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"The Origin of Specious Nonsense"

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    #3632
    sponsoredwalk
    Registered Users Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭sponsoredwalk


    The Mad Hatter wrote: »
    Or Genesis Chapter 2 Verse 7:

    And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and
    breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became
    a living soul.

    Ah so Eve came from the rib of dust man that appeared around 80,000
    years after she did, it all makes sense now. But since babies come
    from storks, and Eve came before Adam while coming after Adam,
    where did the stork that brought the first appearance of Eve come
    from? Was there a first stork to do this? Did the rib time travel?
    Is Adam the first stork?


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    #3633
    sponsoredwalk
    Registered Users Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭sponsoredwalk


    I think we need to get Genesis Chapter 11, Verse 10 in here:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDd7UbJmdmw


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    #3634
    himnextdoor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭himnextdoor


    sponsoredwalk wrote: »
    Ah so Eve came from the rib of dust man that appeared around 80,000
    years after she did, it all makes sense now. But since babies come
    from storks, and Eve came before Adam while coming after Adam,
    where did the stork that brought the first appearance of Eve come
    from? Was there a first stork to do this? Did the rib time travel?
    Is Adam the first stork?

    Yes, Adam was the first stork but it's spelt 'stalk'.:eek:


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    #3635
    AhSureTisGrand
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,327 ✭✭✭AhSureTisGrand


    equivariant wrote: »
    This thread provides a valuable service to A&A - it allows people an easy view of just how utterly bonkers creationism is. I think that J C should be given some kind of special award for services to Irish atheism (it might compensate him a little for not having that nobel prize that he claims he deserves)

    I feel I owe a debt to Creationists as a whole. If they didn't kick up such a fuss about evolution, I wouldn't give a damn about it and I doubt I'd have a clue what it was about. Indeed, I might even reject it as "stupid". So yeah, thanks J C


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    #3636
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    wrote:
    Originally Posted by J C
    You are making the classical error of confusing a statistical correlation with a real one ... I suppose it is an occupational hazard for an evolutionist !!!
    ... anybody who believes that muck spontaneously produced man will believe anything!!!

    koth
    Isn't that creationism?? :P
    Creation was the intelligent design of life ... Materialistic Evolutionism studies the invisible powers of muck ... Creation science explores the visible powers of God!!!:)


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    #3637
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,416 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    J C wrote: »
    Creation science explores the visible powers of God
    Doesn't have much option since it can't study the visible god.


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    #3638
    Linoge
    Registered Users Posts: 1,790 ✭✭✭Linoge


    J C wrote: »
    ... Materialistic Evolutionism studies the invisible powers of muck ...

    I know you are trying to boost creationism and demean and belittle evoutionary theory by saying this, but do you realise how neanderthal like you sound every time you say it?


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    #3639
    himnextdoor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭himnextdoor


    J C wrote: »
    Creation was the intelligent design of life ... Materialistic Evolutionism studies the invisible powers of muck ... Creation science explores the visible powers of God!!!:)

    Are you saying that since the first moment of creation that existence has conformed to some divine plan?


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    #3640
    Galvasean
    Registered Users Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Linoge wrote: »
    I know you are trying to boost creationism and demean and belittle evoutionary theory by saying this, but do you realise how neanderthal like you sound every time you say it?

    Lay off the neanderthals! :mad:


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    #3641
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    equivariant wrote: »
    This thread provides a valuable service to A&A - it allows people an easy view of just how utterly bonkers creationism is. I think that J C should be given some kind of special award for services to Irish atheism (it might compensate him a little for not having that nobel prize that he claims he deserves)
    An Atheist proposing to spend money on a Creationist ... your generosity really is too good to be true ... and probably is!!!:)

    ... and the best service that I could offer the A & A is to Save you all.:D


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    #3642
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Galvasean wrote: »
    Lay off the neanderthals! :mad:
    ... Galvasean you really are a very sensitive guy ... or were these guys relatives of yours????:eek:


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    #3643
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    himnextdoor wrote: »
    Are you saying that since the first moment of creation that existence has conformed to some divine plan?
    A Divine Plan with free will built in ... which can and does thwart it ... temporarily!!!:)


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    #3644
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 51,778 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    J C wrote: »
    ... Galvasean you really are a very sensitive guy ... or were these guys relatives of yours????:eek:

    they were your relatives too;)

    If you can read this, you're too close!



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    #3645
    Genghiz Cohen
    Registered Users Posts: 7,182 ✭✭✭Genghiz Cohen


    J C wrote: »
    A Divine Plan with free will built in ... which can and does thwart it ... temporarily!!!:)

    So it's just any other plan then?


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    #3646
    himnextdoor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭himnextdoor


    J C wrote: »
    A Divine Plan with free will built in ... which can and does thwart it ... temporarily!!!:)

    So, this 'plan' is a series of steps each of which can produce unknown outcomes?


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    #3647
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Genghiz Cohen wrote: »
    So it's just any other plan then?
    Not quite ... it's God's plan for His interaction with Mankind.


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    #3648
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    himnextdoor wrote: »
    So, this 'plan' is a series of steps each of which can produce unknown outcomes?
    The outcomes are known to God ... but they have the capacity to vary, dependent on the exercise of free will by people.


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    #3649
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    AhSureTisGrand wrote: »
    I feel I owe a debt to Creationists as a whole. If they didn't kick up such a fuss about evolution, I wouldn't give a damn about it and I doubt I'd have a clue what it was about. Indeed, I might even reject it as "stupid". So yeah, thanks J C
    The pleasure is all mine!!!

