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"The Origin of Specious Nonsense"

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    #5822
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Wibbs wrote: »
    in theology it seems. Much like I wouldn't ask for an opinion of the nature of god from a doctor of zoology,
    ... that doesn't stop many Athesists who are PhDs in Zoology, like Prof Dawkins, for example, from offering their opinions on God!!!!:D:)

    Wibbs wrote: »
    I'd not be asking a theologian about the finer points of animal phyla.
    ... fair enough ... but we have many conventionally qualified Creation Scientists who can answer your questions!!!
    Wibbs wrote: »
    Plus it seems his mammy was a witch if she was hanging around with Crowley. Talk about confusing for a kid.
    Jesus Christ can Save anybody who repents and believes on Him ... even people whose parents aren't Christians!!!


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    #5823
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    J C wrote: »
    ... that doesn't stop many Athesists who are PhDs in Zoology from offering their opinions on God!!!!:D:)

    God is a fabricated concept. Anyone can be an expert on such a figure. Your point is stupid, and I have become more stupid as a result of reading it.


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    #5824
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    koth wrote: »
    You'll have to re-read my post as I've edited it. It was supposed to read lower not higher.
    I've edited your quote ... my response is the same.


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    #5825
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 51,779 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    J C wrote: »
    I've edited your quote ... my response is the same.

    so how do you gel that it's a world class university with your claim that trinity is a "buy your degree" college?

    If you can read this, you're too close!



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    #5826
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    dlofnep wrote: »
    God is a fabricated concept. Anyone can be an expert on such a figure. Your point is stupid, and I have become more stupid as a result of reading it.
    God is real ... and He Created all things ... visible and invisible.

    Spontaneous Evolution is a fabricated concept ... with no validity whatsoever.
    I used to be an 'expert' in it ... but now I realise that my 'expertise' was an illusion caused by a lack of booze!!!!:eek::)


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    #5827
    liamw
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,780 ✭✭✭liamw


    J C wrote: »
    .. but now I realise that my 'expertise' was an illusion caused by a lack of booze!!!!:eek::)

    Ah so when you were sober and thinking clearly you accepted the fact of evolution. Now you're a drunken mess, your brain is so muddled up you believe in biblical fairytales - starting to make sense.


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    #5828
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    koth wrote: »
    so how do you gel that it's a world class university with your claim that trinity is a "buy your degree" college?
    It shows that the two aren't mutually exclusive ... as our resident 'expert' in bought degrees (Robin) would have us believe!!!!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_of_Arts_(Oxbridge_and_Dublin)
    wrote:
    At Dublin, the MA may be conferred to anyone holding a Dublin BA or other bachelor degree of at least three years' standing. A fee is payable, but is waived in the case of graduates of more than fifty years' standing.


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    #5829
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    J C wrote: »
    God is real ... and He Created all things ... visible and invisible.

    OK :) You believe in your tooth fairy. I'll go for peer reviewed scientific texts. ;)


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    #5830
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    liamw wrote: »
    Ah so when you were sober and thinking clearly you accepted the fact of evolution. Now you're a drunken mess, your brain is so muddled up you believe in biblical fairytales - starting to make sense.
    I used to find that I needed to be drunk ... or between drunken episodes to believe in Spontaneous Evolution!!!

    Nowadays I have put my student past behind me ... and I only have a glass of wine with a meal ...
    I find that this helps me to see through 'cock and bull' stories like Spontaneous Evolution ... and other Materialist Fairytales.:):D


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    #5831
    amacachi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    It's so disappointing to constantly see that there are new posts in this thread.


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    #5832
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    dlofnep wrote: »
    OK :) You believe in your tooth fairy. I'll go for peer reviewed scientific texts. ;)
    ... when it comes to science I go for peer review.

    ... but I don't believe that some spontaneous process that nobody has ever observed ... produced the CFSI for teeth !!!:)
    ... so I don't believe in the Evolution 'Tooth Fairy'!!!


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    #5833
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    J C wrote: »
    ... when it comes to science I do the same.

    ... and I don't believe that some spontaneous process that nobody has ever observed ... produced the CFSI for teeth !!!:)
    ... so I don't believe in the Evolution Tooth Fairy!!!

    You don't know what evolution is.


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    #5834
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 51,779 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    J C wrote: »
    It shows that the two aren't mutually exclusive ... as our resident 'expert' in bought degrees (Robin) would have us believe!!!!

    They actually are. If a person only has to show up and pay for a degree, then it devalues that degree when compared to colleges that require their students to work for the degree.

    For example, Mr.Grady who paid for a degree instead of earning it.

    If you can read this, you're too close!



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    #5835
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    koth wrote: »
    They actually are. If a person only has to show up and pay for a degree, then it devalues that degree when compared to colleges that require their students to work for the degree.
    They obviously aren't ... as Trinity's world class ranking proves!!!

    Their Batchelors Degrees are obviously so good ... that they can be upgraded to an MA after 3 years without further study.


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    #5836
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 51,779 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    kindly don't misrepresent my post, i was obviously referring to the creationist who bought his degree.

    If you can read this, you're too close!



