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Desktop for home production

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  • 14-09-2010 9:34am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 578 ✭✭✭


    My friend is setting up a home studio for production with Ableton in his house. His budget is about €1000 for a desktop including two monitors.

    Any recommendations for a desktop pc which would be best optimized for Ableton at that price? ;)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭Neurojazz


    inode wrote: »
    My friend is setting up a home studio for production with Ableton in his house. His budget is about €1000 for a desktop including two monitors.

    Any recommendations for a desktop pc which would be best optimized for Ableton at that price? ;)

    Speak to Paul Moss at scan.co.uk - they deliver to Ireland, will spec it for music production and exact needs.

    I've had a couple of machines from there and the build quality is second to none and if you get problems they collect parts/computer at no cost to yourself and fix it quick (or send replacements)

    Really nice service.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,672 ✭✭✭seannash


    im gonna state the obvious and say an imac,he should be able to get a really nice screen with it.

    i think there 20inch so a dual screen might not be necessary


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 578 ✭✭✭inode


    Neurojazz wrote: »
    Speak to Paul Moss at scan.co.uk - they deliver to Ireland, will spec it for music production and exact needs.

    I've had a couple of machines from there and the build quality is second to none and if you get problems they collect parts/computer at no cost to yourself and fix it quick (or send replacements)

    Really nice service.

    Thats brilliant. thanks :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,723 ✭✭✭empirix


    a grand is not enough, i take it you mean computer monitors not audio yeah? personally i would buy a big imac, but for convenience now i use a macbook pro and have a 24 inch monitor i use with it, pricey though!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭Neurojazz


    empirix wrote: »
    a grand is not enough, i take it you mean computer monitors not audio yeah? personally i would buy a big imac, but for convenience now i use a macbook pro and have a 24 inch monitor i use with it, pricey though!

    Half the power for double the cost!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭lazyatom


    Neurojazz wrote: »
    Half the power for double the cost!

    sad but true.

    i'm a mac addict coming from a design background, but lately have been thinking that if i ever got the chance to get into audio production seriously, then the only way to go would be to invest in a top notch PC, maxed for audio production. if only to avail the sheer wealth of mental PC VSTs that are out there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,672 ✭✭✭seannash


    hackintosh ftw

    also any decent vst has got a mac version.very few worthwhile plug ins are strictly pc


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭Neurojazz


    I just costed up an evil pc running at 55ghtz and 48gig of memory ;) - a snip at 7400 quid ;)

    55ghtz!

    /drool


  • Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭lazyatom


    Neurojazz wrote: »
    55ghtz and 48gig of memory

    wooooooooooooah....

    whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?

    :eek:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭krd


    Neurojazz wrote: »
    I just costed up an evil pc running at 55ghtz and 48gig of memory ;) - a snip at 7400 quid ;)

    55ghtz!

    /drool

    Are you serious?

    That sounds like the machines that can get built for scientific research.

    The downside is windows may not really be able to handle all that power - you may only get a little bit more than you'd get with a fully loaded standard PC.

    Then there's bottle necks and stuff to think of.

    I'd love it, if someone like Roland took a laptop PC or desktop and created a dedicated Music operating system.

    It's not so much how much power the machine has at it's disposal - it's really down to how it's utilised.

    Lots of purpose built digital electronic equipment made more than ten years ago - with clock times in around 1 Mega Hertz - which makes them a thousand times slower than the cheapest laptop - in some ways, can still kick the sh1t out of any daw. Unfortunately, the stuff lacks a lot of what a DAW can do - but the those guys were able to create processor heavy stuff to run on really slow chips.

    Roland are thinking of making a new groove box/DAW - they may not. But based on chips now and what they could potentially do, it could be real killer.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭Neurojazz


    krd wrote: »
    Are you serious?

    That sounds like the machines that can get built for scientific research.

    The downside is windows may not really be able to handle all that power - you may only get a little bit more than you'd get with a fully loaded standard PC.

    Then there's bottle necks and stuff to think of.

    I'd love it, if someone like Roland took a laptop PC or desktop and created a dedicated Music operating system.

    It's not so much how much power the machine has at it's disposal - it's really down to how it's utilised.

    Lots of purpose built digital electronic equipment made more than ten years ago - with clock times in around 1 Mega Hertz - which makes them a thousand times slower than the cheapest laptop - in some ways, can still kick the sh1t out of any daw. Unfortunately, the stuff lacks a lot of what a DAW can do - but the those guys were able to create processor heavy stuff to run on really slow chips.

    Roland are thinking of making a new groove box/DAW - they may not. But based on chips now and what they could potentially do, it could be real killer.

    Nah, dedicated music pc this is - the mobo and cpus designed to work with these speeds and DAWS can addressed multiple cores no problem :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭krd


    Neurojazz wrote: »
    Nah, dedicated music pc this is - the mobo and cpus designed to work with these speeds and DAWS can addressed multiple cores no problem :)

    I would be very happy, if I had an ancient PC, running an ancient DAW that could handle SYSEX - so I could jam with my MC 505 and make tracks that way.

    There's plenty I'd like to do with my laptop - but can't because of it's restrictions. But I'm learning a huge amount by working against it's limitations.

    Eventually I'll get the setup I want - but for the minute, I don't have what I want.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭Neurojazz


    krd wrote: »
    I would be very happy, if I had an ancient PC, running an ancient DAW that could handle SYSEX - so I could jam with my MC 505 and make tracks that way.

    There's plenty I'd like to do with my laptop - but can't because of it's restrictions. But I'm learning a huge amount by working against it's limitations.

    Eventually I'll get the setup I want - but for the minute, I don't have what I want.

    Yeah that's the grind - and when you get a beast you end up using it to the max until Ableton freaks out :), it's good to learn how to get a big sound with limited facilities :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,655 ✭✭✭i57dwun4yb1pt8


    win xp 32 can only see 4 gig of ram
    so you need win 7 or 64 bit xp to go super ram

    i build all my pcs form SCAN uk parts - great shop
    and my machine is a fcuking animal , even if its on 3 year old technology now
    ( quad 9500 cpu , 4 gig ram , 4 by 500 gig drives plus one 80 gig OS drive )

    it laffs in the face of vsts


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭Neurojazz


    lol got specs wrong... the cpu clocks in at... 79.92ghtz ;) *cries*


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,609 ✭✭✭dasdog


    That's nuts - virtual host server CPU speed.

    Is your DAW 64-bit to make use of all that RAM? I'm restricted to run mine as 32-bit as the slave I'm using (f*king re-wire) is 32-bit only and won't see 64-bit Cubase.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭Neurojazz


    dasdog wrote: »
    That's nuts - virtual host server CPU speed.

    Is your DAW 64-bit to make use of all that RAM? I'm restricted to run mine as 32-bit as the slave I'm using (f*king re-wire) is 32-bit only and won't see 64-bit Cubase.

    I did try cubase in 64bit... sort of worked but gave up after problems with plugins - abelton seems to love it and only had a few plugins that were killed in the move to 64bit - waves also suffered, can't really have to many instances of it running in 64 bit and i refuse to get involved with their stupid licensing.


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