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"The Origin of Specious Nonsense"
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Just fyi -- if I showed up to some event wearing a posing pouch, then I would expect it. In fact, I'd be rather shocked if anybody had failed to notice it and point it out!How would you like it if somebody referred to you as a penis ... or a Dick?
Insulting them? I'm not insulting them at all! As above, I thoroughly admire what they brought to the event and enjoyed it as much as everybody else did! Or, at least, all the men anyway, since I think more than one or two of the other ladies present on the evening appeared quite insulted to see two women who appeared to be treated by the organizer, as well as by everbody else, as exactly what they appeared to be there for -- simple sex objects.... but they shouldn't be demeaned by such insulting remarks.
If Mr May wishes to be treated seriously by anybody -- and I saw nobody treat him seriously all evening long, leading me occasionally to feel rather sorry for the man -- then he would be well advised to avoid delivering speeches while standing in the center of a semicircle formed by a man in a gorilla suit, a man with a clearly fake beard stuck to his chin, and two wonderful ladies with enormous breasts which they waggled around from time to time.
Oh, so you do agree that they were there simply as sex objects?They were there presumably to add a badly-needed glamourous contrast to Darwin and the Gorilla ...
In that case, I think we're in agreement and that's not something that happens all that often!
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... so you think that a woman dressed in a T-shirt and jeans is the equivalent of a man in a posing pouch????Just fyi -- if I showed up to some event wearing a posing pouch, then I would expect it. In fact, I'd be rather shocked if anybody had failed to notice it and point it out!
If a woman turned up at a book launch dressed only in a bra and a G-string... you might have a point ... but these ladies were modestly clothed in T-shirts and jeans!!!!
Thousands of women go to work, shopping, on holdiays, etc dressed like these ladies ... and I don't think that they deserve to be leered at and sexually harassed for doing so.
Robin ... the first rule when you are in corner ... is to stop digging!!!
You obviously don't seem to know that some women work as professional models ... and, like I say, on a sunny day, half of the women in Dublin are dressed like these women. Should they now have to wear an overcoat to stop you leering at them?Insulting them? I'm not insulting them at all! As above, I thoroughly admire what they brought to the event and enjoyed it as much as everybody else did! Or, at least, all the men anyway, since I think more than one or two of the other ladies present on the evening appeared quite insulted to see two women who appeared to be treated by the organizer, as well as by everbody else, as exactly what they appeared to be there for -- simple sex objects.
I wasn't at the meeting ... so I cannot confirm or deny whether these women 'waggled their breasts' ... but I know that they wouldn't do so if they were professional models ... or indeed ordinary women with respect for themselves ... so I frankly don't believe that they did so.If Mr May wishes to be treated seriously by anybody -- and I saw nobody treat him seriously all evening long, leading me occasionally to feel rather sorry for the man -- then he would be well advised to avoid delivering speeches while standing in the center of a semicircle formed by a man in a gorilla suit, a man with a clearly fake beard stuck to his chin, and two wonderful ladies with enormous breasts which they waggled around from time to time.
Equally, your charge that they had 'enormous' breasts is clearly wrong, based on the photo you have posted. All this stuff seems to be in your 'dirty' mind, Robin!!!!
Robin, being glamourous has nothing to do with sex ... and everything to do with empowerment and confidence. That is why Glamour Magazine is one the leading womens magazines in Britain and Ireland.Originally Posted by J C
They were there presumably to add a badly-needed glamourous contrast to Darwin and the Gorilla ...
Robin
Oh, so you do agree that they were there simply as sex objects?
To get some insight into how modern women think perhaps you should read Glamour Magazine ... you might even 'lose' some of your troglodyte views (with apologies to troglodytes) if you did so.
http://www.glamourmagazine.co.uk/
Ooops ... I'm beginning to sound like Mel Gibson in 'What Women Want'!!!!:eek:
All men should try looking at the world from the perspective of women some time ... perhaps I am more sensitive to other people who get a 'raw deal' ... because Creationists find themselves patronised and discriminated against ... just like women were ... and sometimes still are!!!
We are not in agreement on this issue.In that case, I think we're in agreement and that's not something that happens all that often!0 -
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As a woman, Bluewolf, is that all you can contribute to this debate on the right of women to dress in a T-shirt and jeans ... and not be leered at?oh the ironing
Wait hang on. There's pics? :eek::pac:
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... or does the fact that Robin is an Evolutionist ... mean that no matter how insulting his remarks, you tolerate them?
... you are not doing Robin ... or women ... or indeed Evolutionists ... any favours by supporting him by your silence on this issue.0 -
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... two wonderful ladies with enormous breasts which they waggled around from time to time.Unfortunately, none of these other women take time out on a wednesday evening to waggle their shapely breasts during publicity photoshoots taking place during the lauch of a book which purports to be "scientific".
As you weren't at the meeting and, therefore, not in a position to see these excellent ladies playfully wiggle and waggle in their skintight white tops in front of the many cameras that were there, I'll forgive you for implying that I'm a liar.
Robin, if you are as wrong in your assessment of their 'wiggling' behaviour ... as you are about the enormity of their breasts ... then I have a good basis for not believing anything you say about these women ... which isn't the same as calling you a liar (which would imply that you are deliberately telling untruths).
Let's just say, Robin, that your hormones seem to have got the better of you on the night!!!
... but that isn't a valid excuse for leering at these women .. or making overtly mysogenistic remarks about them.0 -
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It's pretty obvious why they had "Charles Darwin" there, as it is the Gorilla.... but that isn't a valid excuse for leering at these women .. or making overtly mysogenistic remarks about them.
I also think it's safe to assume that the girls were hired as eye-candy, unless, JC, you can offer some other suggestion as to why they were there?
And given that their job was to be eye-candy, I'd imagine they would be rather amused to find someone defending their virtue on the Internet.
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Gender Balance perhaps?It's pretty obvious why they had "Charles Darwin" there, as it is the Gorilla.
I also think it's safe to assume that the girls were hired as eye-candy, unless, JC, you can offer some other suggestion as to why they were there?
And given that their job was to be eye-candy, I'd imagine they would be rather amused to find someone defending their virtue on the Internet.
Why do you dismiss these glamourous competent women as 'eye candy'?
They were doing a job, Dades ... and doing it very well ... and professionally.
A T-shirt and a pair of jeans are ordinary street clothes (for both men and women) ... for the past forty years!!!
What did you want them to turn up in? ... a dirty wet raincoat ... like Robin seems to have metaphorically turned up in???:eek:0 -
We both know that's rubbish so lets be adult here.Gender Balance perhaps?
Because that's exactly what they were paid to be there for. Unless you can come up with another reason a little less spurious than the above.Why do you dismiss these glamourous competent women as 'eye candy'?
I agree.They were doing a job, Dades ... and doing it very well ... and professionally. 0 -
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A T-shirt and a pair of jeans are ordinary street clothes (for both men and women) ... for the past forty years!!!We both know that's rubbish so lets be adult here.
Because that's exactly what they were paid to be there for. Unless you can come up with another reason a little less spurious than the above.
I agree.
What did you want these women to turn up in?
The idea was presumably to advertise the book ... with slogans on their T-Shirts ... so are you saying that evey soccer player is some kind of 'eye candy' for wearing a shirt advertising some commercial organisation?
This is ordinary modern PR and marketing in action guys ... what rock have you all been hiding under?
Do you leer at women (and men) working in your local supermarket if they happen to be wearing a t-shirt with a slogan?0 -
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