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"The Origin of Specious Nonsense"

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    #3422
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    MrPudding wrote: »
    How can someone with no qualifications make a devastaing [sic] observation about something.

    Watch as I devastate quantum theory. Quantum theory is like, you know, not right. I think that is a few years time people will realise that it was wrong and people will look back and wonder how anyone could have been so stupid to believe it. Ha. Take that quantum theory and all you losers who have spent year getting qualifications in physics.
    All I will say to that attempt ... is you're no Malcolm Muggeridge!!!!:)


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    #3423
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,416 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    J C wrote: »
    All I will say to that attempt ... is you're no Malcolm Muggeridge!!!!:)
    Something of a compliment, I'd have thought.


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    #3424
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    strobe wrote: »
    It's more of an inherited role really, Arch-Priests are appointed. An-tē'-khrē-stos is the official title but we prefer to keep things a little more informal than that. You can just call me Strobe. Named after my Dad, it's a more modern version of a nickname he had back in the day.
    ... and does Evolutionism feature in your Luciferianism?

    ... and has Satan explained to you why he has fallen from God's grace?


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    #3425
    AhSureTisGrand
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,327 ✭✭✭AhSureTisGrand


    J C wrote: »
    ... and does Evolutionism feature in your Luciferianism?
    Yes. THEREFORE EVOLUTION IS WRONG


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    #3426
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    AhSureTisGrand wrote: »
    Yes. THEREFORE EVOLUTION IS WRONG
    So are you saying that Satan is telling you to believe in Evolution ... even though it doesn't exist?

    ... and has Satan admitted that he made a mistake by defying God?


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    #3427
    Pygmalion
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,082 ✭✭✭Pygmalion


    J C wrote: »
    ... and has Satan admitted that he made a mistake by defying God?

    Hey now, Satan never burnt a city to the ground, or slaughtered every first-born male child in a country due to the corruption of those in charge.

    I know which one I consider to have been in the wrong, Satan made a brave and noble choice in standing up to God.


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    #3428
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Pygmalion wrote: »
    Hey now, Satan never burnt a city to the ground, or slaughtered every first-born male child in a country due to the corruption of those in charge.

    I know which one I consider to have been in the wrong, Satan made a brave and noble choice in standing up to God.
    ... what is brave and nobel about defying your Creator?
    ... and does Satan still think he was right ... even though he was roundly defeated as a result?


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    #3429
    AhSureTisGrand
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,327 ✭✭✭AhSureTisGrand


    J C wrote: »
    ... even though he was roundly defeated as a result?

    That makes him something of a martyr


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    #3430
    Pygmalion
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,082 ✭✭✭Pygmalion


    J C wrote: »
    ... what is brave and nobel about defying your Creator?
    It takes both to have the courage to call out your own father on his abusive and violent behaviour.
    ... and does Satan still think he was right ... even though he was roundly defeated as a result?
    Being right and winning aren't always the same thing.
    I respect someone who is willing to stand up to a power greater than himself, even when the outcome is almost certainly going to be defeat.
    Much more respectable than someone going along with the leader out of fear of punishment or unwillingness to question the status quo; especially with full knowledge of genocide that the leader was responsible for.


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    #3431
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Pygmalion wrote: »
    Hey now, Satan never burnt a city to the ground, or slaughtered every first-born male child in a country due to the corruption of those in charge.
    People working under his orders have done these things ... and worse!!!


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    #3432
    Galvasean
    Registered Users Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    robindch wrote: »
    Do you think his dishonesty is acceptable?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihpxdZFV3Ck


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    #3433
    Pygmalion
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,082 ✭✭✭Pygmalion


    J C wrote: »
    People working under his orders have done these things ... and worse!!!

    Very debatable, I don't know of anyone claiming to be under orders from Lucifer who has burnt entire cities or murdered a significant proportion of a nation's children.
    This isn't one of those things you can just pretend is a fact because *hand waving and avoiding the question*, it's a very strong claim, one which could never have happened without strong records.

    But, as you don't deny yourself, and as your holy book claims, God himself did those things... and worse!!!
    Even if we did (for no reason) assume that people under orders from Lucifer did these things, it at most puts the two on equal footing (and that only works if you blame Lucifer for things other people did).


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    #3434
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Pygmalion wrote: »
    It takes both to have the courage to call out your own father on his abusive and violent behaviour.
    ... God loved Lucifer ... but he rebelled and tried to become God ... so his motives were a selfish 'power grab'!!!

    Pygmalion wrote: »
    Being right and winning aren't always the same thing.
    In Lucifer's case, he was both wrong and he lost.

