N25/N30 - New Ross Bypass [open to traffic]

Andrew33

Leo Demidov wrote: »

I'm pretty sure the engineer said in the Engineering Channel documentary that they hadn't come across this problem before. If its a common problem, surely they could have planned and mitigated against it and avoided the bumps. I'm not knocking the overall project but it is a little rough around the edges.

A lot of what was said in that documentary was over dramatised.
I’m surprised Doug MaClure didn’t do the narration.
Two cable suspended spans almost 1/2 km long each meeting in the middle were never going to be at the same level.

josip

prunudo wrote: »

Is it noticeable with the naked eye or are the photos taken with zoomed lenses making it look worse than it really is.

Worse More noticeable in reality than in the photos.

Thankfully, from a side-on perspective it's not noticeable

Leo Demidov

josip wrote: »

Worse More noticeable in reality than in the photos.

Thankfully, from a side-on perspective it's not noticeable

Sponsored by Tayto Park.

Leo Demidov

Andrew33 wrote: »

A lot of what was said in that documentary was over dramatised.
I’m surprised Doug MaClure didn’t do the narration.
Two cable suspended spans almost 1/2 km long each meeting in the middle were never going to be at the same level.

Total bridge length is 887 m, longest span is 230 m so 2 cable suspended spans almost 115 metres long each would be a more accurate representation of the facts.

Victor

Andrew33 wrote: »

Two cable suspended spans almost 1/2 km long each meeting in the middle were never going to be at the same level.

The central section of the Channel Tunnel is about 40km long and they got the tunnels within about 50mm of each other.

In the 6th century BC the Tunnel of Eupalinos (1,036 metres) was built to within milimetres of each other vertically.

It both of these examples, note that be two bores of each tunnel couldn't see each other.

Alun

It's on TomTom mydrive now ...

https://mydrive.tomtom.com/en_ie/#mode=viewport+viewport=52.36874,-6.95517,12.14,0,-0+ver=3

and on Here maps

https://wego.here.com/?map=52.38331,-6.91879,13,normal

mackerski

Alun wrote: »

It's on TomTom mydrive now ...

https://mydrive.tomtom.com/en_ie/#mode=viewport+viewport=52.36874,-6.95517,12.14,0,-0+ver=3

and on Here maps

https://wego.here.com/?map=52.38331,-6.91879,13,normal

Looks like Here didn’t bother to renumber the old roads. Makes me a sad craft-mapper.

kneemos

Andrew33 wrote: »

A lot of what was said in that documentary was over dramatised.
I’m surprised Doug MaClure didn’t do the narration.
Two cable suspended spans almost 1/2 km long each meeting in the middle were never going to be at the same level.

Chapter one of bridge building I'd have thought.

Andrew33

Leo Demidov wrote: »

Total bridge length is 887 m, longest span is 230 m so 2 cable suspended spans almost 115 metres long each would be a more accurate representation of the facts.

Thanks pedantic Pete. My point stands.
Probably more of an issue if they didn’t align laterally.

alta stare

Just had a look at my map tracker and the old route from Waterford City to Wexford town via New Ross took me 1hr 25 mins.

With the route now over the new bridge it took 52 mins. That is a welcome difference. The morning times have been around 45mins.

vicwatson

prunudo wrote: »

Is it noticeable with the naked eye or are the photos taken with zoomed lenses making it look worse than it really is.

It’s completely noticeable, as you enter the bridge from Wexford on the deck it’s very noticeable

vicwatson

Leo Demidov wrote: »

Total bridge length is 887 m, longest span is 230 m so 2 cable suspended spans almost 115 metres long each would be a more accurate representation of the facts.

And I’d be asking why they didn’t meet precisely

Leo Demidov

Andrew33 wrote:

Thanks pedantic Pete. My point stands. Probably more of an issue if they didn’t align laterally.

No need to get personal. You overstated the spans to exaggerate a point. The documentary may have been over dramatised but the engineer said what he said, such a rudimentary repair seems unfortunate on a big budget well planned project. I'm sure it won't affect the stability or longevity of the bridge but it does take from a fantastic project.

spacetweek

alta stare wrote: »

Just had a look at my map tracker and the old route from Waterford City to Wexford town via New Ross took me 1hr 25 mins.

With the route now over the new bridge it took 52 mins. That is a welcome difference. The morning times have been around 45mins.

How on earth did it ever take 1h 25min to go such a short distance? Only 60 km.

Andrew33

Leo Demidov wrote: »

No need to get personal. You overstated the spans to exaggerate a point. The documentary may have been over dramatised but the engineer said what he said, such a rudimentary repair seems unfortunate on a big budget well planned project. I'm sure it won't affect the stability or longevity of the bridge but it does take from a fantastic project.

