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Why is AH so misogynistic?
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It's hardly like that's the only thread that's ever happened in. Any thread (in AH) at all ever with the mention of a woman and/or women inevitably have this kind of crap at one stage or another.
Mods are generally pretty good at cracking down on homophobia, racism, bigotry in general. Any time I've seen an offensive attack on any of them it gets removed in fairly short order and the offender quickly disciplined in one way or another. Yet nearly every week there's something degrading women; how awful Irish women are, how we're all gold diggers, how we're all superficial, how we never like nice guys, how we're all cheaters and manipulators and whores and prickteases. It's so constant and so pervasive and very hard to ignore.
I don't get it. Why is it allowed when there's so many arbitrary things disallowed? You can't be offensive about celebrities who voluntarily put themselves in the public eye, but yet stuff like this is allowed? Can a mod explain it to me? Genuinely asking, not trying to be snarky.
In one sense you are dead right.
At this rate boards.ie might as well close down AH.
I know loads of lovely people who are respectful to women and gays and immigrants but they still laugh at jokes that encompass those listed people.
I'd never see anyone who was gay, not white, or a woman done wrong for just being, I'd stand up for them with my last breath but I still find stuff funny.
It is quite possibly that it is something that can't be explained.0 -
I don't get it. Why is it allowed when there's so many arbitrary things disallowed? You can't be offensive about celebrities who voluntarily put themselves in the public eye, but yet stuff like this is allowed? Can a mod explain it to me? Genuinely asking, not trying to be snarky.
Generally the community itself decides what is acceptable, as Mods, we just respond to the wishes of the users. Have you reported many sexist posts that you found to be offensive? Were they acted on?
This topic is very interesting and if it is a big problem we will fix it.0 -
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See, there's the problem.cherub rock wrote: »100% agree with you Liah. I started a tLL thread based on things that were being said over a point you made about girl gamers/ posters not being taken seriously because some girls attention seek & flirt in AH and lads all just saying you were jealous and tore your posts apart. Their attitude made me so bloody cross (that was the point I'm sure)
I wouldn't mind but the gentlemen that post in tLL are given utmost respect and are welcomed.I've never noticed any man bashing threads over there either but I'd say they'd be nipped in the bud quick smart.
My fiance slags me: "If you don't like it don't read it" or "oooh something is wrong on the internets. Serious business. Lulz"... That's annoying because these backwards and offensive sentiments are obviously there in reality. Wtf is wrong with society?
Also, I like taking things out of context.It's hardly like that's the only thread that's ever happened in. Any thread (in AH) at all ever with the mention of a woman and/or women inevitably has this kind of crap at one stage or another.
Mods are generally pretty good at cracking down on homophobia, racism, bigotry in general. Any time I've seen an offensive attack on any of them it gets removed in fairly short order and the offender quickly disciplined in one way or another. Yet nearly every week there's something degrading women; how awful Irish women are, how we're all gold diggers, how we're all superficial, how we never like nice guys, how we're all cheaters and manipulators and whores and prickteases. It's so constant and so pervasive and very hard to ignore.
I don't get it. Why is it allowed when there's so many arbitrary things disallowed? You can't be offensive about celebrities who voluntarily put themselves in the public eye, but yet stuff like this is allowed? Can a mod explain it to me? Genuinely asking, not trying to be snarky.
Ok. I'm going to be serious here.
Ok, I'm drunk, so I can't be completely serious. I'll be mostly serious at first and then be mysoginistic.
First, aren't you Canadian, and not Irish?
Then, you're really good looking and an extremely nice person. It was a pleasure to meet you (I think about 2 years ago), and I'd love to see you at another beers at some stage.
Hey. I went from serious to honest to mysoginistic to creepy. Yay.0 -
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See, there's the problem.
Also, I like taking things out of context.
Ok. I'm going to be serious here.
Ok, I'm drunk, so I can't be completely serious. I'll be mostly serious at first and then be mysoginistic.
First, aren't you Canadian, and not Irish?
Then, you're really good looking and an extremely nice person. It was a pleasure to meet you (I think about 2 years ago), and I'd love to see you at another beers at some stage.
Hey. I went from serious to honest to mysoginistic to creepy. Yay.
The creepiest bit was I never made it to a beers :eek: :P
You're probably talking about.. oh crap, I can't believe I forgot her username. But she seems lovely from her posts, even if I can't think of her name 0 -
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I found bits of that thread upsetting and shocking too - not so much the comments themselves, but the fact such an attitude is seemingly quite widespread.It's actually really upsetting, especially considering this stuff doesn't get moderated even though it's blatantly offensive (reporter thread) towards the women posting.