    ... and BTW, if you do reject Evolution as the specious nonesense that obviously is ... don't just stop there ... but please go on and be Saved as well !!!


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    #3650
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    wrote:
    Originally Posted by J C
    Creation science explores the visible powers of God!!!

    robindch
    Doesn't have much option since it can't study the visible god.
    At least the evidence is visible ... and accessible to science.
    wrote:
    Originally Posted by J C
    Materialistic Evolutionism studies the invisible powers of muck ...
    The evidence for these supposed powers is invisible ... probably because they don't exist ... and it therefore isn't accessible to science!!!:)

    ... so how does this unfounded belief (and only this belief) get to be taught as a compulsory subject in public schools throughout America???

    ... strange days indeed!!

    ... and here is just a thought from the great C. S. Lewis for those who refuse to be Saved:-

    “There are only two kinds of people in the end: those who say to God, "Thy will be done," and those to whom God says, in the end, "Thy will be done." All that are in Hell, choose it. Without that self-choice there could be no Hell (for Humans).” C. S. Lewis


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    #3651
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    wrote:
    Originally Posted by Linoge
    I know you are trying to boost creationism and demean and belittle evoutionary theory by saying this, but do you realise how neanderthal like you sound every time you say it?

    Galvasean
    Lay off the neanderthals! :mad:

    J C
    Galvasean you really are a very sensitive guy ... or were these guys relatives of yours????:eek:

    koth
    they were your relatives too;)
    Very true ... I just thought that the reason why Galvasean was defending the honour of the Neanderthals, was because they were close relatives of his???:)


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    #3652
    AhSureTisGrand
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,327 ✭✭✭AhSureTisGrand


    J C wrote: »
    Very true ... I just thought that the reason why Galvasean was defending the honour of the Neanderthals, was because they were close relatives of his???:)

    Ooh. Burn.


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    #3653
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 51,778 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    J C wrote: »
    Very true ... I just thought that the reason why Galvasean was defending the honour of the Neanderthals, was because they were close relatives of his???:)

    you meet many people that are hundreds of thousands of years old?

    If you can read this, you're too close!



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    #3654
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    koth wrote: »
    you meet many people that are hundreds of thousands of years old?

    The Neanderthals still live ... and walk amongst us!!!
    They are just wonderful, amazing, intelligent Human Beings ... with an (undeserved) image problem!!!


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    #3655
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 51,778 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    J C wrote: »
    The Neanderthals still live ... and walk amongst us!!!
    They are just wonderful, amazing, intelligent Human Beings!!!

    so is that a yes to my question? or are you now sitting on the evolutionary side of the fence?

    If you can read this, you're too close!



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    #3656
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    koth wrote: »
    so is that a yes to my question? or are you now sitting on the evolutionary side of the fence?
    'Neanderthals' are part of the Human Kind AKA Homo sapiens .:)


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    #3657
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 51,778 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    J C wrote: »
    'Neanderthals' are part of the Human Kind AKA Homo sapiens .:)

    Neandertahals were a different species to homo sapiens, and subspecies of Homo sapiens appeared due to inter-breeding between the species.

    Plus they died out about 25,000 years ago. So any neanderthals walking around now would be 25,000+ years old.

    If you can read this, you're too close!



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    #3658
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    koth wrote: »
    Neandertahals were a different species to homo sapiens, and subspecies of Homo sapiens appeared due to inter-breeding between the species.

    Plus they died out about 25,000 years ago. So any neanderthals walking around now would be 25,000+ years old.
    More of the Evolutionist mumbo jumbo ... and date confusion.

    They are all the same species ... and there are 'Neanderthal' types still around today ... and they are just as intelligent and amazing people as everyone else!!!!


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    #3659
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 51,778 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    J C wrote: »
    More of the Evolutionist mumbo jumbo ... and date confusion.

    They are all the same species ... and there are 'Neanderthal' types still around today ... and they are just as intelligent and amazing people as everyone else!!!!

    what do you mean about the date confusion?

    also, if neanderthals (Homo sapiens neanderthalensis or (Homo neanderthalensis) were the same species as modern humans (homo sapiens), guess what? they'd be called the same thing. ;)

    On top of that, you should be able to provide a source to back up your claim that they still walk the earth.

    If you can read this, you're too close!



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    #3660
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    koth wrote: »
    what do you mean about the date confusion?
    Evolutionists are all over the shop when it comes to dating ... they talk in millions/billions ... when it is obviously only thousands of years old!!!:)
    koth wrote: »
    also, if neanderthals (Homo sapiens neanderthalensis or (Homo neanderthalensis) were the same species as modern humans (homo sapiens), guess what? they'd be called the same thing. ;)
    ... paper doesn't refuse ink!!!
    ... Neanderthals interbred with all other Human types ... and they are all descendants of Adam and Eve ... and are therefore are the same species!!!!
    koth wrote: »
    On top of that, you should be able to provide a source to back up your claim that they still walk the earth.
    People with heavy brows and other supposed 'Neanderthal' characteristics live today ... just like people with fair hair and black hair also exist!!!


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    #3661
    himnextdoor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭himnextdoor


    J C wrote: »
    The outcomes are known to God ... but they have the capacity to vary, dependent on the exercise of free will by people.

    Was the 'fall of man' a known outcome?


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