Ah would you stop, that stupid documentary made it look like the guys nipped down to Dunphys and got a few steel bars to help them line up the two sides.
Look at a few other documentarys made in a similar vein by the same people.
There’s always some near disaster averted by the quick thinking engineers.
Total sensationalist bull****.

alta stare

spacetweek wrote: »

How on earth did it ever take 1h 25min to go such a short distance? Only 60 km.

Traffic in Waterford City then traffic build up coming into New Ross from the Waterford side hence why a bridge was badly needed. The traffic would be backed up quite a bit. Then when you would finally get through New Ross the traffic would still be slow moving given the volume of vehicles which got caught up in the back up.

JohnC.

I only saw the New Ross nightmare traffic once myself, last summer. Thankfully I was going the opposite direction so I didn't have to experience it, just see it. But it was backed up for about 2km from the bridge, with more joining the queue all the time.

I've worked with plenty who have had to commute through that though. So they're happy.

Hibernicis

I used to travel Cork city to Wexford Town on a regular basis in the years before the Waterford Bypass and the Youghal Bypass opened. It was not unusual to allow three and a half hours for the journey, and a bit more if hitting Youghal, Waterford or New Ross at rush hour. Based on recent experiences, I think this will be somewhere close to two hours now. Which is a pretty decent improvement. And just as important, the journey time will be far more predictable. Only real issues remaining are Castlemartyr and Killeagh.

marno21

Hibernicis wrote: »

I used to travel Cork city to Wexford Town on a regular basis in the years before the Waterford Bypass and the Youghal Bypass opened. It was not unusual to allow three and a half hours for the journey, and a bit more if hitting Youghal, Waterford or New Ross at rush hour. Based on recent experiences, I think this will be somewhere close to two hours now. Which is a pretty decent improvement. And just as important, the journey time will be far more predictable. Only real issues remaining are Castlemartyr and Killeagh.

Dungarvan is a problem too

I did the Maldron Hotel Roundabout to Wilton exit in 2h10 leaving Wexford at 3pm last Friday, with just a brief stop at Larkin’s Cross.

Hibernicis

marno21 wrote: »

Dungarvan is a problem too

It is but an order of magnitude or two below the others I mentioned. The existing "inner" bypass was well ahead of its time and eliminated N25 traffic from the square, the causeway etc. which were a dreadful bottleneck. And the outer stretch eliminated the crazy hairpins. If there were endless funds available the Dungarvan outer bypass would certainly merit attention, but it should take its place along with a lot of other sub-standard sections of the Waterford-Cork leg of the N25. (Lemybrien, Youghal Bridge, Garranbane to the Pike etc.). Alas, it is probably academic and the likelihood now is that the Westend leg of the N25 (Waterford to Cork) will see no further significant improvements whereas the Eastern leg will be brought to motorway standard, to interconnect with the M24 to Limerick and the M24/M8 to Cork.

prunudo

Andrew33 wrote: »

Ah would you stop, that stupid documentary made it look like the guys nipped down to Dunphys and got a few steel bars to help them line up the two sides.
Look at a few other documentarys made in a similar vein by the same people.
There’s always some near disaster averted by the quick thinking engineers.
Total sensationalist bull****.

Its the way of tv and those Discovery programmes, make mundane every day jobs (for the people that do them) look way more exciting and dramatic than then they really are.

CrabRevolution

prunudo wrote: »

Its the way of tv and those Discovery programmes, make mundane every day jobs (for the people that do them) look way more exciting and dramatic than then they really are.

It's like any episode I've ever seen of Room to Improve. There has to be a drama or conflict of some sort, and often it just looks very contrived and not believable.

Cantona's Collars

prunudo wrote: »

Its the way of tv and those Discovery programmes, make mundane every day jobs (for the people that do them) look way more exciting and dramatic than then they really are.

Dramatic music as lads lay re-bar "the concrete is delayed,this could have massive implications".
2 minutes later the trucks roll onto site.
Another crisis, "the local deli has run out of chicken fillet rolls".

Harry Palmr

Went on it today from Waterford side as far as the N25 intersection and back as far as Slieverue. Great road, as mentioned the Wexford side is the one to "see" it from and with that in mind please do not ease off the loud pedal to admire the view as someone in front of me - there's a layby for that! That huge zone on barrier side of the eastbound lanes just after the bridge looks a bit odd - you could use as a car park it's so wide!

m17

The barrow crossing 04/02/20 (pic fb)

m17

The barrow crossing 03/02/20

A massive thanks to insta_mavic for all your unreal drone work over the last 3 and half years

m17

The new Ross bypass 01/02/20

fricatus

^^^ 5:35 is the money shot!

m17

The barrow crossing 29/01/20

Say my name

With potential strong winds forecast. I wonder if there's a procedure of closing off the bridge?
Obviously there's no gates on the roundabouts either side of the bridge. So I presume it's council workers with trucks just pulled across the road?