Yep. No connection whatsoever with the usual generic insults, but they're thrown out anyway. Considering the response you'll get is going to be "man-hater", "ugly", "fat", "feminazi", "man-hater", "bitter", "man-hater" you might as well post "In my opinion, Japan's role in WWII was somewhat overlooked".It's infuriating to construct a good, solid argument that's obviously had thought put into it and does make sense and is still respectful just to be met with cries of "jealous manhating feminazi bs" and a re-statement of their argument which I already covered that they obviously hadn't bothered reading just because I'm a girl. It's frustrating when you explain everything so clearly, over and over and over again, answer the exact same "questions" the exact same way and even agree with them just to be treated like ****. Generally followed with some retarded remark about PMS or ugliness.
It's horrible.It shocks me how utterly bitter some men are towards women and it shocks me more that while many may not feel the same way, NOBODY does anything about it, and when the females try to, it just ends up with them getting slagged even if they're making solid, honest, respectful points.
Heh, if this thread was started by a woman, guaranteed there'd be the "ugly, jealous man-hater" gem - and not done in humour ("Go make a sandwich" is generally just messing around and good-natured), done with real hatred and venom.cherub rock wrote: »I presumed you were male. That's why I was interested in the thread responses. If a woman posted it she'd have been told to make a sandwich or something.
It took a serious turn yes, but plenty of threads in AH are serious. And I know you think we're being angsty and po-faced - not in my case anyway though. It was the nasty, humour-lacking insults that caused me to get serious. Any good-natured, tongue-in-cheek jokes and I'd have just gone along with them.IMMA CHARGIN MAH LAZER wrote: »Take a step back for a moment. Look where the thread was posted, Look at how it was written. It was never meant to be serious.0 -
Again, I'm differentiating between what's obviously meant in good humour and what's obviously got a very, very nasty underbelly. We can tell the difference and I'd say the majority of women on AH (from what I've seen from thanked posts and my own actions anyway) have had a laugh at a sexist joke many a time given the right context.
A lot of the stuff on here definitely has a really aggressive nasty side and it's pretty disconcerting. I try to give most people the benefit of the doubt, but christ almighty those guys make it so damn hard to.
That nasty underbelly etc you speak of is designed to get the best out of yourself and Dudess types as far as I can see.
Tormenting, as I said originally. I really doubt those posters are like that and just posting sh1te on AH.
Internet. Serious business.
Though it is getting rather serious these days 0 -
I have to say I've never experienced this at all.
I've seen the odd "kitchen" remark in threads but never directed at posters, and usually people just thank the poster and the thread moves on. I've certainly never had it directed at me.
Although in fairness that could be because the majority of users seem to think I'm a guy.
Dare I say it, some of you may be a tad over sensitive?
I would assume you wouldn't've had much of it because, as you said, I think a lot of people think you're a dude. Plus your comments are generally erring on the side of humour so it would probably be more in line with their way of thinking, even if you don't actually mean your comments as anything more than a laugh. Do you often bother reading threads that might be construed as touchy..?
Hah, and sorry if it seems like I stalk you, you just post in a lot of places I post 0 -
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And I know you think we're being angsty and po-faced - not in my case anyway though. It was the nasty, humour-lacking insults that caused me to get serious. Any good-natured, tongue-in-cheek jokes and I'd have just gone along with them.
You can't help it. It is in you to read certain stuff a certain way. Your post history shows that.
Size 13's are fat is a good one.
IBTD!!0 -
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IMMA CHARGIN MAH LAZER wrote: »That nasty underbelly etc you speak of is designed to get the best out of yourself and Dudess types as far as I can see.
Tormenting, as I said originally. I really doubt those posters are like that and just posting sh1te on AH.
Internet. Serious business.
Though it is getting rather serious these days
But why should tormenting women be okay? You'd be caught out by a mod in about two seconds if you repeatedly and viciously tormented someone who was LGBT, black, Christian, apparently celebs, etc. Yet it's okay to constantly troll women who are trying to have a discussion about something that relates directly to them?
If the men don't want to have a real discussion on it then they can just not respond or make their indirect jokes, doesn't give them any right to be bitter and offensive and cutting in an attack against specific females who may be posting.0 -
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So do I. Those are not whom I'm referring to whatsoever. It's the take I'd have on things myself.
Maybe we are in your opinion, which is cool. In my opinion: when you've got insults directed at you for having the audacity as a woman to say something that's not in keeping with macho, laddish sentiment (tongue out of cheek): no. When some guys say most women are gold-diggers: no. When some guys feel something such as the "He drives, she dies" ad (an ad I find reprehensible btw) needs to be blamed on women: no.
You're just the AH vessel that keeps on giving.
I'd
you but me mot might see it and kill me! Cos' you lot are like that. 0
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