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    #5837
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    koth wrote: »
    kindly don't misrepresent my post, i was obviously referring to the creationist who bought his degree.
    Dr McMurtry earned all three degrees ... the two science degrees are from conventional universities ... and the third DD was from a Thological College.

    He has never claimed otherwise.

    ... and you are the one misrepresenting Dr McMurtry!!!!


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    #5838
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    J C wrote: »
    Dr McMurtry earned all three degrees ... the two science degrees are from conventional universities ... and the third DD was from a Thological College.

    He has never tried to claim otherwise.

    The first two degrees were in forestry.


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    #5839
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    dlofnep wrote: »
    You don't know what evolution is.
    Nobody can know it ... because Spontaneous Evolution doesn't exist!!!!:):D


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    #5840
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    dlofnep wrote: »
    The first two degrees were in forestry.
    ... so what???
    ... every scientist specialises to some degree ... but forestry degrees tend to expose their graduates to a wide range of scientific disciplines.
    ... and we have many conventionally qualified Creation Science specialists as well, who can answer your questions!!!:)


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    #5841
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    J C wrote: »
    Nobody can know it ...

    Sure they can, they can read a book of evolution. It's clear that you have never done this. But that's ok - You're a little bit slow. It's not your fault. Evolution isn't perfect.


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    #5842
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    J C wrote: »
    ... so what???

    It means that his degrees are irrelevant when discussing the topic at hand. I have 2 degrees in the field of computer science, but I don't cite them as qualifications when debating evolutionary biology.

    So who gives a piss what degrees he has? Unless it's in a relevant field, then his views don't carry an authority on the topic.


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    #5843
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    dlofnep wrote: »
    Sure they can, they can read a book of evolution. It's clear that you have never done this. But that's ok - You're a little bit slow. It's not your fault. Evolution isn't perfect.
    They can wear an Evolution t-shirt as well as reading a book on it ... but Spontaneous Evolution still doesn't exist ... in the real world.:)


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    #5844
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    dlofnep wrote: »
    It means that his degrees are irrelevant when discussing the topic at hand. I have 2 degrees in the field of computer science, but I don't cite them as qualifications when debating evolutionary biology.
    ... a BA (in English Fiction) would probably be best ... but 2 degrees in Computer Science, could be a close second for evaluating Spontaneous Evolution!!!:D
    dlofnep wrote: »
    So who gives a piss what degrees he has? Unless it's in a relevant field, then his views don't carry an authority on the topic.
    ... an authority on the topic ... you're starting to sound like a bishop!!!:)


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    #5845
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    J C wrote: »
    ... and they can wear an Evolution t-shirt as well as reading a book on it ... but Spontaneous Evolution still doesn't exist ... in the real world.:)

    Well, I'm not quite sure what your definition of evolution is - But my definition, and the definition from the wider scientific community certainly is a scientific fact, which can be seen through a number of mediums - Fossils, DNA - and even examining bacteria which evolve to become resistant to antibiotics.

    What is your definition of evolution, and then we'll discuss whether it exists or not. Two paragraphs should suffice. If you cannot give me a definition, we will assume that you don't actually know what it is.


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    #5846
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    dlofnep wrote: »
    Well, I'm not quite sure what your definition of evolution is - But my definition, and the definition from the wider scientific community certainly is a scientific fact, which can be seen through a number of mediums - Fossils, DNA - and even examining bacteria which evolve to become resistant to antibiotics.

    What is your definition of evolution, and then we'll discuss whether it exists or not. Two paragraphs should suffice. If you cannot give me a definition, we will assume that you don't actually know what it is.
    Evolution is the myth that organic CFSI can spontaneously arise in sufficient quantity and quality to allow pondkind to develop into Mankind over millions of years.


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    #5847
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    J C wrote: »
    Evolution is the myth that organic CFSI can spontaneously arise in sufficient quantity and quality to allow pondkind to develop into Mankind over millions of years.

    No, I'm afraid that's not what evolution is.


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    #5848
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    dlofnep wrote: »
    No, I'm afraid that's not what evolution is.
    ... good ... so you therefore accept that organic CFSI can't spontaneously arise in sufficient quantity and quality to allow pondkind to develop into Mankind over millions of years.


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    #5849
    dlofnep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    J C wrote: »
    ... good ... so you therefore accept that organic CFSI can't spontaneously arise in sufficient quantity and quality to allow pondkind to develop into Mankind over millions of years.

    No, I accept that you don't know what evolution is.

    What books have you read on the subject? I'm curious to know how you are educating yourself.


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    #5850
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    dlofnep wrote: »
    No, I accept that you don't know what evolution is.
    ... so what do you believe Evolution to be?
    dlofnep wrote: »
    What books have you read on the subject? I'm curious to know how you are educating yourself.
    I have probably forgotten more about evolution that you have ever learned!!!:)


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    #5851
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,416 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    J C wrote: »
    but you have to earn it in State University of New York at Syracuse ... where Dr McMurtry pursued his science studies.
    Mr McDurty studied kids-level science for a while, then spent a few dollars purchasing a diploma-mill-doctorate from that defunct outfit I mentioned, but have already forgotten the name of.

    It would be good if you would not demean the term "doctor" by applying it to some dismal loser.


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