    Pygmalion wrote: »
    I respect someone who is willing to stand up to a power greater than himself, even when the outcome is almost certainly going to be defeat.
    Much more respectable than someone going along with the leader out of fear of punishment or unwillingness to question the status quo; especially with full knowledge of genocide that the leader was responsible for.
    It depends on the motive ... when it is only to gain power at all costs I wouldn't respect such a motive.


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    #3435
    Galvasean
    Registered Users Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    J C wrote: »
    ... God loved Lucifer ... but he rebelled and tried to become God ... so his motives were a selfish 'power grab'!!!

    Hypothetically speaking, if Lucifer had somehow defeated God what would the world have ended up like?
    Would we have wars? Famine? Disease?
    Would Lucifer have flooded the world at some point killing over 99% of the world's population?


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    #3436
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Galvasean wrote: »
    Hypothetically speaking, if Lucifer had somehow defeated God what would the world have ended up like?
    Would we have wars? Famine? Disease?
    Would Lucifer have flooded the world at some point killing over 99% of the world's population?
    We have had all of these things because Satan hasn't accepted his defeat !!

    ... and we would have total hell on earth ... if God didn't keep him restrained!!!


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    #3437
    housetypeb
    Registered Users Posts: 1,192 ✭✭✭housetypeb


    J C wrote: »
    We have had all of these things because he hasn't accepted his defeat !!
    Go ahead-blame the victim.


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    #3438
    MrPudding
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    Pygmalion wrote: »
    I respect someone who is willing to stand up to a power greater than himself, even when the outcome is almost certainly going to be defeat.
    Yeah. Everyone loves a good David and Goliath story. :D

    MrP


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    #3439
    Zombrex
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    Galvasean wrote: »
    Hypothetically speaking, if Lucifer had somehow defeated God what would the world have ended up like?
    Would we have wars? Famine? Disease?
    Would Lucifer have flooded the world at some point killing over 99% of the world's population?

    Not sure Satan would be that evil...


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    #3440
    liamw
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,780 ✭✭✭liamw


    J C wrote: »
    We have had all of these things because Satan hasn't accepted his defeat !!

    ... and we would have had total hell on earth ... if he had somehow defeated God.

    Your knowledge has no boundaries does it? You should seriously go for a Nobel prize; you have the answers to things that the top scientists in the world can't figure out.


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    #3441
    Galvasean
    Registered Users Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    So... the devil invented plate tectonics? The fiend!


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    #3442
    Pygmalion
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,082 ✭✭✭Pygmalion


    Galvasean wrote: »
    So... the devil invented plate tectonics? The fiend!

    No, God did it because he failed to fully defeat the devil, and wanted to take it out on us, or something like that.


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    #3443
    liamw
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,780 ✭✭✭liamw


    Pygmalion wrote: »
    No, God did it because he failed to fully defeat the devil, and wanted to take it out on us, or something like that.

    This religious stuff is fun, you can just make up stuff and not have to provide any of that evidence nonsense to back it up. J.C I'm starting to see why you choose religion and creationism, it's nice and fluffy and easy on the brain.

    Creationism keeps reminding me of Teletubbies for some reason..

    kids_tele_po.jpg


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    #3444
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    housetypeb wrote: »
    Go ahead-blame the victim.
    Satan was a victim of his own folly!!!


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    #3445
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    MrPudding wrote: »
    Yeah. Everyone loves a good David and Goliath story. :D

    MrP
    In Lucifer's case, it was was simply pride!!!

    He made a mistake of epic proportions ... and he knows it!!!!


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    #3446
    Galvasean
    Registered Users Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Does he?


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    #3447
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Galvasean wrote: »
    Does he?
    The Holy Spirit is telling me Yes


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    #3448
    Galvasean
    Registered Users Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Really?


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    #3449
    Galvasean
    Registered Users Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    I mean like seriously?


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    #3450
    Zombrex
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,848 ✭✭✭✭Zombrex


    J C wrote: »
    Colin was speaking about Evolution ... and the question he asked other Evolutionists was about Evolution.

    No he wasn't, as he said himself.
    J C wrote: »
    I once met Colin at an international science conference and I found him to be a man of exceptional ability and we are all the very much the poorer for his passing.

    Which international science conference? :rolleyes:
    J C wrote: »
    Colin got into a lot of 'hot water' over this comment ...

    The only people who got in hot water were the Creationists who secretly recorded his talk without his permission and then proceeded misquoted him.


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    #3451
    Zombrex
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    thebhoy wrote: »
    If this much tripe can be written in 4 small paragraphs by 1 christian given a few minutes.

    JC isn't a Christian, he just pretends to be one for kicks. Like he pretends to go to "international science conferences" :rolleyes:


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