"The Origin of Specious Nonsense"

Zombrex

dead one wrote: »

Yes off course. God is also a theory according to many people and also evolution is theory. You believe in evolution but not in God.

Umm, still not sure you quite understand what these terms mean in the scientific sense.

"God", if such a being exists, is not a theory, he is a phenomena. Theories explain, through conceptual, prediction based models, a phenomena. The theory of evolution explains life on Earth (the phenomena). The theory of gravity explains the phenomena of things being attracted to other things based on their mass.

"God exists and is X" could be a theory if it was possible to test such a theory using the scientific method, which includes falsifibility (it is possible to run a test that should produce a particular result if God doesn't in fact exist).

But because it is not testable it is not considered a scientific theory. Science has no use for guesses and at the moment God exists is just that, a guess. It might be a guess people are very confident is true but science disregards personal confidence in something because humans more often than not can't tell if their personal assessment is accurate or simply wrong.

dead one wrote: »

Evolution denies the need for a God to be involved in the universe.

Who said there was ever a need for God to be involved in the universe in the first place?

Mark Hamill

dead one wrote: »

Yes off course. God is also a theory according to many people and also evolution is theory. You believe in evolution but not in God.

God is not a theory, god is not testable and it doesn't truly account for all the evidence.

dead one wrote: »

Evolution denies the need for a God to be involved in the universe. Evolution is the “creation theory” for the religion of atheism. That's why you are supporting it.

I already covered this. Evolution doesn't have anything to do with the creation of life, thats abiogenesis. Evolution only accounts for the variation of life. Evolution doesn't necessarily deny god (only the ones that specifically deny evolution) and atheism is not a religion. I support evolution because it best explains the evidence. Its always in my best interest to accept the truth, whether or not it seems to support atheism. Evolution can be true and god could still exist, and evolution could be false and god could still be false, its not a dichotomy.

dead one wrote: »

But it is very fact that evolution is just theory which has no evidence. isn't it [SIZE=+1]Circular Reasoning – supporting a premise with the premise rather than a conclusion. I remember once u said about circular argument.[/SIZE]

We have explained the evidence several times, read it again.

Ghost Buster

J C wrote: »

... so what have we got here? ... a bunch of Satanists masquerading as 'Atheists'???

... so that's why you guys regularly visit the Christianity Forum ... and take more of an interest in Christianity ... than many Christians themselves do???

Youre very quick to jump to a conclusion and then have faithin it...
But we've known that for a whileen:P

Ghost Buster

J C wrote: »

Thank you ... no more spells for tonight or any other night!!!
... and please remember that every knee shall bend and every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.

Yippeeee I know that one from my time strumming acoustic at folk masses!!!
Every body... two, three, four
HE IS LORD, HE IS LORD
HE IS RISEN FROM THE DEAD AND HE IS LORD
EVERY KNEE SHALL BOW, EVERY TOUNGE CONFESS
THAT JESUS CHRIST IS LORD

get out those tamborines now!!!

strobe

dead one wrote: »

Yes off course. God is also a theory according to many people and also evolution is theory. You believe in evolution but not in God.

Oh sweet holy moses there is two of them.........




Ok kids, own up. Who has been feeding JC after midnight and who got him wet?

Mark Hamill

strobe wrote: »

Oh sweet holy moses there is two of them.........




Ok kids, own up. Who has been feeding JC after midnight and who got him wet?

All they have to do is to eat three or four children and there'd be the most appalling publicity. :pac:

coffee_cake

This thread merge?
Ugh, I give up, I'm not arguing this with wilfully ignorant people telling lies any more

Zombrex

dead one
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JC
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Interesting ....

J C

AhSureTisGrand wrote: »

Understated? I'll try again then:

Why do you edit all of your posts?

No particular reason.

Why do you repeatedly ask irrelevant questions??

J C

bluewolf wrote: »

No, no, no, yes, no.

Try yes, yes, yes, yes, yes ...
... it will be correct ... and you will feel better afterwards!!!:)

... peace and love to you!!

J C

Wicknight wrote: »

dead one
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JC
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Interesting ....

