭themonboys


    Any update on this? Sill going ahead?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    themonboys wrote: »
    Any update on this? Sill going ahead?

    No its cancelled


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 269 ✭✭themonboys


    -Corkie- wrote: »
    No its cancelled

    Great news, glad they seen sense. I'd be happy to support them in the future after this.


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