"The Origin of Specious Nonsense"

Dougla2

im getting suspicious that jc is jj although i am very paranoid lol

J C

Dougla2 wrote: »

Evidence?

listen up guys jc has evidence for hell and heaven

God has told us that they exist - therefore, if God exists then they exist.
God exists because only an Omnipotent God could have Intelligently Designed life ... and the omnipotent transcendent God of the Bible 'fits the bill'.

It is ultimately a matter of faith ... but everyone knows that Heaven and Hell exists ... Robin, for example, confirmed that he knows that Hell exists and invited Dades to join him there.

Robin wrote:

Dades -- I'll see you in hell

First beer's on me in the only place in the universe free of True Christians(tm)!

Dougla2

J C wrote: »

God has told us that they exist - therefore, if God exists then they exist.
God exists because only an Omnipotent God could have Intelligently Designed life ... and the omnipotent transcendent God of the Bible 'fits the bill'.

It is ultimately a matter of faith ... but everyone knows that Heaven and Hell exists ... Robin, for example, confirmed that he knows that Hell exists and invited Dades to join him there.

now your just trolling

the bible isnt evidence

also

sponsoredwalk

:eek:

stevejazzx

J C wrote: »

God has told us that they exist - therefore, if God exists then they exist.
God exists because only an Omnipotent God could have Intelligently Designed life ...

It's the circle, the circle of life....

jc wrote:

It is ultimately a matter of faith ... but everyone knows that Heaven and Hell exists ... Robin, for example, confirmed that he knows that Hell exists and invited Dades to join him there.

Not much humour appreciation in christianity is there?

Dougla2

i think he is gone...

edit: no hes not

J C

sponsoredwalk wrote: »

Do you understand the concept of thermodynamics? I'm sure if you think
about the oft-quoted phrase "the second law of thermodynamics" you'll
remember it. That phrase can be taken apart and all of the seperate
words have meaning despite the overall meaning of the phrase as used to
advance creationism. Well the word thermodynamics is important:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6QYDdgP9eg

That video illustrates a means by which molecules self assemble.

If there is one video you should actually watch it is this one.

Remember, this is extremely important, and relates to what you said later:



The video shows a method by which polymers form.
(Remember, a peptide is the bond that links polymers!)

In case your basic bio/chem isn't up to scratch the video illustrates how
monomers form and monomers are the building blocks of polymers.
link



Insulin is simply a specific stable arrangement of amino acids which,
as you've guessed, are made up of monomers and polymers.

I've seen this video somewhere before. A lot of thought and work clearly went into it. It is highly speculative, but the 'killer' is the observed inability of non-intelligently directed systems to produce the specific complex functional information that is inherent in all living processes.

sponsoredwalk

J C wrote: »

I've seen this video somewhere before. A lot of thought and work clearly went into it. It is highly speculative, but the 'killer' is the observed inability of non-intelligently directed systems to produce the specific complex functional information that is inherent in all living processes.

An unsufficiently detailed response that would make John May proud.
If you can't answer the serious claims made in this video then I believe
you're just trolling, you can give the illusion to us all when playing
internetz but theories like that expounded in the video are no joke and
the level of thought put into this theory is far more detailed than the
first year undergrad biology the video shows.

Oh, and since you were so proud of the "Nobel Prize winner" you mentioned
earlier "what more could you want?", the guy who headed this discovery is
also one of those argumentum ad verecundiam Nobel prize winners...

Paparazzo

I wonder of John Mays evidence that he's right is that he's written "FACT" in capitals after all his points?

Turtwig

I clicked on a link in my user CP, I immediately had to click "back" because I'd thought I'd clicked on the BCP megathread by accident; I didn't.:(

robindch

Paparazzo wrote: »

I wonder of John Mays evidence that he's right is that he's written "FACT" in capitals after all his points?

Having spent half my evening at his "lecture", I can confidently say that this is significantly overstating his case.

More later when I've eaten my chicken burger.

Dougla2

robindch wrote: »

Having spent half my evening at his "lecture" this evening, I can confidently say that this is significantly overstating his case.

More later when I've eaten my chicken burger.

hah awesome, you went

J C

Dougla2 wrote: »

now your just trolling

the bible isnt evidence

also

You asked for evidence ... and I provided it.

Dougla2 wrote: »

God is both willing to prevent evil, but not able ... and able to prevent evil, but not willing ... because He has granted His Creatures free will ... and that includes the ability to act badly as well to do good.

There are consequences to doing good or evil ... but we have the God-given free will to choose between good and evil, including everything that will flow from these choices.

God is a God of justice and mercy. He will not force anybody to accept His mercy and be Saved (because that would be removing our free-will) ... but if we don't freely accept His mercy ... He will then administer His Justice to us.