... what a co-incidence ... my sixth anniversary!!!!:D

J C

bluewolf wrote: »

I would also like to add that even if evolution was shown tomorrow to be incorrect, this would still not be any evidence FOR a god.
It is not a case of:
no evolution -> therefore my god exists

more like-

no evolution -> ??? -> ??? -> therefore A god exists -> this god that exists is my specific god

-> and He is Jesus Christ !!!:).

King Mob

J C wrote: »

... what a co-incidence ... my sixth anniversary!!!!:D

Congrats.
That's a very very sad way to use 6 years of your life.

coffee_cake

King Mob wrote: »

Congrats.
That's a very very sad way to use 6 years of your life.

You're on 5 years!

King Mob

bluewolf wrote: »

You're on 5 years!

Yea, but I haven't been pretending to be a delusional creationist for all that time.

coffee_cake

King Mob wrote: »

Yea, but I having been pretending to be a delusional creationist for all that time.

you have? :eek:

King Mob

bluewolf wrote: »

you have? :eek:

Typo.
You'd think I would have learned how to type in 5 years...

J C

robindch wrote: »

I trust you're aware that "uncommondescent" is run by a fundamentalist christian?Yay! JC said this in the BCP thread over the fence years ago, but I was never able to find it.

... great minds think alike??:D

robindch wrote: »

Good to see christians and islamists doing the ecumenical thing!

I know many excellent Creation Scientists who are Muslims.

coffee_cake

King Mob wrote: »

Typo.
You'd think I would have learned how to type in 5 years...

I know, I just couldn't resist

legspin

J C wrote: »

I know many excellent Creation Scientists who are Muslims.

Given the levels of idiocy and bone-headed ignorance in islam that is hardly surprising.

J C

J C wrote: »

I know many excellent Creation Scientists who are Muslims.

No, you don't.

AhSureTisGrand

J C wrote: »

No particular reason.

Why do you repeatedly ask irrelevant questions??

Irrelevant like most of the stuff on this thread? I asked you because I was curious, if you must know

J C

Mark Hamill wrote: »

Your proof is nonsense. Macro evolution is the same as micro evolution, only the timescale is different (see this brilliant post from The Mad Hatter in a different thread...

... you forgot to link to my equally brilliant reply ... and it was all in this thread!!!:)

J C

Ghost Buster wrote: »

Youre very quick to jump to a conclusion and then have faithin it...
But we've known that for a whileen:P

I didn't jump to any conclusions ... the posters told me about themselves.

J C

Ghost Buster wrote: »

Yippeeee I know that one from my time strumming acoustic at folk masses!!!
Every body... two, three, four
HE IS LORD, HE IS LORD
HE IS RISEN FROM THE DEAD AND HE IS LORD
EVERY KNEE SHALL BOW, EVERY TOUNGE CONFESS
THAT JESUS CHRIST IS LORD

get out those tamborines now!!!

... this is the 'official' version:-

Philippians 2:9-11 (New International Version, ©2011)

9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place
and gave him the name that is above every name,
10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.

AhSureTisGrand

J C wrote: »

... moving gradually from something simple like from red to blue type isn't what is supposed to have happened with the abiogenesis and the evolution of life ...
... which is the equivalent of spontaneously producing a 30 million page encyclopedia (3 billion letters with 100 letters per page) ... with practically no typos ... and every article perfectly co-ordinated and cross-referenced with every other article!!!!

If you must, think of natural selection as a spell checker

J C

bluewolf wrote: »

This thread merge?
Ugh, I give up, I'm not arguing this with wilfully ignorant people telling lies any more

... maybe you should try posting on the BCP thread ... instead ... then !!!:D

J C

AhSureTisGrand wrote: »

If you must, think of natural selection as a spell checker

... an Intelligently Designed spell checker ... eh?!!!

AhSureTisGrand

J C wrote: »

... an Intelligently Designed spell checker ... OK!!!

If natural selection were designed by God then it would still be against your beliefs :S

Ghost Buster

J C wrote: »

... this is the 'official' version:-

Philippians 2:9-11 (New International Version, ©2011)

9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place
and gave him the name that is above every name,
10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.

Oh i heard that version in the YMCA in Dublin once. It was in a Minor key and a slightly scary looking guy in a mac whipped out a tambourine half way through and gave it loads.
Friend of yours?