Just imagine being in court, guilty as charged, and the Judge tells you that you won't be convicted and punished if you freely recognise the authority of the judge and ask to be reprieved. That is the deal that is on offer from Jesus Christ. The alternative is to freely not recognise the authority of the judge and be convicted and jailed for eternity.

Dougla2

you gave no evidence whatsoever....

sponsoredwalk

J C wrote: »

but if we don't freely accept His mercy ... He will then administer His justice to us.

North Korea is best Korea

Turtwig

PDN, Fanny, PLEASE!! Take this thread off us!

stevejazzx

sponsoredwalk wrote: »

Do you understand the concept of thermodynamics? I'm sure if you think
about the oft-quoted phrase "the second law of thermodynamics" you'll
remember it. That phrase can be taken apart and all of the seperate
words have meaning despite the overall meaning of the phrase as used to
advance creationism. Well the word thermodynamics is important:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6QYDdgP9eg

That video illustrates a means by which molecules self assemble.

If there is one video you should actually watch it is this one.

Remember, this is extremely important, and relates to what you said later:



The video shows a method by which polymers form.
(Remember, a peptide is the bond that links polymers!)

In case your basic bio/chem isn't up to scratch the video illustrates how
monomers form and monomers are the building blocks of polymers.
link



Insulin is simply a specific stable arrangement of amino acids which,
as you've guessed, are made up of monomers and polymers.

Excellent video.
To think that there is thread is christianty that thousands of replies when this simple vid would suffice.

Turtwig

stevejazzx wrote: »

Excellent video.
To think that there is thread is christianty that thousands of replies when this simple vid would suffice.

Iirc, I posted that video in that thread on at least two separate occasions both times the feedback I got back was that JC liked the music.

stevejazzx

Malty_T wrote: »

Iirc, I posted that video in that thread on at least two separate occasions both times the feedback I got back was that JC liked the music.

Forgive me for not noticing it. It sure is crowded in there!

He liked the music...man he must be the fattest troll ever.

Dougla2

Malty_T wrote: »

Iirc, I posted that video in that thread on at least two separate occasions both times the feedback I got back was that JC liked the music.

pff you wouldnt understand jc's scientist mind, he's definitely a scientist

J C

sponsoredwalk wrote: »

North Korea is best Korea

Please remember He is a God of perfect Justice, perfect mercy and perfect love.

None of these conditions exist on this fallen planet.

God is best God allright.:)

darjeeling

sponsoredwalk wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6QYDdgP9eg

Nice video - some very interesting ideas
Great music too, though a curious choice: '... Götterfunken, Götterfunken'

stevejazzx

darjeeling wrote: »

Nice video - some very interesting ideas
Great music too, though a curious choice: '... Götterfunken, Götterfunken'

Schoner Gotterfunken...means spark of god or something right..
I'd forgotten that..nice catch!

J C

Malty_T wrote: »

Iirc, I posted that video in that thread on at least two separate occasions both times the feedback I got back was that JC liked the music.

I don't remember commenting on the music ... but, now that you mention it ... I agree that it is very good too.

Darjeeling seems to like the music as well.

darjeeling wrote: »

Nice video - some very interesting ideas
Great music too, though a curious choice: '... Götterfunken, Götterfunken'

PDN

Malty_T wrote: »

PDN, Fanny, PLEASE!! Take this thread off us!

This is a mutated thread that evolved by natural selection from the original BC&P thread. If you choose to believe in evolution then you have to learn to accept its consequences. :pac:

darjeeling

stevejazzx wrote: »

Schoner Gotterfunken...means spark of god or something right..
I'd forgotten that..nice catch!

Don't let JC hear!

J C

PDN wrote: »

This is a mutated thread that evolved by natural selection from the original BC&P thread. If you choose to believe in evolution then you have to learn to accept its consequences. :pac:

It has evolved by Intelligent Design!!:)

Turtwig

J C wrote: »

I don't remember commenting on the music ... but, now that you mention it ... I agree that it is very good too.

Darjeeling seems to like the music as well.

Memory Boost.

Now that I've shown an error in your brains memory, perhaps you've also made other similar errors? Say, for example, with regard to your understanding on the scientific theory of evolution? As you do seem to have a lot of misconceptions about it.

stevejazzx

darjeeling wrote: »

Don't let JC hear!

What have I done....:eek:
He's going to link it in his sig now isn't he, JC;s musical proof of creationism.
It is great music though, if nothing else at least the creationists will be demonstrating good cultural taste.

J C

Malty_T wrote: »

Memory Boost.

Now that I've shown an error in your brains memory, perhaps you've also made other similar errors? Say, for example, with regard to your understanding on the scientific theory of evolution? As you do seem to have a lot of misconceptions about it.

Thanks for the memories!!!:)